Harvard President resigns

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The firing of Dr Gay from her administrative position at Harvard University, like that of Dr Magill from the University of Pennsylvania, was not a triumph of right-wing activity. Rather, from the mendacious questioning in Congress through the explicit marshaling of billionaire donors, the effort all along was to rule out of order any consideration of criticism of Israel by American universities.
The evidence for this is overwhelming: the questioning in Congress conflated any support for the rights of Palestinians as "support for genocide"; the billionaire movement condemning all three testifying university administrators for providing boiler-plate defense of First-Amendment-protected free speech was targeted, not only at the administrators, but even more on students who had signed a petition which the billionaires found offensive.

Looks exactly like something Dr. Gay was paid $900K per year to write.

Or copy.

BTW - isn’t she still collecting that same $900K per year?

You seem obsessed with that 900K. You keep bringing it up.

- perhaps because she gets to keep every penny of her previous Presidential salary, while going back to her old department at Harvard, where she will do less work?

Meanwhile: the 27 Harvard students who were dismissed last year from Harvard for exactly the same sorts of academic improprieties, get: nothing.

Worse, actually. How do you answer the question: “why were you kicked out of Harvard?” (which is a question Dr. Gay never, ever, has to answer).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The firing of Dr Gay from her administrative position at Harvard University, like that of Dr Magill from the University of Pennsylvania, was not a triumph of right-wing activity. Rather, from the mendacious questioning in Congress through the explicit marshaling of billionaire donors, the effort all along was to rule out of order any consideration of criticism of Israel by American universities.
The evidence for this is overwhelming: the questioning in Congress conflated any support for the rights of Palestinians as "support for genocide"; the billionaire movement condemning all three testifying university administrators for providing boiler-plate defense of First-Amendment-protected free speech was targeted, not only at the administrators, but even more on students who had signed a petition which the billionaires found offensive.

Looks exactly like something Dr. Gay was paid $900K per year to write.

Or copy.

BTW - isn’t she still collecting that same $900K per year?

You seem obsessed with that 900K. You keep bringing it up.

- perhaps because she gets to keep every penny of her previous Presidential salary, while going back to her old department at Harvard, where she will do less work?

Meanwhile: the 27 Harvard students who were dismissed last year from Harvard for exactly the same sorts of academic improprieties, get: nothing.

Worse, actually. How do you answer the question: “why were you kicked out of Harvard?” (which is a question Dr. Gay never, ever, has to answer).

That sounds . . . unfair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She got fired because she plagiarized a fkton of her writing. Read the NYtimes article showing her work side by side with the original sources.

The entire country has gone nuts. Everything is a “social justice” battle. And course curriculums now focus on “oppressors” and “oppressed”. So we have an entire generation digesting this stuff and the next 20 years will be interesting.

TLDR; Everyone is an idiot.

+1

Well, some don’t want to waste an opportunity for outrage and to blame Jews for yet another thing they don’t actually control.

Well every news story says she was forced to resign because of antisemitism.

This. She was clearly and quite openly forced to resign due to her position on the Palestinian protests and alleged anti-semitism. Stories along these lines, tweets on condemnation and calls for her ousting have been pretty public - all based explicitly on the Israel/Anti-semitism issue. Now that she has been fired - sorry, resigned - folks like Ackhman, Rufo, and far right (and pro-israel left) are insisting that it had nothing to do with the his daily rants re: Ivy League campus protests but some long ago cases of plagiarism. Ackman is now on an anti-DEI quest, which he is coding for no more POC on campus who don't toe the line. Gay has been replaced with a white, Jewish man who is very much in line with the the lobby's political views. Yet on the heels of all of this, and Magill's firing, we're supposed to believe that it had nothing to do with the Free Palestine protests on campus.

No one believes that. Absolutely no one. I doubt that the PPs posting about plagiarism even care. You know why you started the witch hunt, and the black president was an easy target.

