A nickname for Saoirse

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:These Irish names are interesting-- would you still use it if it were spelled Sirsha or Seersha? I think the spelling intrigues moms-to-be more than the sound of the name sometimes.

In your area, are there more Siobhans than Shavonne? Or Chavonne? Shivon? Any Eefuhs? My guess is more people choose the Irish spellings, despite the fact that they make no sense to the typical American, just because it looks cool on paper.


You have totally nailed it!!
Anonymous
Saoirse is a bit of a loaded name and is very Irish nationalist. It only became popular there in the 1920s during the war of independence and is now the name of the newspaper of a formerly IRA-affiliated group that split with Sinn Fein during the Troubles because they thought Sinn Fein weren't militant enough.

My personal view is if you're not Irish enough to know that background, you're not Irish enough to inflict a name with that spelling and connotation onto an American kid. But I've got very strong opinions on baby naming.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These Irish names are interesting-- would you still use it if it were spelled Sirsha or Seersha? I think the spelling intrigues moms-to-be more than the sound of the name sometimes.

In your area, are there more Siobhans than Shavonne? Or Chavonne? Shivon? Any Eefuhs? My guess is more people choose the Irish spellings, despite the fact that they make no sense to the typical American, just because it looks cool on paper.


You have totally nailed it!!


I think so, too. It’s why there are people criticizing Orla in another thread, but embracing Saoirse.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:These Irish names are interesting-- would you still use it if it were spelled Sirsha or Seersha? I think the spelling intrigues moms-to-be more than the sound of the name sometimes.

In your area, are there more Siobhans than Shavonne? Or Chavonne? Shivon? Any Eefuhs? My guess is more people choose the Irish spellings, despite the fact that they make no sense to the typical American, just because it looks cool on paper.


I agree. I love the way they look. I think Siobhan is so lovely looking, but I would hate Shavonne.
Anonymous
Nicknames develops organically. You don’t pick them out before your child is born. And, now, 98% of America does not know how to pronounce it. Just millenials.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here, I'm genuinely surprised that people don't know how to pronounce it given how popular the actress Saoirse Ronan is and it's not really an uncommon name in the US anymore.


It actually is an uncommon name in the US.
Anonymous
Call her Sir.

Sir do you want another cookie?

Sir! No running in the street!

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Saoirse is a bit of a loaded name and is very Irish nationalist. It only became popular there in the 1920s during the war of independence and is now the name of the newspaper of a formerly IRA-affiliated group that split with Sinn Fein during the Troubles because they thought Sinn Fein weren't militant enough.

My personal view is if you're not Irish enough to know that background, you're not Irish enough to inflict a name with that spelling and connotation onto an American kid. But I've got very strong opinions on baby naming.


+1

And what's your last name, OP? Is it Irish or Scotch-Irish? Do you know the difference? Hint- just because it starts with Mc doesn't mean it's Irish.
-American whose cousin is a Sinn Fein politician
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Saoirse is a bit of a loaded name and is very Irish nationalist. It only became popular there in the 1920s during the war of independence and is now the name of the newspaper of a formerly IRA-affiliated group that split with Sinn Fein during the Troubles because they thought Sinn Fein weren't militant enough.

My personal view is if you're not Irish enough to know that background, you're not Irish enough to inflict a name with that spelling and connotation onto an American kid. But I've got very strong opinions on baby naming.


+1

And what's your last name, OP? Is it Irish or Scotch-Irish? Do you know the difference? Hint- just because it starts with Mc doesn't mean it's Irish.
-American whose cousin is a Sinn Fein politician


Oh give me a break. Now you are only allowed to use names associated with your culture IF you are deeply knowledgeable about that culture? What are your kids names?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here, I'm not asking because I don't like the name or think people won't know how to pronounce it, though I find it hard to believe people don't know how to pronounce it maybe 10 years ago, but certainly not now.

More asking is it one of those names that are easily teased or shortened to something unpleasant.


