What is special about New Market MD?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised people here think New Market is more affluent than Rockville. Richard Montgomery is a much more affluent school than Urbana, Linganore, and Oakdale and home prices are significantly higher in RM. RM does have a slightly higher percentage of FARMS, but it’s still a low-poverty school. Looking at it, Frederick County schools seemingly have the upper hand in standardized exams, which gives them their high GS rankings, but RM looks like a much better school in terms of kids taking and passing AP exams.

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/rockville-md

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/new-market-md

Higher median income with lower cost of living is more affluent

No shit. One has a population of 67,000 people and the other 1,550?
Apples to oranges comparison.

Yea we are comparing apples and oranges.

This is why New Market is better it’s easier to educate a small population.

New market is an area of Frederick. It is educated by FCPS. It's not independent. It's not better.

Rm is double the size of Oakdale and yes, it’s easier to manage a small HS than a huge HS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Urbana/new market/etc are highly educated/mostly liberal/lacks diversity but growing area of frederick.

The schools reflect that.

Otoh - I’m surprised Richard Montgomery is so low. Even if you don’t do IB/magnet the school is very good.

I know a ton of people in Urbana and they love it.

Nope. Mostly lean conservative

I think the most accurate answer here is the area is purple. The influx of new folks, many of whom are coming from the DC area, may change the political demographics more and more. And if it matters to OP, I beeeliiieve New Market and such are all in the 8th district (Raskin) for the U.S. House. But while Frederick County went for Trump in 2016 and then flipped for Biden in 2020...the state officials are typically GOP.

Frederick is purple

New Market and Urbana are blue

I mean, OK, but at the end of the day they're represented by four GOP electeds in the statehouse. (Well, five if you count the Governor's office right now...)

Frederick, which I think is in District 3, has a Dem State Senator right?

Just all speaks to a very purple area to me.

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I am still laughing over the Rockville is Affluent comment.

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Anonymous wrote:I am still laughing over the Rockville is Affluent comment.

How is Rockville not affluent? RM and especially Wootton cluster are very affluent areas overall. There’s slightly more low-income housing in the RM part of Rockville, but the other 80% of kids at RM come from very affluent backgrounds.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised people here think New Market is more affluent than Rockville. Richard Montgomery is a much more affluent school than Urbana, Linganore, and Oakdale and home prices are significantly higher in RM. RM does have a slightly higher percentage of FARMS, but it’s still a low-poverty school. Looking at it, Frederick County schools seemingly have the upper hand in standardized exams, which gives them their high GS rankings, but RM looks like a much better school in terms of kids taking and passing AP exams.

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/rockville-md

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/new-market-md

Higher median income with lower cost of living is more affluent

Rockville covers a larger area and a larger population. Rockville has a slightly larger population of low-income people and a much larger population of young renters who make the overall income for Rockville lower. However, Rockville’s family income is still $156,838, which is more affluent than New Market. It’s also significantly more college educated than New Market. 37% of Rockville’s residents have a graduate degree, but only 17% of New Market residents do.

Urbana and New Market are solidly UMC and have almost 0 poor people, but that’s kind of what happens when you have nothing but $700k homes on former farmland.

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New Market is in the middle of nowhere and very insular in thought processes. Schools are ok not amazing.

Rockville schools are much better no matter what those data sets say.

These two are not in the same stratosphere.

Urbana schools are way overcrowded. Traffic is horrible. Again no diversity.

What do you expect?
DC area is unique and international, like a bubble of it's own.
New Market is more American, more like what the rest of the country and state is like

No, it is not. The state is not 80% white nor is America.

What statistics are you looking at?
Southern states vs Minnesota, Wyoming?
Alabama has towns with 0 white people, Milwaukee is segregated
Most of the state or country is nothing like Rockville

[Anonymous]

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New Market is in the middle of nowhere and very insular in thought processes. Schools are ok not amazing.

Rockville schools are much better no matter what those data sets say.

These two are not in the same stratosphere.

Urbana schools are way overcrowded. Traffic is horrible. Again no diversity.