You know, you post a lot on this board and you frequently claim to have omniscient understanding of what literally everyone else alive thinks (“No one believes that. Absolutely no one.”). Your posts are notable for that remarkable exercise in narcissism. But they also make you sound like you are suffering from a delusional mental illness.

In any event, this is not a way to effectively persuade readers.

That's actually a hilarious comment because I have stayed away from DCUM for over a month (nearly two), as it has been overrun by the pro-genocide crowd, as evidenced by the above. Perhaps others share my views and you have been confused?

Read literally any news story, op-ed, SM commentary and the vast majority agree with the above - except for the wealthy, middle aged niche of pro-Zionnist women that is DCUM

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She got fired because she plagiarized a fkton of her writing. Read the NYtimes article showing her work side by side with the original sources.

The entire country has gone nuts. Everything is a “social justice” battle. And course curriculums now focus on “oppressors” and “oppressed”. So we have an entire generation digesting this stuff and the next 20 years will be interesting.

TLDR; Everyone is an idiot.

+1

Well, some don’t want to waste an opportunity for outrage and to blame Jews for yet another thing they don’t actually control.

Well every news story says she was forced to resign because of antisemitism.

This. She was clearly and quite openly forced to resign due to her position on the Palestinian protests and alleged anti-semitism. Stories along these lines, tweets on condemnation and calls for her ousting have been pretty public - all based explicitly on the Israel/Anti-semitism issue. Now that she has been fired - sorry, resigned - folks like Ackhman, Rufo, and far right (and pro-israel left) are insisting that it had nothing to do with the his daily rants re: Ivy League campus protests but some long ago cases of plagiarism. Ackman is now on an anti-DEI quest, which he is coding for no more POC on campus who don't toe the line. Gay has been replaced with a white, Jewish man who is very much in line with the the lobby's political views. Yet on the heels of all of this, and Magill's firing, we're supposed to believe that it had nothing to do with the Free Palestine protests on campus.

No one believes that. Absolutely no one. I doubt that the PPs posting about plagiarism even care. You know why you started the witch hunt, and the black president was an easy target.

You know, you post a lot on this board and you frequently claim to have omniscient understanding of what literally everyone else alive thinks (“No one believes that. Absolutely no one.”). Your posts are notable for that remarkable exercise in narcissism. But they also make you sound like you are suffering from a delusional mental illness.

In any event, this is not a way to effectively persuade readers.

That's actually a hilarious comment because I have stayed away from DCUM for over a month (nearly two), as it has been overrun by the pro-genocide crowd, as evidenced by the above. Perhaps others share my views and you have been confused?

Read literally any news story, op-ed, SM commentary and the vast majority agree with the above - except for the wealthy, middle aged niche of pro-Zionnist women that is DCUM

Sounds like you live in a media bubble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She got fired because she plagiarized a fkton of her writing. Read the NYtimes article showing her work side by side with the original sources.

The entire country has gone nuts. Everything is a “social justice” battle. And course curriculums now focus on “oppressors” and “oppressed”. So we have an entire generation digesting this stuff and the next 20 years will be interesting.

TLDR; Everyone is an idiot.

+1

Well, some don’t want to waste an opportunity for outrage and to blame Jews for yet another thing they don’t actually control.

Well every news story says she was forced to resign because of antisemitism.

This. She was clearly and quite openly forced to resign due to her position on the Palestinian protests and alleged anti-semitism. Stories along these lines, tweets on condemnation and calls for her ousting have been pretty public - all based explicitly on the Israel/Anti-semitism issue. Now that she has been fired - sorry, resigned - folks like Ackhman, Rufo, and far right (and pro-israel left) are insisting that it had nothing to do with the his daily rants re: Ivy League campus protests but some long ago cases of plagiarism. Ackman is now on an anti-DEI quest, which he is coding for no more POC on campus who don't toe the line. Gay has been replaced with a white, Jewish man who is very much in line with the the lobby's political views. Yet on the heels of all of this, and Magill's firing, we're supposed to believe that it had nothing to do with the Free Palestine protests on campus.

