Will school weapon detections cause class time delay?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My child came home yesterday and told us this new procedure (they have not yet implemented/starting using the metal detectors yet):

- Students will need to remove backpacks and take out laptops, phones, watches, etc before walking through
- Students will need to remove jewelry before walking through

They were told it will take 25-30 minutes for the entire student body (this is a MS) to enter the building, so he was told they might open the doors earlier. This seems a little crazy to me.


So girls with body jewelry are going to have to take off clothing to go through the detectors?


Or not wear body jewelry.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kid has a club or sport that starts before the doors open at 730 - how does this work now?

Dd did FCA last year and the meetings were at 715. DS was in the Weight room at 630am for XC .

Are all early morning extra curriculars not possible anymore?


They have to leave the school building to go back through the metal detectors according to my kid.

For example, a kid has morning practice at the school, and is inside the gym, locker room, music room, theater, etc.

When that ends, they leave the school, get in line, and wait to go through the detector.

This is so poorly planned.


Kids who have first period in trailers also have to wait in line for the detector in the main building, and then turn around, exit and head to the trailers
.

But the detectors are there only for the school day. Sports after school? No detector. Early morning meeting? no detector (but then kicked out for screening. Make it make sense!

What if they don't do that and go directly from bus to the mod classroom? Will the teachers at the detector take student attendance or the classroom teachers?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What i find sad about that is you have hundreds of kids dragging themsleves out of bed early, trying to problem solve the problem the dumbass adults have created, and being thwarted by petty admin refusing to unlock the doors before 7:40 on the dot. When the lines have been over an hour ling.


The administrators cannot open the doors early because FCPS new security team has also added restrictions on inside the building, with locked classroom doors, escorts to class when late and more.

There is also a lack of staff to supervise the students, because the people who used to be supervising kids inside the building and directing traffic onto the school property are now spread too thin monitoring metal detectors too. The administrators are doing 3 jobs now because FCPS did not hire or budget for additional staff to run the metal detectors, or purchase a reasonable amount of metal detectors for the number of students at the schools.

D minus for the new FCPS security team.
Anonymous
I can understand all this angst if it is still an issue in a week or two. 29 pages of complaints about something brand new that is at least TRYING to protect our kids and teachers is insanity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I can understand all this angst if it is still an issue in a week or two. 29 pages of complaints about something brand new that is at least TRYING to protect our kids and teachers is insanity.


Thanks for showing up Gatehouse.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I can understand all this angst if it is still an issue in a week or two. 29 pages of complaints about something brand new that is at least TRYING to protect our kids and teachers is insanity.

Well, I am not optimistic on this seeing the posts by the parents from the high schools FCPS conducted the weapon detector pilot program.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can understand all this angst if it is still an issue in a week or two. 29 pages of complaints about something brand new that is at least TRYING to protect our kids and teachers is insanity.

Well, I am not optimistic on this seeing the posts by the parents from the high schools FCPS conducted the weapon detector pilot program.


+1 this isn't a new program. This is a program that FAILED it's pilot and was then rolled out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My child came home yesterday and told us this new procedure (they have not yet implemented/starting using the metal detectors yet):

- Students will need to remove backpacks and take out laptops, phones, watches, etc before walking through
- Students will need to remove jewelry before walking through

They were told it will take 25-30 minutes for the entire student body (this is a MS) to enter the building, so he was told they might open the doors earlier. This seems a little crazy to me.


So girls with body jewelry are going to have to take off clothing to go through the detectors?


Or not wear body jewelry.


Look, I am not a fan of body jewelry, especially on teens, but some body jewelry is cultural, and the cultures where women wear body jewelry are from very conservative religious and cultural traditions where a girl flashing her belly to her male principal and entire student body is a religious offense

Having to remove jewely is ridiculous. I can see having to remove giant gold chains like some music artists wear (although ai don't think that is a fashion look for many fcps students) but earrings and small body piercings? That is unbelievably intrusive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kid has a club or sport that starts before the doors open at 730 - how does this work now?

Dd did FCA last year and the meetings were at 715. DS was in the Weight room at 630am for XC .

Are all early morning extra curriculars not possible anymore?


They have to leave the school building to go back through the metal detectors according to my kid.

For example, a kid has morning practice at the school, and is inside the gym, locker room, music room, theater, etc.

When that ends, they leave the school, get in line, and wait to go through the detector.

This is so poorly planned.


Kids who have first period in trailers also have to wait in line for the detector in the main building, and then turn around, exit and head to the trailers
.

But the detectors are there only for the school day. Sports after school? No detector. Early morning meeting? no detector (but then kicked out for screening. Make it make sense!

What if they don't do that and go directly from bus to the mod classroom? Will the teachers at the detector take student attendance or the classroom teachers?


The teacher doesn't really have a way of knowing.
Anonymous
Any school board member has children going to FCPS middle school or high school? Do they feel the inconvenience?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your kid has a club or sport that starts before the doors open at 730 - how does this work now?

Dd did FCA last year and the meetings were at 715. DS was in the Weight room at 630am for XC .

Are all early morning extra curriculars not possible anymore?


They have to leave the school building to go back through the metal detectors according to my kid.

For example, a kid has morning practice at the school, and is inside the gym, locker room, music room, theater, etc.

When that ends, they leave the school, get in line, and wait to go through the detector.

This is so poorly planned.


So they have ample opportunity to stash a weapon in their locker in the locker room, then exit the building and go through the metal detector with zero issues!!???

Yep. That tracks
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I can understand all this angst if it is still an issue in a week or two. 29 pages of complaints about something brand new that is at least TRYING to protect our kids and teachers is insanity.


Westfield has piloted this for months and kids are still waiting in line for an hour
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I can understand all this angst if it is still an issue in a week or two. 29 pages of complaints about something brand new that is at least TRYING to protect our kids and teachers is insanity.


Another parent who sort of agrees, though my kid's school isn't using the metal detectors until next week so we have not felt the pain yet. But we all get upset about how many school shootings there are--this is one way of trying to make our kids' schools safer. It should go faster as everyone gets used to the process, I would think.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Any school board member has children going to FCPS middle school or high school? Do they feel the inconvenience?


I believe Melanie Meren does.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can understand all this angst if it is still an issue in a week or two. 29 pages of complaints about something brand new that is at least TRYING to protect our kids and teachers is insanity.


Another parent who sort of agrees, though my kid's school isn't using the metal detectors until next week so we have not felt the pain yet. But we all get upset about how many school shootings there are--this is one way of trying to make our kids' schools safer. It should go faster as everyone gets used to the process, I would think.


Not unless they throw a bunch of money at it. The problem is not that kids and screeners are unfamiliar with the process, the problem is that there are 2 metal detectors to screen 3000 kids in 30 minutes. It's just not possible, unless the admin decides that's just theater, and lets the kids walk through without doing any actual screening.
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