Wealthy donors pull funding from from Harvard and U Penn for failure to denounce “antisemitism”

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Anonymous wrote:I will point out again: the number of people in the US celebrating violence against Jews and Israel WAY outnumbers the number of Jews celebrating violence against Palestinians.

Yes there are exceptions, but the overall trend is clear.

At that rally where the Columbia professor spoke, there were no political signs. There were candles and pictures of people who are being held hostage by Hamas.

What's your data to back that up? Your feelings?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I will point out again: the number of people in the US celebrating violence against Jews and Israel WAY outnumbers the number of Jews celebrating violence against Palestinians.

Yes there are exceptions, but the overall trend is clear.

At that rally where the Columbia professor spoke, there were no political signs. There were candles and pictures of people who are being held hostage by Hamas.

What's your data to back that up? Your feelings?

My eyes and my ability to read about what’s been happening.

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Anonymous wrote:if universities had stayed politically neutral then you’d be right. but they dug themselves this hole by deciding that the university shoild take sides instead of being an institution that creates a space for all sides.

I agree. I’m so disappointed that an institution like Harvard who knows the true history of they bother to understand it can't see past dollar signs. Instead they are gaslighting and trying to blacklist the truth. Every American has the right to free speech whether you agree or disagree.

This is not a free speech issue. If a donor doesn't like the content of speech affiliated with a university, they are free to place their funds elsewhere.

No that is not what they are doing. They are using the conservative play book of attacking individuals to silence them. This is exactly what Trump and the conservative do every day.

LOL. It wasn't conservatives that came up with TERF or Karen to silence women.
It wasn't conservatives that call everyone a MAGA, Nazi, Bot, troll for everyone opinion they disagree with.
Progressives cannot stand the idea that their monster has turned on them.

Independent voter, and I agree with pretty much all of this.

Progressives maybe, but not Dems. The real dems - like Joe Biden (and me) - are sane.

Unfortunately, the real republicans are just MAGA and insane. That’s why normal republicans are now dems.

Antisemitism is part MAGA, no doubt. It’s not part of main stream dems though.

OMG. What a bunch of garbage. Liberals, especially LWNJs, have always been antisemitic. They felt they had an excuse to be loud and proud about it after the Hamas attack, but thankfully, backlash was swift. Major miscalculation on their part.

As for your assertion that "real dems" - like you, of course - are "sane" but real Republicans are all "MAGA and insane," spare us all. Both Republicans and Democrats have extreme factions - MAGA and LWNJs. Plenty of sanity in between the two. Nice try, though.
DP

as far as I remember, all Americans who attacked Synagogues and killed Jewish people were right wing. and the thousands of people marching in Charlottsville just six years ago carrying torches a la Germany 1933 style and chanting "Jews will not replace us" were not Barnie Sanders' supporters (and the GOP president at that time was the one who said there were good people on both sides and guess what, he is still the GOP's front runner, hardly a fringe).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will point out again: the number of people in the US celebrating violence against Jews and Israel WAY outnumbers the number of Jews celebrating violence against Palestinians.

Yes there are exceptions, but the overall trend is clear.

At that rally where the Columbia professor spoke, there were no political signs. There were candles and pictures of people who are being held hostage by Hamas.

What's your data to back that up? Your feelings?

My eyes and my ability to read about what’s been happening.

So your feelings it is.

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Anonymous wrote:this mike tosca affair is so bizarre. she denounces words she posted the day before? uh, then why the hell did she post them? i'm surprised that a non-passing transwoman would be so against israel anyway, israel is very friendly and tolerant of trans. in palestine she would be killed.

This is what I don’t understand. Why on earth does the LGBTQ community - and liberals in general - support Palestine, a place that despises LGBTQ people and executes them? It makes zero sense.

These people only understand oppressor vs the oppressed.

To be fair to them, this is all they've ever been taught.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this mike tosca affair is so bizarre. she denounces words she posted the day before? uh, then why the hell did she post them? i'm surprised that a non-passing transwoman would be so against israel anyway, israel is very friendly and tolerant of trans. in palestine she would be killed.

This is what I don’t understand. Why on earth does the LGBTQ community - and liberals in general - support Palestine, a place that despises LGBTQ people and executes them? It makes zero sense.

It’s very surface level. They believe they are supporting an oppressed people and don’t understand anything all about the politics. to a certain extent I can agree with that (the palestinian people are not their government) but they end up becoming part of a political propaganda campaign in their naivete.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:this mike tosca affair is so bizarre. she denounces words she posted the day before? uh, then why the hell did she post them? i'm surprised that a non-passing transwoman would be so against israel anyway, israel is very friendly and tolerant of trans. in palestine she would be killed.

This is what I don’t understand. Why on earth does the LGBTQ community - and liberals in general - support Palestine, a place that despises LGBTQ people and executes them? It makes zero sense.

It’s very surface level. They believe they are supporting an oppressed people and don’t understand anything all about the politics. to a certain extent I can agree with that (the palestinian people are not their government) but they end up becoming part of a political propaganda campaign in their naivete.

