What is special about New Market MD?

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Anonymous wrote:I am still laughing over the Rockville is Affluent comment.

How is Rockville not affluent? RM and especially Wootton cluster are very affluent areas overall. There’s slightly more low-income housing in the RM part of Rockville, but the other 80% of kids at RM come from very affluent backgrounds.

OP asked specifically about RM.

There are some affluent areas in the RM cluster, but there are also not so affluent areas. RM has 25% of FARMs and 7.4 ESOL rate. That does not mean that 75% of RM cluster is affluent.

What's the ESOL rate in New Market schools?

RM is not as affluent as the W schools or B-CC, but it’s more affluent than any school in Frederick County. No hate on Frederick County, and I’m in no way trying to imply that RM is a better school because it is more affluent, but arguing that Urbana and Linganore are more affluent than Wootton or RM is just silly, especially when home prices are much higher in the latter two areas.

Except the data does not support that.

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Anonymous wrote:I am still laughing over the Rockville is Affluent comment.

How is Rockville not affluent? RM and especially Wootton cluster are very affluent areas overall. There’s slightly more low-income housing in the RM part of Rockville, but the other 80% of kids at RM come from very affluent backgrounds.

OP asked specifically about RM.

There are some affluent areas in the RM cluster, but there are also not so affluent areas. RM has 25% of FARMs and 7.4 ESOL rate. That does not mean that 75% of RM cluster is affluent.

What's the ESOL rate in New Market schools?

RM is not as affluent as the W schools or B-CC, but it’s more affluent than any school in Frederick County. No hate on Frederick County, and I’m in no way trying to imply that RM is a better school because it is more affluent, but arguing that Urbana and Linganore are more affluent than Wootton or RM is just silly, especially when home prices are much higher in the latter two areas.

Except the data does not support that.

What data? Show me where $1M townhomes are selling in the Villages of Urbana or in Linganore. You can get a large new construction SFH there for under $800k, and there’s already data showing that when you take young renters out of Rockville’s equation, it IS more affluent than New Market.

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From another thread on DCUM: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/60/939193.page

“ My sister moved from Moco (Richard Montgomery cluster) to Landsdale and commuted into DC twice a week. She quit. It's just a terrible commute and not easy to get to 270 at all. She loves her new home and likes her neighbors but still complains about the school; and how it's not challenging enough; and yes, not diverse enough. Her kid's school (Linganore HS) has like 2% black kids. Now she's complaining and saying that she should've just stayed or moved to Clarksburg or Urbana for a newer home.”

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Anonymous wrote:I am still laughing over the Rockville is Affluent comment.

How is Rockville not affluent? RM and especially Wootton cluster are very affluent areas overall. There’s slightly more low-income housing in the RM part of Rockville, but the other 80% of kids at RM come from very affluent backgrounds.

OP asked specifically about RM.

There are some affluent areas in the RM cluster, but there are also not so affluent areas. RM has 25% of FARMs and 7.4 ESOL rate. That does not mean that 75% of RM cluster is affluent.

What's the ESOL rate in New Market schools?

RM is not as affluent as the W schools or B-CC, but it’s more affluent than any school in Frederick County. No hate on Frederick County, and I’m in no way trying to imply that RM is a better school because it is more affluent, but arguing that Urbana and Linganore are more affluent than Wootton or RM is just silly, especially when home prices are much higher in the latter two areas.

Except the data does not support that.

What data? Show me where $1M townhomes are selling in the Villages of Urbana or in Linganore. You can get a large new construction SFH there for under $800k, and there’s already data showing that when you take young renters out of Rockville’s equation, it IS more affluent than New Market.

I think you are missing the point about the comparison. Yes, Rockville has some expensive areas, but it also has more poorer areas than NM, as reflected in the FARMs rate in that cluster (25%) vs in NM (someone stated 8% or something similar).

As a PP mentioned, it's more expensive to live in MoCo than FC, so a person making $60K in Rockville is comparatively "poorer' than someone making $60K in FC.

Rockville is more expensive overall, but that's why there are more low income families in Rockville compared to NM.

Then there is the ESOL numbers in RM cluster compared to NM.

All of this plays into the GS ratings.

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Anonymous wrote:I am still laughing over the Rockville is Affluent comment.

How is Rockville not affluent? RM and especially Wootton cluster are very affluent areas overall. There’s slightly more low-income housing in the RM part of Rockville, but the other 80% of kids at RM come from very affluent backgrounds.

Rockville is where the handimen and divorced dads live

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Anonymous wrote:I am still laughing over the Rockville is Affluent comment.

How is Rockville not affluent? RM and especially Wootton cluster are very affluent areas overall. There’s slightly more low-income housing in the RM part of Rockville, but the other 80% of kids at RM come from very affluent backgrounds.

OP asked specifically about RM.

There are some affluent areas in the RM cluster, but there are also not so affluent areas. RM has 25% of FARMs and 7.4 ESOL rate. That does not mean that 75% of RM cluster is affluent.