You're living in quite the bubble if you think any large number of people outside of Ireland know how to pronounce Saoirse.


Like me..No idea
I would call your kid SAM
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Saoirse is a bit of a loaded name and is very Irish nationalist. It only became popular there in the 1920s during the war of independence and is now the name of the newspaper of a formerly IRA-affiliated group that split with Sinn Fein during the Troubles because they thought Sinn Fein weren't militant enough.

My personal view is if you're not Irish enough to know that background, you're not Irish enough to inflict a name with that spelling and connotation onto an American kid. But I've got very strong opinions on baby naming.


+1

And what's your last name, OP? Is it Irish or Scotch-Irish? Do you know the difference? Hint- just because it starts with Mc doesn't mean it's Irish.
-American whose cousin is a Sinn Fein politician


Oh give me a break. Now you are only allowed to use names associated with your culture IF you are deeply knowledgeable about that culture? What are your kids names?


NP I agree with the previous posters- this is a very loaded name that means something. It's associated with an ideology. Like a Christian naming their kid Mohammed because it sounds cool.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Saoirse is a bit of a loaded name and is very Irish nationalist. It only became popular there in the 1920s during the war of independence and is now the name of the newspaper of a formerly IRA-affiliated group that split with Sinn Fein during the Troubles because they thought Sinn Fein weren't militant enough.

My personal view is if you're not Irish enough to know that background, you're not Irish enough to inflict a name with that spelling and connotation onto an American kid. But I've got very strong opinions on baby naming.


+1

And what's your last name, OP? Is it Irish or Scotch-Irish? Do you know the difference? Hint- just because it starts with Mc doesn't mean it's Irish.
-American whose cousin is a Sinn Fein politician


Oh give me a break. Now you are only allowed to use names associated with your culture IF you are deeply knowledgeable about that culture? What are your kids names?


NP I agree with the previous posters- this is a very loaded name that means something. It's associated with an ideology. Like a Christian naming their kid Mohammed because it sounds cool.


Well one is a God and the other is a word that means "Freedom" and is fairly popular in multiple countries. So no, not quite the same.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These Irish names are interesting-- would you still use it if it were spelled Sirsha or Seersha? I think the spelling intrigues moms-to-be more than the sound of the name sometimes.

In your area, are there more Siobhans than Shavonne? Or Chavonne? Shivon? Any Eefuhs? My guess is more people choose the Irish spellings, despite the fact that they make no sense to the typical American, just because it looks cool on paper.


You have totally nailed it!!


+1

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Saoirse is a bit of a loaded name and is very Irish nationalist. It only became popular there in the 1920s during the war of independence and is now the name of the newspaper of a formerly IRA-affiliated group that split with Sinn Fein during the Troubles because they thought Sinn Fein weren't militant enough.

My personal view is if you're not Irish enough to know that background, you're not Irish enough to inflict a name with that spelling and connotation onto an American kid. But I've got very strong opinions on baby naming.


+1

And what's your last name, OP? Is it Irish or Scotch-Irish? Do you know the difference? Hint- just because it starts with Mc doesn't mean it's Irish.
-American whose cousin is a Sinn Fein politician


Oh give me a break. Now you are only allowed to use names associated with your culture IF you are deeply knowledgeable about that culture? What are your kids names?


NP I agree with the previous posters- this is a very loaded name that means something. It's associated with an ideology. Like a Christian naming their kid Mohammed because it sounds cool.


Well one is a God and the other is a word that means "Freedom" and is fairly popular in multiple countries. So no, not quite the same.


DP but the meaning behind Saoirse is much more loaded than the simple word "freedom," but I'm guessing a person who thinks Mohammed is "a God" doesn't really care to think too deeply about her lack of understanding of other cultures.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I've never even heard of that name before OP.
Familiar with Siobhan.


I don't know any Saoirses, but I do know an Aoife and Siobhan.

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