No one believes that. Absolutely no one. I doubt that the PPs posting about plagiarism even care. You know why you started the witch hunt, and the black president was an easy target.

You know, you post a lot on this board and you frequently claim to have omniscient understanding of what literally everyone else alive thinks (“No one believes that. Absolutely no one.”). Your posts are notable for that remarkable exercise in narcissism. But they also make you sound like you are suffering from a delusional mental illness.

In any event, this is not a way to effectively persuade readers.

That's actually a hilarious comment because I have stayed away from DCUM for over a month (nearly two), as it has been overrun by the pro-genocide crowd, as evidenced by the above. Perhaps others share my views and you have been confused?

Read literally any news story, op-ed, SM commentary and the vast majority agree with the above - except for the wealthy, middle aged niche of pro-Zionnist women that is DCUM

You sound deranged and bitter. Ranting about zionists? And genocide? While, presumably, ignoring actual genocides and terrorism because it doesn't fit the narrative?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She got fired because she plagiarized a fkton of her writing. Read the NYtimes article showing her work side by side with the original sources.

The entire country has gone nuts. Everything is a “social justice” battle. And course curriculums now focus on “oppressors” and “oppressed”. So we have an entire generation digesting this stuff and the next 20 years will be interesting.

TLDR; Everyone is an idiot.

+1

Well, some don’t want to waste an opportunity for outrage and to blame Jews for yet another thing they don’t actually control.

Well every news story says she was forced to resign because of antisemitism.

Every news report talks about her ample plagiarism. Also, since when are Jews responsible for antisemitism? Are black people responsible for anti-black racism?

[Anonymous]

Being under a microscope isn’t easy for anyone.

Having every word scrutinized through the lens of the Israel/Hamas/Palestinian crisis is nearly impossible for anyone to navigate without controversy.

Bottom line: she didn’t handle her crisis well. She should have acknowledged something/anything remotely sympathetic to Israel rather than bizarrely digging in.

Harvard is running a business. She’s an at will employee. Nobody is entitled to their job…even if you are a minority. She became a liability following her testimony and the multiple incidents of plagiarism were too much to overcome. Why on earth would any employer keep her at the helm?

I’m breaking this down because I’m troubled by social media chatter trying to make this out as an unfair witch hunt against black women. I know I activist who says we need a new racial reckoning specific to black women since this conservative Lynch mob will continue to go after all black women in any position of power. It’s poppycock.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Being under a microscope isn’t easy for anyone.

Having every word scrutinized through the lens of the Israel/Hamas/Palestinian crisis is nearly impossible for anyone to navigate without controversy.

Bottom line: she didn’t handle her crisis well. She should have acknowledged something/anything remotely sympathetic to Israel rather than bizarrely digging in.

Harvard is running a business. She’s an at will employee. Nobody is entitled to their job…even if you are a minority. She became a liability following her testimony and the multiple incidents of plagiarism were too much to overcome. Why on earth would any employer keep her at the helm?

I’m breaking this down because I’m troubled by social media chatter trying to make this out as an unfair witch hunt against black women. I know I activist who says we need a new racial reckoning specific to black women since this conservative Lynch mob will continue to go after all black women in any position of power. It’s poppycock.

It's in the news because it's not just portrayed as a racial reckoning for black women. It's actually being portrayed as the Jews bringing down a black woman for Zionism or some other cabal activity that also somehow involves Israel and, of course, money

[Anonymous]

My prediction: no university official will testify in front of Congress for the next decade. Why subject yourself or your institution to that political circus?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Being under a microscope isn’t easy for anyone.

Having every word scrutinized through the lens of the Israel/Hamas/Palestinian crisis is nearly impossible for anyone to navigate without controversy.

