Why are younger men so right wing?

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Anonymous wrote:My beyond left-wing young adult DD told me, in secret, that she is appalled by parents having their young kids change gender. I was glad she expressed her opinion, but why does she have to hide it from her friends?
Do you all not agree that it is messed up to allow underage children to change gender?

The gender change thing really affects young Women the most. It’s unsafe for men to be allowed in women’s spaces period

Yes, by far the biggest threat to the safety of young women are trans people. Oh, wait, that might be a little off.

Statistically a young woman is vastly more likely to be shot to death in their k12 classroom or on their college campus than to be sexually assaulted by a transwoman. But we are told "too bad, there's nothing that can be done about those shootings, maybe you just need to start lugging a Glock around in the asscrack of your leggings, young lady."

What a crazy world the GOP has put us in.

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17. Trump is funny (he is one of the great American comics in fact), and

18. Trump acts like a winner. Americans like this, and his response to the failed assassination attempt drove this point home.

Do you really think he’s funny? This is a serious question. Like his “Merry Christmas to all the losers” thing is mildly amusing but it’s his only bit as far as I can see.

I think he is hilarious. His sense of comedic timing is incredible.

Agree to disagree. His kind of dickish humor is nothing special, there are probably 10 kids in every high school in America that do it as well as Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:The ‘trans policies’ you are bleating about were in place when Trump was president before. Not a Biden thing, no matter how much the GOP wants to make Fetch happen.

What exactly is a "trans policy" anyway? I treat them the same as I do any other human being and they tend to reciprocate. What more is needed in official policy than that.

As do I.

The policies we are referring to add a nonsensical protected category of “gender identity “ which negates sex based rights for women . Hope that helps.

It didn't negate anything. That's not how anti-discrimination laws work.

Of course it did. You can’t discriminate (aka keep women’s sports limited to women) if a man’s gender identity tells him that he feels like a woman.
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The Biden administration ignited controversy when it finalized the new rules last year. The regulation expanded Title IX, a 1972 law forbidding discrimination based on sex in education, to also prevent discrimination based on gender identity or sexual orientation
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Nothing in the 2024 Title IX rule eliminates sex‑separated sports. The athletics regulations are separate, still being litigated, and schools can still set eligibility rules based on competitive fairness. The idea that adding gender identity as a protected class ‘negates’ sex‑based rights misunderstands how civil‑rights law works; protected classes coexist, they don’t cancel each other out.

If the concern is competitive advantage or scholarships, that’s a policy question for sports‑specific rules, not a reason to block protections against harassment or exclusion in classrooms, dorms, or basic participation. And the numbers matter: trans women in competitive women’s sports are statistically microscopic: a mere fraction of a fraction of a percent of athletes, and accordingly, scholarship displacement is also a statistically negligible number, approximately 0.01% of all NCAA athletes. It makes no sense to dismantle broad anti‑discrimination protections just because of 0.01% edge‑case hypotheticals. And before you say "one is too many," go look at what your political allies have done (or more accurately not done) about reforming gun laws given mass shooting after mass shooting after mass shooting. You don't get to cut to the head of the line with trans legislation given far more harmful things impacting society.

Also the locker‑room panic over trans people is a red herring. Indecent exposure, harassment, and voyeurism are already illegal regardless of gender identity. Title IX doesn’t override criminal law or school conduct codes. The rule simply says you can’t deny someone equal access solely for being transgender. That’s it. Everything else: sports fairness, safety, discipline is and has always been governed by existing, separate rules.

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The rule simply says you can’t deny someone equal access solely for being transgender.
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Which is why under previous administration-men started to access women spaces and women’s sport.

Stop being disingenuous.

Fortunately now there are cases before the Supreme Court which will determine whether states may enforce laws ensuring that women’s and girls’ sports remain female-only, or whether male athletes who identify as transgender must be permitted to compete on female teams.