What do you expect?
DC area is unique and international, like a bubble of it's own.
New Market is more American, more like what the rest of the country and state is like

No, it is not. The state is not 80% white nor is America.

What statistics are you looking at?
Southern states vs Minnesota, Wyoming?
Alabama has towns with 0 white people, Milwaukee is segregated
Most of the state or country is nothing like Rockville

Huh????
Maryland is only 58% white
US is 73% white.

[Anonymous]

Actually try the commute during rush hour to and from both locations. New Market to Bethesda would be at least 75 minutes during rush hour - probably more like 90 minutes. Each way? Is that something you want to do? (I wouldn't)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised people here think New Market is more affluent than Rockville. Richard Montgomery is a much more affluent school than Urbana, Linganore, and Oakdale and home prices are significantly higher in RM. RM does have a slightly higher percentage of FARMS, but it’s still a low-poverty school. Looking at it, Frederick County schools seemingly have the upper hand in standardized exams, which gives them their high GS rankings, but RM looks like a much better school in terms of kids taking and passing AP exams.

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/rockville-md

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/new-market-md

Higher median income with lower cost of living is more affluent

Rockville covers a larger area and a larger population. Rockville has a slightly larger population of low-income people and a much larger population of young renters who make the overall income for Rockville lower. However, Rockville’s family income is still $156,838, which is more affluent than New Market. It’s also significantly more college educated than New Market. 37% of Rockville’s residents have a graduate degree, but only 17% of New Market residents do.


I think you are reading the charts wrong

median income Rockville $106K new Market $146K
Bachelors degree: R: 40% Frederick county: 48%
Graduate degree: R: 31% FC: 30%

https://www.towncharts.com/Maryland/Education/Rockville-city-MD-Education-data.html

https://www.towncharts.com/Maryland/Education/21774-Zipcode-MD-Education-data.html

Note: education data is gor Frederick County (NM is too small of an area)


Urbana and New Market are solidly UMC and have almost 0 poor people, but that’s kind of what happens when you have nothing but $700k homes on former farmland.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised people here think New Market is more affluent than Rockville. Richard Montgomery is a much more affluent school than Urbana, Linganore, and Oakdale and home prices are significantly higher in RM. RM does have a slightly higher percentage of FARMS, but it’s still a low-poverty school. Looking at it, Frederick County schools seemingly have the upper hand in standardized exams, which gives them their high GS rankings, but RM looks like a much better school in terms of kids taking and passing AP exams.

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/rockville-md

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/new-market-md

Higher median income with lower cost of living is more affluent

Rockville covers a larger area and a larger population. Rockville has a slightly larger population of low-income people and a much larger population of young renters who make the overall income for Rockville lower. However, Rockville’s family income is still $156,838, which is more affluent than New Market. It’s also significantly more college educated than New Market. 37% of Rockville’s residents have a graduate degree, but only 17% of New Market residents do.

Urbana and New Market are solidly UMC and have almost 0 poor people, but that’s kind of what happens when you have nothing but $700k homes on former farmland.

I think you are reading the charts wrong

median income Rockville $106K new Market $146K
Bachelors degree: R: 40% Frederick county: 48%
Graduate degree: R: 31% FC: 30%

https://www.towncharts.com/Maryland/Education/Rock...le-city-MD-Education-data.html

https://www.towncharts.com/Maryland/Education/2177...Zipcode-MD-Education-data.html

Note: education data is gor Frederick County (NM is too small of an area)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am still laughing over the Rockville is Affluent comment.

How is Rockville not affluent? RM and especially Wootton cluster are very affluent areas overall. There’s slightly more low-income housing in the RM part of Rockville, but the other 80% of kids at RM come from very affluent backgrounds.

OP asked specifically about RM.

There are some affluent areas in the RM cluster, but there are also not so affluent areas. RM has 25% of FARMs and 7.4 ESOL rate. That does not mean that 75% of RM cluster is affluent.

What's the ESOL rate in New Market schools?