Bottom line: she didn’t handle her crisis well. She should have acknowledged something/anything remotely sympathetic to Israel rather than bizarrely digging in.

Harvard is running a business. She’s an at will employee. Nobody is entitled to their job…even if you are a minority. She became a liability following her testimony and the multiple incidents of plagiarism were too much to overcome. Why on earth would any employer keep her at the helm?

I’m breaking this down because I’m troubled by social media chatter trying to make this out as an unfair witch hunt against black women. I know I activist who says we need a new racial reckoning specific to black women since this conservative Lynch mob will continue to go after all black women in any position of power. It’s poppycock.

Well, it's pretty clear that SOME went after Gay in order to attack DEI and perceived affirmative action. Not exactly the same as a "witch hunt against black women", but certainly related to both her Blackness and her politics.

OTOH, others went after her solely because of the perceived tolerance for antisemitism and/or the bungled Congressional hearing (which was truly awful).

Others for plagiarism.

Others to go after "woke".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She got fired because she plagiarized a fkton of her writing. Read the NYtimes article showing her work side by side with the original sources.

The entire country has gone nuts. Everything is a “social justice” battle. And course curriculums now focus on “oppressors” and “oppressed”. So we have an entire generation digesting this stuff and the next 20 years will be interesting.

TLDR; Everyone is an idiot.

+1

Well, some don’t want to waste an opportunity for outrage and to blame Jews for yet another thing they don’t actually control.

Well every news story says she was forced to resign because of antisemitism.

This. She was clearly and quite openly forced to resign due to her position on the Palestinian protests and alleged anti-semitism. Stories along these lines, tweets on condemnation and calls for her ousting have been pretty public - all based explicitly on the Israel/Anti-semitism issue. Now that she has been fired - sorry, resigned - folks like Ackhman, Rufo, and far right (and pro-israel left) are insisting that it had nothing to do with the his daily rants re: Ivy League campus protests but some long ago cases of plagiarism. Ackman is now on an anti-DEI quest, which he is coding for no more POC on campus who don't toe the line. Gay has been replaced with a white, Jewish man who is very much in line with the the lobby's political views. Yet on the heels of all of this, and Magill's firing, we're supposed to believe that it had nothing to do with the Free Palestine protests on campus.

No one believes that. Absolutely no one. I doubt that the PPs posting about plagiarism even care. You know why you started the witch hunt, and the black president was an easy target.

You know, you post a lot on this board and you frequently claim to have omniscient understanding of what literally everyone else alive thinks (“No one believes that. Absolutely no one.”). Your posts are notable for that remarkable exercise in narcissism. But they also make you sound like you are suffering from a delusional mental illness.

In any event, this is not a way to effectively persuade readers.

That's actually a hilarious comment because I have stayed away from DCUM for over a month (nearly two), as it has been overrun by the pro-genocide crowd, as evidenced by the above. Perhaps others share my views and you have been confused?

Read literally any news story, op-ed, SM commentary and the vast majority agree with the above - except for the wealthy, middle aged niche of pro-Zionnist women that is DCUM

Sure you’ve been away. Sure. You respond almost instantaneously to posts, yet you want people to believe you’ve “been away.” Though given that you are clearly prone to delusions, perhaps you do indeed think you have been away.

Tell me, on what other matters do you believe you literally speak for every living person on earth? I’m curious. Your omniscience is quite fascinating.

Finally, please educate yourself on some polling data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My prediction: no university official will testify in front of Congress for the next decade. Why subject yourself or your institution to that political circus?

They will testify. Not all leaders are as incompetent and arrogant, which was the downfall of these three.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She got fired because she plagiarized a fkton of her writing. Read the NYtimes article showing her work side by side with the original sources.

The entire country has gone nuts. Everything is a “social justice” battle. And course curriculums now focus on “oppressors” and “oppressed”. So we have an entire generation digesting this stuff and the next 20 years will be interesting.

TLDR; Everyone is an idiot.