The changes would have made it illegal for a girl to ask to room in a college dorm with another real girl. Any boy could say they identify as preferring to room with a female and the girls would either have to accept it, or in the case of campuses that require living in dorms, drop out.

Stop spreading falsehoods, propaganda and obvious disinformation. There is NO evidence in the rule text or in any legal analysis that the 2024 Title IX update required colleges to assign transgender students as dorm roommates against anyone’s wishes. The rule dealt with discrimination and harassment, not roommate matching. And regardless of this, the entire rule has since been struck down nationwide. Your hysterical "forced dorm roommate" claim is not and was not ever supported by the facts.

Colleges, and their dorms, are subject to these rules. It's not misinformation at all.

But question- do you agree this would be a bad thing? Because it sounds like you might be acknowledging that some spaces should be kept for biological women only.

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Anonymous wrote:My beyond left-wing young adult DD told me, in secret, that she is appalled by parents having their young kids change gender. I was glad she expressed her opinion, but why does she have to hide it from her friends?
Do you all not agree that it is messed up to allow underage children to change gender?

The gender change thing really affects young Women the most. It’s unsafe for men to be allowed in women’s spaces period

Yes, by far the biggest threat to the safety of young women are trans people. Oh, wait, that might be a little off.

Statistically a young woman is vastly more likely to be shot to death in their k12 classroom or on their college campus than to be sexually assaulted by a transwoman. But we are told "too bad, there's nothing that can be done about those shootings, maybe you just need to start lugging a Glock around in the asscrack of your leggings, young lady."

What a crazy world the GOP has put us in.

This dismissive approach towards women's rights isn't helping your case.

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Anonymous wrote:My beyond left-wing young adult DD told me, in secret, that she is appalled by parents having their young kids change gender. I was glad she expressed her opinion, but why does she have to hide it from her friends?
Do you all not agree that it is messed up to allow underage children to change gender?

The gender change thing really affects young Women the most. It’s unsafe for men to be allowed in women’s spaces period

Yes, by far the biggest threat to the safety of young women are trans people. Oh, wait, that might be a little off.

Statistically a young woman is vastly more likely to be shot to death in their k12 classroom or on their college campus than to be sexually assaulted by a transwoman. But we are told "too bad, there's nothing that can be done about those shootings, maybe you just need to start lugging a Glock around in the asscrack of your leggings, young lady."

What a crazy world the GOP has put us in.

This dismissive approach towards women's rights isn't helping your case.

You are correct that trans panic is still gripping some people. As they find themselves mid-50s, laid off, facing staggering health care premiums, things might shift. They seem to be shifting for my MAGA BIL who is currently in that spot.

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Anonymous wrote:My beyond left-wing young adult DD told me, in secret, that she is appalled by parents having their young kids change gender. I was glad she expressed her opinion, but why does she have to hide it from her friends?
Do you all not agree that it is messed up to allow underage children to change gender?

The gender change thing really affects young Women the most. It’s unsafe for men to be allowed in women’s spaces period

Yes, by far the biggest threat to the safety of young women are trans people. Oh, wait, that might be a little off.

Why are you minimizing women's concern about this?

Why are you grossly overhyping the concern? Is denying base rate a bug or a feature for you? Your argument seems to depend on it. That's not minimization of concern, it's pointing out argumentation fallacy.

A young woman has a statistically MUCH higher chance of dying from a reaction to a bee sting than of being sexually assaulted by a trans woman or losing a scholarship to a trans woman. Of being killed by a lightning strike. Of being killed by a fridge or piece of furniture falling on them. Being shot in a mass shooting. Being hit by a car. And so on.

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Anonymous wrote:My beyond left-wing young adult DD told me, in secret, that she is appalled by parents having their young kids change gender. I was glad she expressed her opinion, but why does she have to hide it from her friends?
Do you all not agree that it is messed up to allow underage children to change gender?

