Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the list of ANC commissioners behind this plan.
- https://anc3c.org/commissioners/
- http://anc3f.com/about/
- https://anc3g.org/commission-as-a-whole/
- https://anc.dc.gov/page/advisory-neighborhood-commission-3e

These are the people that need to explain themselves.


It is a simple explanation. DDOT conducted a study to end reversible lanes and decide what the path is for the future. DDOT held a bunch of meetings, the ANC's and even SMD commissioners held meetings. The feedbacl was overhwelmingly in favor of "Option C," the Mayor based on the feedback from the public and the ANC's "great weight" chose option C and the Council funded it.

Again, the overwhelming majority of people who provided comments were in favor of it; with almost unanimity, the ANC Commissioners were in favor of it, and only one single Commissioner in the span of Connecticut Avenue from Woodley Park to Chevy Chase opposed it

If anything, at this point, the people who need to explain themselves are the ones who believe that cars are the future, that clogging roads with the most inefficient form of urban transportation is the path forward.


The mayor also closed the schools at the same time these meetings were occurring. Few parents had any bandwidth left to participate in this process because they were trying to juggle home school with work obligations. Most of the participants were young, childless, renters who have little if any skin in the game. This process was a complete fraud.


Oh yes, SIXTY public meetings plus the chance to submit written comments to DDOT is a "complete fraud." Designed to silence parents who spent $2 mil on their "1940s colonial" and to only hear those worthless renters.

Anyway, covid forced all public meetings to transition to virtual. This actually drastically increased the number of participants of all different opinions. Before, there would be like 3 people at ANC meetings. After, dozens or hundreds came online. Virtual made it significantly easier for parents to participate, actually.


You obviously do not have kids. Because if you did you’d still be recovering from the trauma of trying to juggle 8 simultaneously hours of Zoom calls for two working adults and two kids five days a week. The last thing parents wanted to deal with those two years was another Zoom call.


Yes somehow, everyone but you managed to make it to these meetings, and yes, most of us also have jobs and kids.
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Anonymous wrote:Here is the list of ANC commissioners behind this plan.
- https://anc3c.org/commissioners/
- http://anc3f.com/about/
- https://anc3g.org/commission-as-a-whole/
- https://anc.dc.gov/page/advisory-neighborhood-commission-3e

These are the people that need to explain themselves.


It is a simple explanation. DDOT conducted a study to end reversible lanes and decide what the path is for the future. DDOT held a bunch of meetings, the ANC's and even SMD commissioners held meetings. The feedbacl was overhwelmingly in favor of "Option C," the Mayor based on the feedback from the public and the ANC's "great weight" chose option C and the Council funded it.

Again, the overwhelming majority of people who provided comments were in favor of it; with almost unanimity, the ANC Commissioners were in favor of it, and only one single Commissioner in the span of Connecticut Avenue from Woodley Park to Chevy Chase opposed it

If anything, at this point, the people who need to explain themselves are the ones who believe that cars are the future, that clogging roads with the most inefficient form of urban transportation is the path forward.


The mayor also closed the schools at the same time these meetings were occurring. Few parents had any bandwidth left to participate in this process because they were trying to juggle home school with work obligations. Most of the participants were young, childless, renters who have little if any skin in the game. This process was a complete fraud.


Oh yes, SIXTY public meetings plus the chance to submit written comments to DDOT is a "complete fraud." Designed to silence parents who spent $2 mil on their "1940s colonial" and to only hear those worthless renters.

Anyway, covid forced all public meetings to transition to virtual. This actually drastically increased the number of participants of all different opinions. Before, there would be like 3 people at ANC meetings. After, dozens or hundreds came online. Virtual made it significantly easier for parents to participate, actually.


You obviously do not have kids. Because if you did you’d still be recovering from the trauma of trying to juggle 8 simultaneously hours of Zoom calls for two working adults and two kids five days a week. The last thing parents wanted to deal with those two years was another Zoom call.


Yes, I do. And it was significantly easier to attend on Zoom than it is to have to go in person. Your claims are frankly absurd and just go to show the lengths to which people will go to complain. You're convincing nobody except yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is the list of ANC commissioners behind this plan.
- https://anc3c.org/commissioners/
- http://anc3f.com/about/
- https://anc3g.org/commission-as-a-whole/
- https://anc.dc.gov/page/advisory-neighborhood-commission-3e

These are the people that need to explain themselves.