Proof that it's all surface level and an uneasy alliance: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned

[Anonymous]

I appreciated this article reflecting on the attitudes of "the left" (which of course means different things to different people). It is specifically addressed to Jews who previously considered themselves part of it and are now feeling ostracized, but it was a good summary of the progressive position regarding Jews who get too Jewey.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/jews-of-the-left

Here's a paragraph everyone should read to understand how classic antisemitism fundamentally informs anti-Israel attitudes:

Today, your progressive friends need a scapegoat. For imperialism, for colonialism, for white supremacy. For the indelible sins etched into their own histories. Will they leave their own “settler-colonies”? Will they stick out their own necks to be cut by the “oppressed”? No. They’ll outsource that to Jews, in keeping with a tradition based on a Jew who was tortured to death to absolve us of all sin. A Jew whose death may have been tragic, but was also necessary to redeem the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I appreciated this article reflecting on the attitudes of "the left" (which of course means different things to different people). It is specifically addressed to Jews who previously considered themselves part of it and are now feeling ostracized, but it was a good summary of the progressive position regarding Jews who get too Jewey.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/jews-of-the-left

Here's a paragraph everyone should read to understand how classic antisemitism fundamentally informs anti-Israel attitudes:

Today, your progressive friends need a scapegoat. For imperialism, for colonialism, for white supremacy. For the indelible sins etched into their own histories. Will they leave their own “settler-colonies”? Will they stick out their own necks to be cut by the “oppressed”? No. They’ll outsource that to Jews, in keeping with a tradition based on a Jew who was tortured to death to absolve us of all sin. A Jew whose death may have been tragic, but was also necessary to redeem the world.

I’m not Jewish but thought that was a very good article as a formerly leftist woman watching the surge of misogyny in progressives with dismay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I appreciated this article reflecting on the attitudes of "the left" (which of course means different things to different people). It is specifically addressed to Jews who previously considered themselves part of it and are now feeling ostracized, but it was a good summary of the progressive position regarding Jews who get too Jewey.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/jews-of-the-left

Here's a paragraph everyone should read to understand how classic antisemitism fundamentally informs anti-Israel attitudes:

Today, your progressive friends need a scapegoat. For imperialism, for colonialism, for white supremacy. For the indelible sins etched into their own histories. Will they leave their own “settler-colonies”? Will they stick out their own necks to be cut by the “oppressed”? No. They’ll outsource that to Jews, in keeping with a tradition based on a Jew who was tortured to death to absolve us of all sin. A Jew whose death may have been tragic, but was also necessary to redeem the world.

It really stings for American Jews because we have been such a big part of the progressive left for such a long time.

These people don’t realize that Jews worked with black people to form the NAACP.

Jewish people died in the south going down to help register black people to vote.

MLK chose Rabbi Joachim Prinz to speak right before him at the March on Washington. MLK walked arm in arm with Abraham Joshua Heschel in Selma.

Jews were instrumental in the creation of democratic socialism.

So there’s a lot of feelings of betrayal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appreciated this article reflecting on the attitudes of "the left" (which of course means different things to different people). It is specifically addressed to Jews who previously considered themselves part of it and are now feeling ostracized, but it was a good summary of the progressive position regarding Jews who get too Jewey.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/jews-of-the-left

Here's a paragraph everyone should read to understand how classic antisemitism fundamentally informs anti-Israel attitudes:

Today, your progressive friends need a scapegoat. For imperialism, for colonialism, for white supremacy. For the indelible sins etched into their own histories. Will they leave their own “settler-colonies”? Will they stick out their own necks to be cut by the “oppressed”? No. They’ll outsource that to Jews, in keeping with a tradition based on a Jew who was tortured to death to absolve us of all sin. A Jew whose death may have been tragic, but was also necessary to redeem the world.

It really stings for American Jews because we have been such a big part of the progressive left for such a long time.

These people don’t realize that Jews worked with black people to form the NAACP.

Jewish people died in the south going down to help register black people to vote.

MLK chose Rabbi Joachim Prinz to speak right before him at the March on Washington. MLK walked arm in arm with Abraham Joshua Heschel in Selma.

Jews were instrumental in the creation of democratic socialism.

So there’s a lot of feelings of betrayal.

Our educational system in the colleges (and high school) is so weak now. No one learns this in school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:this mike tosca affair is so bizarre. she denounces words she posted the day before? uh, then why the hell did she post them? i'm surprised that a non-passing transwoman would be so against israel anyway, israel is very friendly and tolerant of trans. in palestine she would be killed.

This is what I don’t understand. Why on earth does the LGBTQ community - and liberals in general - support Palestine, a place that despises LGBTQ people and executes them? It makes zero sense.

It’s very surface level. They believe they are supporting an oppressed people and don’t understand anything all about the politics. to a certain extent I can agree with that (the palestinian people are not their government) but they end up becoming part of a political propaganda campaign in their naivete.

White Savior Complex. Makes ‘‘em feel good about themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appreciated this article reflecting on the attitudes of "the left" (which of course means different things to different people). It is specifically addressed to Jews who previously considered themselves part of it and are now feeling ostracized, but it was a good summary of the progressive position regarding Jews who get too Jewey.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/jews-of-the-left

Here's a paragraph everyone should read to understand how classic antisemitism fundamentally informs anti-Israel attitudes:

Today, your progressive friends need a scapegoat. For imperialism, for colonialism, for white supremacy. For the indelible sins etched into their own histories. Will they leave their own “settler-colonies”? Will they stick out their own necks to be cut by the “oppressed”? No. They’ll outsource that to Jews, in keeping with a tradition based on a Jew who was tortured to death to absolve us of all sin. A Jew whose death may have been tragic, but was also necessary to redeem the world.

I’m not Jewish but thought that was a very good article as a formerly leftist woman watching the surge of misogyny in progressives with dismay.

So what do you consider yourself now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:this mike tosca affair is so bizarre. she denounces words she posted the day before? uh, then why the hell did she post them? i'm surprised that a non-passing transwoman would be so against israel anyway, israel is very friendly and tolerant of trans. in palestine she would be killed.

Because he thought he would not get flack because in his mind trans>terror

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this mike tosca affair is so bizarre. she denounces words she posted the day before? uh, then why the hell did she post them? i'm surprised that a non-passing transwoman would be so against israel anyway, israel is very friendly and tolerant of trans. in palestine she would be killed.

Because he thought he would not get flack because in his mind trans>terror

She/he denounced so as not to lose his $120,000 per year job.