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They are very different. Rockville is a suburb of DC with very ugly architecture but a direct public transit commute and a more diverse population. New Market is a small town with more developments making it a suburb of Frederick. Both places have better rated schools than the cities they are suburbs of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised people here think New Market is more affluent than Rockville. Richard Montgomery is a much more affluent school than Urbana, Linganore, and Oakdale and home prices are significantly higher in RM. RM does have a slightly higher percentage of FARMS, but it’s still a low-poverty school. Looking at it, Frederick County schools seemingly have the upper hand in standardized exams, which gives them their high GS rankings, but RM looks like a much better school in terms of kids taking and passing AP exams.

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/rockville-md

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/new-market-md

Higher median income with lower cost of living is more affluent

Rockville covers a larger area and a larger population. Rockville has a slightly larger population of low-income people and a much larger population of young renters who make the overall income for Rockville lower. However, Rockville’s family income is still $156,838, which is more affluent than New Market. It’s also significantly more college educated than New Market. 37% of Rockville’s residents have a graduate degree, but only 17% of New Market residents do.


Those stats aren’t right. 65% of Rockville residents have at least a bachelor’s degree according to the census:

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/rockvillecitymaryland


Urbana and New Market are solidly UMC and have almost 0 poor people, but that’s kind of what happens when you have nothing but $700k homes on former farmland.

I think you are reading the charts wrong

median income Rockville $106K new Market $146K
Bachelors degree: R: 40% Frederick county: 48%
Graduate degree: R: 31% FC: 30%

https://www.towncharts.com/Maryland/Education/Rock...le-city-MD-Education-data.html

https://www.towncharts.com/Maryland/Education/2177...Zipcode-MD-Education-data.html

Note: education data is gor Frederick County (NM is too small of an area)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised people here think New Market is more affluent than Rockville. Richard Montgomery is a much more affluent school than Urbana, Linganore, and Oakdale and home prices are significantly higher in RM. RM does have a slightly higher percentage of FARMS, but it’s still a low-poverty school. Looking at it, Frederick County schools seemingly have the upper hand in standardized exams, which gives them their high GS rankings, but RM looks like a much better school in terms of kids taking and passing AP exams.

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/rockville-md

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/new-market-md

Higher median income with lower cost of living is more affluent

Rockville covers a larger area and a larger population. Rockville has a slightly larger population of low-income people and a much larger population of young renters who make the overall income for Rockville lower. However, Rockville’s family income is still $156,838, which is more affluent than New Market. It’s also significantly more college educated than New Market. 37% of Rockville’s residents have a graduate degree, but only 17% of New Market residents do.

Urbana and New Market are solidly UMC and have almost 0 poor people, but that’s kind of what happens when you have nothing but $700k homes on former farmland.

I think you are reading the charts wrong

median income Rockville $106K new Market $146K
Bachelors degree: R: 40% Frederick county: 48%
Graduate degree: R: 31% FC: 30%

https://www.towncharts.com/Maryland/Education/Rock...le-city-MD-Education-data.html

https://www.towncharts.com/Maryland/Education/2177...Zipcode-MD-Education-data.html

Note: education data is gor Frederick County (NM is too small of an area)

Those stats are incorrect; 65% of Rockville residents have at least a bachelor’s degree according to the census:

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/rockvillecitymaryland

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I am still laughing over the Rockville is Affluent comment.

How is Rockville not affluent? RM and especially Wootton cluster are very affluent areas overall. There’s slightly more low-income housing in the RM part of Rockville, but the other 80% of kids at RM come from very affluent backgrounds.

OP asked specifically about RM.

There are some affluent areas in the RM cluster, but there are also not so affluent areas. RM has 25% of FARMs and 7.4 ESOL rate. That does not mean that 75% of RM cluster is affluent.

What's the ESOL rate in New Market schools?

RM is not as affluent as the W schools or B-CC, but it’s more affluent than any school in Frederick County. No hate on Frederick County, and I’m in no way trying to imply that RM is a better school because it is more affluent, but arguing that Urbana and Linganore are more affluent than Wootton or RM is just silly, especially when home prices are much higher in the latter two areas.