It is a simple explanation. DDOT conducted a study to end reversible lanes and decide what the path is for the future. DDOT held a bunch of meetings, the ANC's and even SMD commissioners held meetings. The feedbacl was overhwelmingly in favor of "Option C," the Mayor based on the feedback from the public and the ANC's "great weight" chose option C and the Council funded it.

Again, the overwhelming majority of people who provided comments were in favor of it; with almost unanimity, the ANC Commissioners were in favor of it, and only one single Commissioner in the span of Connecticut Avenue from Woodley Park to Chevy Chase opposed it

If anything, at this point, the people who need to explain themselves are the ones who believe that cars are the future, that clogging roads with the most inefficient form of urban transportation is the path forward.


The mayor also closed the schools at the same time these meetings were occurring. Few parents had any bandwidth left to participate in this process because they were trying to juggle home school with work obligations. Most of the participants were young, childless, renters who have little if any skin in the game. This process was a complete fraud.


DC is remarkably hostile to parents and children, and I think this is a big reason why. Our elected leaders, beginning at the ANC level, almost never have school age kids. They don't even think about how their policies affect families. They see everything through the eyes of childless adults who have very different priorities than people with kids. And parents generally don't participate in the process because they don't have time.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is the list of ANC commissioners behind this plan.
- https://anc3c.org/commissioners/
- http://anc3f.com/about/
- https://anc3g.org/commission-as-a-whole/
- https://anc.dc.gov/page/advisory-neighborhood-commission-3e

These are the people that need to explain themselves.


It is a simple explanation. DDOT conducted a study to end reversible lanes and decide what the path is for the future. DDOT held a bunch of meetings, the ANC's and even SMD commissioners held meetings. The feedbacl was overhwelmingly in favor of "Option C," the Mayor based on the feedback from the public and the ANC's "great weight" chose option C and the Council funded it.

Again, the overwhelming majority of people who provided comments were in favor of it; with almost unanimity, the ANC Commissioners were in favor of it, and only one single Commissioner in the span of Connecticut Avenue from Woodley Park to Chevy Chase opposed it

If anything, at this point, the people who need to explain themselves are the ones who believe that cars are the future, that clogging roads with the most inefficient form of urban transportation is the path forward.


The mayor also closed the schools at the same time these meetings were occurring. Few parents had any bandwidth left to participate in this process because they were trying to juggle home school with work obligations. Most of the participants were young, childless, renters who have little if any skin in the game. This process was a complete fraud.


Oh yes, SIXTY public meetings plus the chance to submit written comments to DDOT is a "complete fraud." Designed to silence parents who spent $2 mil on their "1940s colonial" and to only hear those worthless renters.

Anyway, covid forced all public meetings to transition to virtual. This actually drastically increased the number of participants of all different opinions. Before, there would be like 3 people at ANC meetings. After, dozens or hundreds came online. Virtual made it significantly easier for parents to participate, actually.


You obviously do not have kids. Because if you did you’d still be recovering from the trauma of trying to juggle 8 simultaneously hours of Zoom calls for two working adults and two kids five days a week. The last thing parents wanted to deal with those two years was another Zoom call.


Yes, I do. And it was significantly easier to attend on Zoom than it is to have to go in person. Your claims are frankly absurd and just go to show the lengths to which people will go to complain. You're convincing nobody except yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is the list of ANC commissioners behind this plan.
- https://anc3c.org/commissioners/
- http://anc3f.com/about/
- https://anc3g.org/commission-as-a-whole/
- https://anc.dc.gov/page/advisory-neighborhood-commission-3e

These are the people that need to explain themselves.


It is a simple explanation. DDOT conducted a study to end reversible lanes and decide what the path is for the future. DDOT held a bunch of meetings, the ANC's and even SMD commissioners held meetings. The feedbacl was overhwelmingly in favor of "Option C," the Mayor based on the feedback from the public and the ANC's "great weight" chose option C and the Council funded it.

Again, the overwhelming majority of people who provided comments were in favor of it; with almost unanimity, the ANC Commissioners were in favor of it, and only one single Commissioner in the span of Connecticut Avenue from Woodley Park to Chevy Chase opposed it

If anything, at this point, the people who need to explain themselves are the ones who believe that cars are the future, that clogging roads with the most inefficient form of urban transportation is the path forward.