The gender change thing really affects young Women the most. It’s unsafe for men to be allowed in women’s spaces period

Yes, by far the biggest threat to the safety of young women are trans people. Oh, wait, that might be a little off.

Statistically a young woman is vastly more likely to be shot to death in their k12 classroom or on their college campus than to be sexually assaulted by a transwoman. But we are told "too bad, there's nothing that can be done about those shootings, maybe you just need to start lugging a Glock around in the asscrack of your leggings, young lady."

What a crazy world the GOP has put us in.

This dismissive approach towards women's rights isn't helping your case.

You are correct that trans panic is still gripping some people. As they find themselves mid-50s, laid off, facing staggering health care premiums, things might shift. They seem to be shifting for my MAGA BIL who is currently in that spot.

Yep- ALL of these are far bigger issues facing women today. All created and foisted on us by the GOP. But they are deflecting and distracting with weird bogeyman issues like "transwomen" which has far less impact on people.

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Anonymous wrote:My beyond left-wing young adult DD told me, in secret, that she is appalled by parents having their young kids change gender. I was glad she expressed her opinion, but why does she have to hide it from her friends?
Do you all not agree that it is messed up to allow underage children to change gender?

The gender change thing really affects young Women the most. It’s unsafe for men to be allowed in women’s spaces period

Yes, by far the biggest threat to the safety of young women are trans people. Oh, wait, that might be a little off.

Statistically a young woman is vastly more likely to be shot to death in their k12 classroom or on their college campus than to be sexually assaulted by a transwoman. But we are told "too bad, there's nothing that can be done about those shootings, maybe you just need to start lugging a Glock around in the asscrack of your leggings, young lady."

What a crazy world the GOP has put us in.

This dismissive approach towards women's rights isn't helping your case.

Why are you so dismissive toward the much bigger issues of the GOP's eroding of women's rights and control over their lives and bodies? Why are you so dismissive over the gun control crisis? Of the affordability crisis that leaves so many women trapped in bad situations? Why are we supposed to make transwomen the top issue when SO MANY OTHER, FAR BIGGER issues are dragging women down?

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The whole men-in-women’s-sports issue is a scare tactic. That’s it. This is so incredibly rare. As another poster stated, it should be handled locally on a case by case basis. I only hear republicans talking about this. The only time I hear Democrats talking about it, they are responding to a question. And their answer is basically that it is not a federal government issue. This should be left to families and doctors. Democrats ARE the party of small government, and we need to start claiming that title. Rs want the government up in everyone’s business.

Also, if Rs would stop looking at people’s genitals in locker rooms and restrooms, this would be much less of an issue for them. I have no clue how many times I have shared these spaces with trans people because I don’t stare at people’s genitals.

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Anonymous wrote:Younger men are right wing because their future sucks. They are more likely to be suffering from depression, drug addiction. More likely to attempt suicide.

Their financial futures are uncertain and are unlikely to have the same standard of living as their parents. They are struggling to find jobs and buy homes.

People in those circumstances find solace in strong men and authoritarians who promise they alone can fix it. This happens throughout history and across societies.

Anonymous wrote:Young men keep getting told the right is “on their side,” but the irony is that the actual policies that have kneecapped their futures the most read like a greatest‑hits list of right‑wing economics. The same movement selling them grievance content on YouTube is the one that backed the offshoring wave that wiped out millions of male‑dominated jobs, gutted unions that once guaranteed apprenticeships and middle‑class wages, and fought every attempt to raise the minimum wage in a labor market where young men are overrepresented in low‑pay work.

They’re being pulled toward a politics that tells them their struggles are caused by immigrants, women, or “wokeness,” while the real structural hits have come from decades of GOP deregulation, union‑busting, cuts to vocational training, and blocking healthcare expansion, all of which disproportionately hurt young men trying to get stable footing. The irony is brutal: the same guys who feel abandoned by the economy are gravitating toward the faction that championed the very policies that chopped away at their economic ladder.