What's the ESOL rate in New Market schools?

RM is not as affluent as the W schools or B-CC, but it’s more affluent than any school in Frederick County. No hate on Frederick County, and I’m in no way trying to imply that RM is a better school because it is more affluent, but arguing that Urbana and Linganore are more affluent than Wootton or RM is just silly, especially when home prices are much higher in the latter two areas.

Except the data does not support that.

What data? Show me where $1M townhomes are selling in the Villages of Urbana or in Linganore. You can get a large new construction SFH there for under $800k, and there’s already data showing that when you take young renters out of Rockville’s equation, it IS more affluent than New Market.

I think you are missing the point about the comparison. Yes, Rockville has some expensive areas, but it also has more poorer areas than NM, as reflected in the FARMs rate in that cluster (25%) vs in NM (someone stated 8% or something similar).

As a PP mentioned, it's more expensive to live in MoCo than FC, so a person making $60K in Rockville is comparatively "poorer' than someone making $60K in FC.

Rockville is more expensive overall, but that's why there are more low income families in Rockville compared to NM.

Then there is the ESOL numbers in RM cluster compared to NM.

All of this plays into the GS ratings.

Im the PP you quoted. Although not mentioned as often as MoCo or HoCo schools, Frederick County schools are also very similar in quality and they do a very good job at serving their disadvantaged students. I don’t think negatively of them for being less affluent at all. But still, Rockville has a higher per capita income and is overall more white collar than Frederick.

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Anonymous wrote:I am still laughing over the Rockville is Affluent comment.

How is Rockville not affluent? RM and especially Wootton cluster are very affluent areas overall. There’s slightly more low-income housing in the RM part of Rockville, but the other 80% of kids at RM come from very affluent backgrounds.

OP asked specifically about RM.

There are some affluent areas in the RM cluster, but there are also not so affluent areas. RM has 25% of FARMs and 7.4 ESOL rate. That does not mean that 75% of RM cluster is affluent.

What's the ESOL rate in New Market schools?

RM is not as affluent as the W schools or B-CC, but it’s more affluent than any school in Frederick County. No hate on Frederick County, and I’m in no way trying to imply that RM is a better school because it is more affluent, but arguing that Urbana and Linganore are more affluent than Wootton or RM is just silly, especially when home prices are much higher in the latter two areas.

Except the data does not support that.

What data? Show me where $1M townhomes are selling in the Villages of Urbana or in Linganore. You can get a large new construction SFH there for under $800k, and there’s already data showing that when you take young renters out of Rockville’s equation, it IS more affluent than New Market.

Median HHI is greater in New market … housing cost does not work towards affluence it actually works against it because you have less $$$ for the extras in life.

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What about Fulton or Clarksville for a Bethesda/Baltimore commute?

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Anonymous wrote:What about Fulton or Clarksville for a Bethesda/Baltimore commute?

Ignoring the above bickering about affluence…I am curious why OP is more interested in Frederick than HoCo, given commutes. Doesn’t take them too far from the family/friends mentioned.

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Anonymous wrote:Where are you working? You do NOT want to have a commute on 270 south...no school choice is worth that hell.

One parent in Bethesda, one parent in Baltimore with family/friends around Frederick and Rockville areas.

What about Howard County?

Can you suggest their best schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Where are you working? You do NOT want to have a commute on 270 south...no school choice is worth that hell.

One parent in Bethesda, one parent in Baltimore with family/friends around Frederick and Rockville areas.

What about Howard County?

One of you needs to get another job. Unless the one job has generous work from home policy

OP, another vote for Howard County. You’ll get commutes under an hour for both of you. Columbia was basically created for couples like you and has a lot of amenities. Less than/right around a half hour to Rockville and then about 40 minutes to Frederick on weekends. Easy hops into Baltimore and DC as well. The 270 commute is truly brutal.

As you figure out mortgage options, if that appeals, remember that HoCo’s jumbo threshold is lower than that for MoCo and Frederick County.

I was also thinking of Columbia. But school ratings are lower. Atholton shows only 7, Oakdale 9 and Urbana 10

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There is no way ever that the rankings are equal in such different areas! LOL!
RM is an excellent school.

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Anonymous wrote:Where are you working? You do NOT want to have a commute on 270 south...no school choice is worth that hell.

One parent in Bethesda, one parent in Baltimore with family/friends around Frederick and Rockville areas.

What about Howard County?

Can you suggest their best schools?

River Hill

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way ever that the rankings are equal in such different areas! LOL!
RM is an excellent school.

This might be the most down-county post on DCUM ever.

Forget the job loss, forget the school rankings, forget the poverty....there is no way that Frederick county beats MoCo at something!

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way ever that the rankings are equal in such different areas! LOL!
RM is an excellent school.

This might be the most down-county post on DCUM ever.

Forget the job loss, forget the school rankings, forget the poverty....there is no way that Frederick county beats MoCo at something!

Didn't say MoCo, I said RM. That school has an awesome IB magnet.