The mayor also closed the schools at the same time these meetings were occurring. Few parents had any bandwidth left to participate in this process because they were trying to juggle home school with work obligations. Most of the participants were young, childless, renters who have little if any skin in the game. This process was a complete fraud.


Oh yes, SIXTY public meetings plus the chance to submit written comments to DDOT is a "complete fraud." Designed to silence parents who spent $2 mil on their "1940s colonial" and to only hear those worthless renters.

Anyway, covid forced all public meetings to transition to virtual. This actually drastically increased the number of participants of all different opinions. Before, there would be like 3 people at ANC meetings. After, dozens or hundreds came online. Virtual made it significantly easier for parents to participate, actually.


You obviously do not have kids. Because if you did you’d still be recovering from the trauma of trying to juggle 8 simultaneously hours of Zoom calls for two working adults and two kids five days a week. The last thing parents wanted to deal with those two years was another Zoom call.


Yes, I do. And it was significantly easier to attend on Zoom than it is to have to go in person. Your claims are frankly absurd and just go to show the lengths to which people will go to complain. You're convincing nobody except yourself.


Give me a break. If you are a parent and you have time to pay attention to this stuff, you are the rare exception. People without kids have all the time in the world. People with kids, generally speaking, are just trying to keep their heads above water.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is the list of ANC commissioners behind this plan.
- https://anc3c.org/commissioners/
- http://anc3f.com/about/
- https://anc3g.org/commission-as-a-whole/
- https://anc.dc.gov/page/advisory-neighborhood-commission-3e

These are the people that need to explain themselves.


It is a simple explanation. DDOT conducted a study to end reversible lanes and decide what the path is for the future. DDOT held a bunch of meetings, the ANC's and even SMD commissioners held meetings. The feedbacl was overhwelmingly in favor of "Option C," the Mayor based on the feedback from the public and the ANC's "great weight" chose option C and the Council funded it.

Again, the overwhelming majority of people who provided comments were in favor of it; with almost unanimity, the ANC Commissioners were in favor of it, and only one single Commissioner in the span of Connecticut Avenue from Woodley Park to Chevy Chase opposed it

If anything, at this point, the people who need to explain themselves are the ones who believe that cars are the future, that clogging roads with the most inefficient form of urban transportation is the path forward.


The mayor also closed the schools at the same time these meetings were occurring. Few parents had any bandwidth left to participate in this process because they were trying to juggle home school with work obligations. Most of the participants were young, childless, renters who have little if any skin in the game. This process was a complete fraud.


DC is remarkably hostile to parents and children, and I think this is a big reason why. Our elected leaders, beginning at the ANC level, almost never have school age kids. They don't even think about how their policies affect families. They see everything through the eyes of childless adults who have very different priorities than people with kids. And parents generally don't participate in the process because they don't have time.


Most of the ANC commissioners I know are recent empty nesters or older residents. Of course people with school aged kids are generally too busy to serve in that role.
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Anonymous wrote:The city has had bike lanes for more than a decade, and the government has bent over backwards to promote them, and yet biking remains the least popular means of transportation.

Surveys show biking is less popular than driving, taking the subway, riding the bus, taking a cab/uber, walking, carpooling and commuter rail

It's surprising that the city has put so much effort into promoting bike lanes (they even pay teachers to bike), for so long, and still it hasn't really caught on.

I guess maybe it only appeals to a small segment of the population.


It would appeal to more if there were a concerted and connected network. That is why Connecticut Avenue is so important. It provides the straightest and flatest path from uptown, through the several commercial areas, to downtown. It connects residents with business and schools.


This is utterly ridiculous. No one who doesnt already bike thinks to themselves, "Well, I would if only there was a concerted and connected network." Only hardcore bike geeks think like that. Normal people see bike lanes everywhere.

It seems like the bike lobby's argument is always "we know not very many people bike right now but if you give us endless amounts of money and turn the city upside down, eventually people will come." Well, we've had bike lanes for almost 15 years and it seems clear they aren't catching on.


Wrong. Avid cyclists will bike wherever. The normal person says "holy crap, there is no way I am biking on Connecticut Avenue."