And the kicker? The actual number of trans athletes, DEI hires, or campus culture‑war villains affecting their real‑world prospects is statistically microscopic. Meanwhile, the big‑ticket items: wages, healthcare, job training, housing, and worker protections are where the right’s policy record hits young men hardest. They’re fighting phantoms while the big material stuff that shapes their lives was and continues to be undermined by the GOP right out in broad daylight.

The future for young men only sucks if they’re lazy and unrealistic in their expectations.

There are jobs out there. It’s better to have a crappy job than no job at all. Recent college graduates also get the safety net of staying on their parents’ healthcare for a while. That should broaden the scope of their job search.

Struggling to buy a home is generally a function of spending and saving habits. There are young men and women out there with side hustles that are setting themselves up for better financial outcomes. If your child can’t find a job throw their gaming console away.

The offshoring wave wiped out a fraction of the jobs in the U.S. workforce. I don’t know what industry you’re in, but unions aren’t gutted, they seem as strong as ever. There are trades in need of apprentices. Many entry level jobs pay more than the local minimum wage because they need workers.

Immigrants might take the lowest paying jobs but Americans think they’re too good for that kind of work. If you’re unemployed there is no job that is beneath you. Suck it up. Earn your keep.

I’m unaware of vocational training cuts. People on DCUM may not be the cohort to listen to on this topic. It seems the opportunity for vocational training is on the upswing and young men are pivoting away from college to gain the skills necessary to earn a middle class+ income with little to no debt.

If you have a male child that is struggling they need to modify their current expectations and get the best job they can at the moment. There’s always the military too.

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Anonymous wrote:My beyond left-wing young adult DD told me, in secret, that she is appalled by parents having their young kids change gender. I was glad she expressed her opinion, but why does she have to hide it from her friends?
Do you all not agree that it is messed up to allow underage children to change gender?

The gender change thing really affects young Women the most. It’s unsafe for men to be allowed in women’s spaces period

Yes, by far the biggest threat to the safety of young women are trans people. Oh, wait, that might be a little off.

Statistically a young woman is vastly more likely to be shot to death in their k12 classroom or on their college campus than to be sexually assaulted by a transwoman. But we are told "too bad, there's nothing that can be done about those shootings, maybe you just need to start lugging a Glock around in the asscrack of your leggings, young lady."

What a crazy world the GOP has put us in.

This dismissive approach towards women's rights isn't helping your case.

Why are you so dismissive toward the much bigger issues of the GOP's eroding of women's rights and control over their lives and bodies? Why are you so dismissive over the gun control crisis? Of the affordability crisis that leaves so many women trapped in bad situations? Why are we supposed to make transwomen the top issue when SO MANY OTHER, FAR BIGGER issues are dragging women down?

The PP's totally dismissive attitude toward and at the expense of everything else does not make her case as to why I should care about transwomen. I honestly do not care about edge cases like given the far bigger policy challenges that need to be addressed, like healthcare, college affordability, housing, wages, being replaced by AI and so on. I'm trying to raise a kid who will have to navigate major hurdles in life; transwomen are absolutely not one of those hurdles standing in my child's way.

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Anonymous wrote:My beyond left-wing young adult DD told me, in secret, that she is appalled by parents having their young kids change gender. I was glad she expressed her opinion, but why does she have to hide it from her friends?
Do you all not agree that it is messed up to allow underage children to change gender?

The gender change thing really affects young Women the most. It’s unsafe for men to be allowed in women’s spaces period

Yes, by far the biggest threat to the safety of young women are trans people. Oh, wait, that might be a little off.

Why are you minimizing women's concern about this?

Because there really are not cases where your fears have been realized. As others have noted, women are more likely to be threatened by a reverend or preacher or rich businessman than a trans person. They are more likely to be in a car accident or a mass shooting than be threatened by a trans person. Trans people have their own issues to be castigated and discriminated against as the right has done to be divisive. What happened to "live and let live" and "don't tread on me" and "get the government off our backs?"