+1

Well, some don’t want to waste an opportunity for outrage and to blame Jews for yet another thing they don’t actually control.

Well every news story says she was forced to resign because of antisemitism.

This. She was clearly and quite openly forced to resign due to her position on the Palestinian protests and alleged anti-semitism. Stories along these lines, tweets on condemnation and calls for her ousting have been pretty public - all based explicitly on the Israel/Anti-semitism issue. Now that she has been fired - sorry, resigned - folks like Ackhman, Rufo, and far right (and pro-israel left) are insisting that it had nothing to do with the his daily rants re: Ivy League campus protests but some long ago cases of plagiarism. Ackman is now on an anti-DEI quest, which he is coding for no more POC on campus who don't toe the line. Gay has been replaced with a white, Jewish man who is very much in line with the the lobby's political views. Yet on the heels of all of this, and Magill's firing, we're supposed to believe that it had nothing to do with the Free Palestine protests on campus.

No one believes that. Absolutely no one. I doubt that the PPs posting about plagiarism even care. You know why you started the witch hunt, and the black president was an easy target.

You know, you post a lot on this board and you frequently claim to have omniscient understanding of what literally everyone else alive thinks (“No one believes that. Absolutely no one.”). Your posts are notable for that remarkable exercise in narcissism. But they also make you sound like you are suffering from a delusional mental illness.

In any event, this is not a way to effectively persuade readers.

That's actually a hilarious comment because I have stayed away from DCUM for over a month (nearly two), as it has been overrun by the pro-genocide crowd, as evidenced by the above. Perhaps others share my views and you have been confused?

Read literally any news story, op-ed, SM commentary and the vast majority agree with the above - except for the wealthy, middle aged niche of pro-Zionnist women that is DCUM

Funny, b/c that's not at all what the polls show.

But "SM commentary" undoubtedly a more accurate gauge.

FFS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Being under a microscope isn’t easy for anyone.

Having every word scrutinized through the lens of the Israel/Hamas/Palestinian crisis is nearly impossible for anyone to navigate without controversy.

Bottom line: she didn’t handle her crisis well. She should have acknowledged something/anything remotely sympathetic to Israel rather than bizarrely digging in.

Harvard is running a business. She’s an at will employee. Nobody is entitled to their job…even if you are a minority. She became a liability following her testimony and the multiple incidents of plagiarism were too much to overcome. Why on earth would any employer keep her at the helm?

I’m breaking this down because I’m troubled by social media chatter trying to make this out as an unfair witch hunt against black women. I know I activist who says we need a new racial reckoning specific to black women since this conservative Lynch mob will continue to go after all black women in any position of power. It’s poppycock.

Well, it's pretty clear that SOME went after Gay in order to attack DEI and perceived affirmative action. Not exactly the same as a "witch hunt against black women", but certainly related to both her Blackness and her politics.

OTOH, others went after her solely because of the perceived tolerance for antisemitism and/or the bungled Congressional hearing (which was truly awful).

Others for plagiarism.

Others to go after "woke".

Good list. I would just add:

Others are going after "elite" universities as part of a wider GOP effort to dismantle what they perceive to be the pillars of progressive society (oh the irony since so many of the GOP rising stars like Stefanik are actual Ivy League grads)

“A reckoning is coming to higher education,” said Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.), whose questioning during a congressional hearing led to the resignations of the president of the University of Pennsylvania and then, on Tuesday, Gay. [b]“This is just the beginning of exposing the rot in our most ‘prestigious’ higher education institutions.”)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My prediction: no university official will testify in front of Congress for the next decade. Why subject yourself or your institution to that political circus?

They will testify. Not all leaders are as incompetent and arrogant, which was the downfall of these three.

How did these three end up testifying? There have been horrific incidents of anti-Semitism and course language at Tulane, the UC schools, Cornell, Cooper Union, etc.

Personally, I think it's weird that three women university presidents were testifying when university presidents are something like 70%+ male.