Normal people say "who are these idiots who think it's safe to ride a bike in a city?" That isn't going to change regardless of what happens with Connecticut Avenue.
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Anonymous wrote:The city has had bike lanes for more than a decade, and the government has bent over backwards to promote them, and yet biking remains the least popular means of transportation.

Surveys show biking is less popular than driving, taking the subway, riding the bus, taking a cab/uber, walking, carpooling and commuter rail

It's surprising that the city has put so much effort into promoting bike lanes (they even pay teachers to bike), for so long, and still it hasn't really caught on.

I guess maybe it only appeals to a small segment of the population.


It would appeal to more if there were a concerted and connected network. That is why Connecticut Avenue is so important. It provides the straightest and flatest path from uptown, through the several commercial areas, to downtown. It connects residents with business and schools.


This is utterly ridiculous. No one who doesnt already bike thinks to themselves, "Well, I would if only there was a concerted and connected network." Only hardcore bike geeks think like that. Normal people see bike lanes everywhere.

It seems like the bike lobby's argument is always "we know not very many people bike right now but if you give us endless amounts of money and turn the city upside down, eventually people will come." Well, we've had bike lanes for almost 15 years and it seems clear they aren't catching on.


Wrong. Avid cyclists will bike wherever. The normal person says "holy crap, there is no way I am biking on Connecticut Avenue."


Have been biking in this city for 20 years. There has absolutely been an explosion in people biking that has accompanied the development of biking infrastructure. When I started biking here, it was only hardcore biker messenger types and poor students (me) biking. Now I see parents, commuters, kids, and all manner of folks biking all the time. You can debate whether bike lanes are worth it, but to suggest that bike lanes "have not caught on" is just to deny reality.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The city has had bike lanes for more than a decade, and the government has bent over backwards to promote them, and yet biking remains the least popular means of transportation.

Surveys show biking is less popular than driving, taking the subway, riding the bus, taking a cab/uber, walking, carpooling and commuter rail

It's surprising that the city has put so much effort into promoting bike lanes (they even pay teachers to bike), for so long, and still it hasn't really caught on.

I guess maybe it only appeals to a small segment of the population.


It would appeal to more if there were a concerted and connected network. That is why Connecticut Avenue is so important. It provides the straightest and flatest path from uptown, through the several commercial areas, to downtown. It connects residents with business and schools.


This is utterly ridiculous. No one who doesnt already bike thinks to themselves, "Well, I would if only there was a concerted and connected network." Only hardcore bike geeks think like that. Normal people see bike lanes everywhere.

It seems like the bike lobby's argument is always "we know not very many people bike right now but if you give us endless amounts of money and turn the city upside down, eventually people will come." Well, we've had bike lanes for almost 15 years and it seems clear they aren't catching on.


Wrong. Avid cyclists will bike wherever. The normal person says "holy crap, there is no way I am biking on Connecticut Avenue."


Normal people say "who are these idiots who think it's safe to ride a bike in a city?" That isn't going to change regardless of what happens with Connecticut Avenue.


So you think it is unsafe to blanket ride in a city? You think that protected bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue won't prompt people to ride in the neighborhood?

Boy, am I glad you are not in charge of anything related to planning and transportation.

I guess you prefer this:

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the list of ANC commissioners behind this plan.
- https://anc3c.org/commissioners/
- http://anc3f.com/about/
- https://anc3g.org/commission-as-a-whole/
- https://anc.dc.gov/page/advisory-neighborhood-commission-3e

These are the people that need to explain themselves.


It is a simple explanation. DDOT conducted a study to end reversible lanes and decide what the path is for the future. DDOT held a bunch of meetings, the ANC's and even SMD commissioners held meetings. The feedbacl was overhwelmingly in favor of "Option C," the Mayor based on the feedback from the public and the ANC's "great weight" chose option C and the Council funded it.

Again, the overwhelming majority of people who provided comments were in favor of it; with almost unanimity, the ANC Commissioners were in favor of it, and only one single Commissioner in the span of Connecticut Avenue from Woodley Park to Chevy Chase opposed it

If anything, at this point, the people who need to explain themselves are the ones who believe that cars are the future, that clogging roads with the most inefficient form of urban transportation is the path forward.


The mayor also closed the schools at the same time these meetings were occurring. Few parents had any bandwidth left to participate in this process because they were trying to juggle home school with work obligations. Most of the participants were young, childless, renters who have little if any skin in the game. This process was a complete fraud.