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Anonymous wrote:My beyond left-wing young adult DD told me, in secret, that she is appalled by parents having their young kids change gender. I was glad she expressed her opinion, but why does she have to hide it from her friends?
Do you all not agree that it is messed up to allow underage children to change gender?

The gender change thing really affects young Women the most. It’s unsafe for men to be allowed in women’s spaces period

Yes, by far the biggest threat to the safety of young women are trans people. Oh, wait, that might be a little off.

Why are you minimizing women's concern about this?

Why are you grossly overhyping the concern? Is denying base rate a bug or a feature for you? Your argument seems to depend on it. That's not minimization of concern, it's pointing out argumentation fallacy.

A young woman has a statistically MUCH higher chance of dying from a reaction to a bee sting than of being sexually assaulted by a trans woman or losing a scholarship to a trans woman. Of being killed by a lightning strike. Of being killed by a fridge or piece of furniture falling on them. Being shot in a mass shooting. Being hit by a car. And so on.

I'm not the person that is posting about it. I was watching the interaction and was curious why you were so dismissive. I think you should just acknowledge that you believe it is an acceptable risk for women to have to manage in previously female spaces. That is at least an honest conversation, vs pretending that this roll out has been without any problems.

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Anonymous wrote:The ‘trans policies’ you are bleating about were in place when Trump was president before. Not a Biden thing, no matter how much the GOP wants to make Fetch happen.

What exactly is a "trans policy" anyway? I treat them the same as I do any other human being and they tend to reciprocate. What more is needed in official policy than that.

Government communication no longer uses the salutation Mr. Mrs. or Ms.
Laws regarding bathroom and locker room use.
Rules about women's sports.
stuff like that.

Stuff that affects almost no one?

Sorry, are you not referred to by your gender affirming salutation?

Defaulting to “well this affects almost no one” isn’t a winning proposition. There are many parents of daughters who were horrified by the Democrats acting like you were a bigot if you believed biological males shouldn’t be competing in women’s sports or using the women’s locker room. And instead of acknowledging the unpopularity of their position on those issues, they just doubled down and hoped that screaming you are a bigot would make people stay quiet.

Your side has done FAR WORSE by repeatedly refusing to act on gun control, despite massacre after massacre, atrocity after atrocity, which has traumatized and shattered VASTLY MORE families and inflicted VASTLY MORE damage than the fraction of a single digit percentage of trans people in athletics. And you refuse to acknowledge the fact that Americans, even Republicans overwhelmingly support common sense gun reforms and instead you just keep doubling down on guns guns guns, and "f your feelings, my gun is worth more than your child's life."

I am not going to care about you and your complaints about trans issues until you let us deal with the far bigger issues like this.

White MC & UMC females are the last groups that should be worrying about being killed by a firearm, let alone a mass shooting. They’re more likely to die from a lightning strike.

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Anonymous wrote:My beyond left-wing young adult DD told me, in secret, that she is appalled by parents having their young kids change gender. I was glad she expressed her opinion, but why does she have to hide it from her friends?
Do you all not agree that it is messed up to allow underage children to change gender?

The gender change thing really affects young Women the most. It’s unsafe for men to be allowed in women’s spaces period

Yes, by far the biggest threat to the safety of young women are trans people. Oh, wait, that might be a little off.

Why are you minimizing women's concern about this?

Because there really are not cases where your fears have been realized. As others have noted, women are more likely to be threatened by a reverend or preacher or rich businessman than a trans person. They are more likely to be in a car accident or a mass shooting than be threatened by a trans person. Trans people have their own issues to be castigated and discriminated against as the right has done to be divisive. What happened to "live and let live" and "don't tread on me" and "get the government off our backs?"

I suggest you read up, because there have been widely publicized cases of problems, including the rape of a female student by a so-called trans kid in the locker room of a DC suburb high school.