DC is remarkably hostile to parents and children, and I think this is a big reason why. Our elected leaders, beginning at the ANC level, almost never have school age kids. They don't even think about how their policies affect families. They see everything through the eyes of childless adults who have very different priorities than people with kids. And parents generally don't participate in the process because they don't have time.


Most of the ANC commissioners I know are recent empty nesters or older residents. Of course people with school aged kids are generally too busy to serve in that role.


“Most”? Which ANC would that be exactly? This is easily probably false.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is the list of ANC commissioners behind this plan.
- https://anc3c.org/commissioners/
- http://anc3f.com/about/
- https://anc3g.org/commission-as-a-whole/
- https://anc.dc.gov/page/advisory-neighborhood-commission-3e

These are the people that need to explain themselves.


It is a simple explanation. DDOT conducted a study to end reversible lanes and decide what the path is for the future. DDOT held a bunch of meetings, the ANC's and even SMD commissioners held meetings. The feedbacl was overhwelmingly in favor of "Option C," the Mayor based on the feedback from the public and the ANC's "great weight" chose option C and the Council funded it.

Again, the overwhelming majority of people who provided comments were in favor of it; with almost unanimity, the ANC Commissioners were in favor of it, and only one single Commissioner in the span of Connecticut Avenue from Woodley Park to Chevy Chase opposed it

If anything, at this point, the people who need to explain themselves are the ones who believe that cars are the future, that clogging roads with the most inefficient form of urban transportation is the path forward.


The mayor also closed the schools at the same time these meetings were occurring. Few parents had any bandwidth left to participate in this process because they were trying to juggle home school with work obligations. Most of the participants were young, childless, renters who have little if any skin in the game. This process was a complete fraud.


DC is remarkably hostile to parents and children, and I think this is a big reason why. Our elected leaders, beginning at the ANC level, almost never have school age kids. They don't even think about how their policies affect families. They see everything through the eyes of childless adults who have very different priorities than people with kids. And parents generally don't participate in the process because they don't have time.


The mayor has kids. DDOT working on this stuff have kids. At least half my ANC members have kids. MANY parents from our school participate in ANC meetings virtually. Every time we discuss traffic issues we talk about making it safe for kids.

Stop whining here and sign up for your local listserv.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is the list of ANC commissioners behind this plan.
- https://anc3c.org/commissioners/
- http://anc3f.com/about/
- https://anc3g.org/commission-as-a-whole/
- https://anc.dc.gov/page/advisory-neighborhood-commission-3e

These are the people that need to explain themselves.


It is a simple explanation. DDOT conducted a study to end reversible lanes and decide what the path is for the future. DDOT held a bunch of meetings, the ANC's and even SMD commissioners held meetings. The feedbacl was overhwelmingly in favor of "Option C," the Mayor based on the feedback from the public and the ANC's "great weight" chose option C and the Council funded it.

Again, the overwhelming majority of people who provided comments were in favor of it; with almost unanimity, the ANC Commissioners were in favor of it, and only one single Commissioner in the span of Connecticut Avenue from Woodley Park to Chevy Chase opposed it

If anything, at this point, the people who need to explain themselves are the ones who believe that cars are the future, that clogging roads with the most inefficient form of urban transportation is the path forward.


The mayor also closed the schools at the same time these meetings were occurring. Few parents had any bandwidth left to participate in this process because they were trying to juggle home school with work obligations. Most of the participants were young, childless, renters who have little if any skin in the game. This process was a complete fraud.


Oh yes, SIXTY public meetings plus the chance to submit written comments to DDOT is a "complete fraud." Designed to silence parents who spent $2 mil on their "1940s colonial" and to only hear those worthless renters.

Anyway, covid forced all public meetings to transition to virtual. This actually drastically increased the number of participants of all different opinions. Before, there would be like 3 people at ANC meetings. After, dozens or hundreds came online. Virtual made it significantly easier for parents to participate, actually.


You obviously do not have kids. Because if you did you’d still be recovering from the trauma of trying to juggle 8 simultaneously hours of Zoom calls for two working adults and two kids five days a week. The last thing parents wanted to deal with those two years was another Zoom call.


Yes, I do. And it was significantly easier to attend on Zoom than it is to have to go in person. Your claims are frankly absurd and just go to show the lengths to which people will go to complain. You're convincing nobody except yourself.


Give me a break. If you are a parent and you have time to pay attention to this stuff, you are the rare exception. People without kids have all the time in the world. People with kids, generally speaking, are just trying to keep their heads above water.

As a parent, I absolutely can attend a community Zoom on my phone while cooking and serving dinner. I can't drag my kids 6 to 830pm to the local school or rec center to do nothing while I sit on a kid chair and watch a bunch of presentations and neighbors comments.
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Anonymous wrote:This will push more commuting cars onto reno road and wisconsin who then will cut through neighborhoods to get to rock creek, you are just "calming" traffic (e.g. creating gridlock) on Conn Ave and pumping tons of cars onto peoples residential streets, which are not made for it, which is worse for the environment and the city - but you can now feel superior coasting down your bike lane on Conn Ave. There is no reason bikes can't use the side streets, they are safer - it just takes longer and the bike's want to hijack a lane on the most direct route (signed a pedestrian, not a driver)


If you’re really worried about cut through traffic (which is an issue for a lot of neighborhoods with artery roads without bike lanes), ask DDOT to install speed bumps. The risk that some streets experience cut through traffic is not a good argument against the bike lanes.


Speed humps are not meant to mitigate the volume of traffic, but rather the speed.

DC is a grid, you can't just close off public space in the form of streets.


Who is closing streets?


That's the point. Although some are trying. You can't close off side streets. Side streets filled with seniors and children walking and bicycling. The traffic from Connecticut is being diverted onto the side streets. In order to "protect" currently non-existent bicyclists on Connecticut you are endangering existent bicyclists and pedestrians that happen to predominenrly be small children and seniors. The two groups most vulnerable. The only way thr circle gets squared is if over 10,000 people magically give up cars and start bicycling into town. That is not going to happen.


So no one is closing streets. I guess that PP is wrong.


Lurker here. Maybe not yet, but it will be coming. Take a look at Connecticut Avenue up in the Chevy Chase area south of MD-410 (southbound). In that area, all or almost all of the side streets have signs that say that there is no right turn through the neighborhood from 7am-9am Mon-Fri. These are designed to discourage cut-through traffic. Once the bike lanes are created, the through-traffic lanes on Conn Ave are throttled and the traffic starts to flood the the surrounding streets like the Nile delta, then you can bet that neighborhoods will be clamoring to have the same type of cut-offs enabled to block commuters from flooding their streets. It may not be planned now, but it will logically flow that they will demand that those actions be taken, just like they were further north on the same street.

Before this type of change, e.g. throttling the major north-south commuter route, there really needs to be better planning for how to account for the same volume of traffic. Even if the volume of bikers doubles from 4% to 8% over the next 5-10 years, you are still going to significantly impact the commuter traffic giving them no viable alternatives. There is not going to be sufficient diversion from car traffic to combined metro and biking commuting that will prevent this from being a major massive commuter PITA for decades to come. Not only will this impact the car commuters, but it will also poorly affect those neighborhoods within 1-3 blocks of Conn Ave for many years. Those areas will become less safe due to increased car traffic. Without an adequate sidewalk network in the area, walkability on the side roads, plus less safety for strollers and kids on bikes will become a big problem.
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Anonymous wrote:Here is the list of ANC commissioners behind this plan.
- https://anc3c.org/commissioners/
- http://anc3f.com/about/
- https://anc3g.org/commission-as-a-whole/
- https://anc.dc.gov/page/advisory-neighborhood-commission-3e

These are the people that need to explain themselves.


It is a simple explanation. DDOT conducted a study to end reversible lanes and decide what the path is for the future. DDOT held a bunch of meetings, the ANC's and even SMD commissioners held meetings. The feedbacl was overhwelmingly in favor of "Option C," the Mayor based on the feedback from the public and the ANC's "great weight" chose option C and the Council funded it.

Again, the overwhelming majority of people who provided comments were in favor of it; with almost unanimity, the ANC Commissioners were in favor of it, and only one single Commissioner in the span of Connecticut Avenue from Woodley Park to Chevy Chase opposed it

If anything, at this point, the people who need to explain themselves are the ones who believe that cars are the future, that clogging roads with the most inefficient form of urban transportation is the path forward.


The mayor also closed the schools at the same time these meetings were occurring. Few parents had any bandwidth left to participate in this process because they were trying to juggle home school with work obligations. Most of the participants were young, childless, renters who have little if any skin in the game. This process was a complete fraud.


Oh yes, SIXTY public meetings plus the chance to submit written comments to DDOT is a "complete fraud." Designed to silence parents who spent $2 mil on their "1940s colonial" and to only hear those worthless renters.

Anyway, covid forced all public meetings to transition to virtual. This actually drastically increased the number of participants of all different opinions. Before, there would be like 3 people at ANC meetings. After, dozens or hundreds came online. Virtual made it significantly easier for parents to participate, actually.


You obviously do not have kids. Because if you did you’d still be recovering from the trauma of trying to juggle 8 simultaneously hours of Zoom calls for two working adults and two kids five days a week. The last thing parents wanted to deal with those two years was another Zoom call.


Yes, I do. And it was significantly easier to attend on Zoom than it is to have to go in person. Your claims are frankly absurd and just go to show the lengths to which people will go to complain. You're convincing nobody except yourself.


Give me a break. If you are a parent and you have time to pay attention to this stuff, you are the rare exception. People without kids have all the time in the world. People with kids, generally speaking, are just trying to keep their heads above water.


DP, hardly the rare exception. Most of the people I know who commented were parents with small children who wanted to be able to ride with their kids to school safely on a bike via Connecticut Avenue.
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Anonymous wrote:Here is the list of ANC commissioners behind this plan.
- https://anc3c.org/commissioners/
- http://anc3f.com/about/
- https://anc3g.org/commission-as-a-whole/
- https://anc.dc.gov/page/advisory-neighborhood-commission-3e

These are the people that need to explain themselves.


It is a simple explanation. DDOT conducted a study to end reversible lanes and decide what the path is for the future. DDOT held a bunch of meetings, the ANC's and even SMD commissioners held meetings. The feedbacl was overhwelmingly in favor of "Option C," the Mayor based on the feedback from the public and the ANC's "great weight" chose option C and the Council funded it.

Again, the overwhelming majority of people who provided comments were in favor of it; with almost unanimity, the ANC Commissioners were in favor of it, and only one single Commissioner in the span of Connecticut Avenue from Woodley Park to Chevy Chase opposed it

If anything, at this point, the people who need to explain themselves are the ones who believe that cars are the future, that clogging roads with the most inefficient form of urban transportation is the path forward.


The mayor also closed the schools at the same time these meetings were occurring. Few parents had any bandwidth left to participate in this process because they were trying to juggle home school with work obligations. Most of the participants were young, childless, renters who have little if any skin in the game. This process was a complete fraud.


Oh yes, SIXTY public meetings plus the chance to submit written comments to DDOT is a "complete fraud." Designed to silence parents who spent $2 mil on their "1940s colonial" and to only hear those worthless renters.

Anyway, covid forced all public meetings to transition to virtual. This actually drastically increased the number of participants of all different opinions. Before, there would be like 3 people at ANC meetings. After, dozens or hundreds came online. Virtual made it significantly easier for parents to participate, actually.


You obviously do not have kids. Because if you did you’d still be recovering from the trauma of trying to juggle 8 simultaneously hours of Zoom calls for two working adults and two kids five days a week. The last thing parents wanted to deal with those two years was another Zoom call.


Yes, I do. And it was significantly easier to attend on Zoom than it is to have to go in person. Your claims are frankly absurd and just go to show the lengths to which people will go to complain. You're convincing nobody except yourself.


Give me a break. If you are a parent and you have time to pay attention to this stuff, you are the rare exception. People without kids have all the time in the world. People with kids, generally speaking, are just trying to keep their heads above water.

As a parent, I absolutely can attend a community Zoom on my phone while cooking and serving dinner. I can't drag my kids 6 to 830pm to the local school or rec center to do nothing while I sit on a kid chair and watch a bunch of presentations and neighbors comments.


Exactly. And the funny thing is, I am actually pretty ambivalent about the existance of ANCs anyway. Arguably we should just get rid of them and let the city and ward-wide officials do their thing without the need for public input. The ANCs if anything give TOO MUCH opportunity for endless, endless public input.
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