Marijuana Officially Legal in VA

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What do you do if you’re healthy and just want to get stoned?

For now, get it in DC. At least it will be legal when you possess it and use it in VA.

You cannot legally purchase weed in DC. That is a crime.

But you can purchase a coupon. And you receive a free "gift". There are plenty of storefronts in DC now, you just need to be 21+.

That is also illegal. The "gift" is provided inconsideration of the purchase of the "coupon". If they do not provide a free "gift" to anyone that asks, then it is an illegal transaction.

The city doesn't seem to see it that way...

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Nobody cares.

You should care. The problem with the current situation is that they can decide to enforce it at any time and against anybody rather indiscriminately. Anyone who purchases marijuana - regardless of whether it was a straw transaction for a "coupon" - leaves themselves vulnerable to future Federal charges. This is not like speeding or jaywalking where they need to catch you in the act. They can bring indictments years into the future.

Bring on the indictments!

For real. Good luck proving that I bought a comic book at a head shop, got a free gift, and took my gram of cannabis to Virginia.

Do you trust all of your friends well enough to lie to a Federal agent on your behalf? Committing crimes themselves?

There’s so much you don’t understand about law and reality it’s incredible.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread clearly has only one person on it who buys and uses weed. It’s insanely easy to get it, regardless of your opinion on the free gift system. I imagine that the same ways we get it in DC will quickly extend to VA.

Except that VA has now paved the way for recreational use and stores will be open in 2024. No need to make donations enter raffles for the “free gift”.

Yes. VA has legalized full recreational use, which means that there is no need for straw purchases. However, it is still not federally legal and you can still be denied a security clearance if you legally purchase and use it in VA.

Who cares? Are you really that sheltered that you don’t understand that most people do not work for the Feds?

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Anonymous wrote:Big question to me is who will be the first jurisdiction in our area to have retail sales. I’m betting on NJ.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/virginia-weed-marijuana-new-laws-july-1-commonwealth-legalization-fact-check-explained/65-229dcb4b-7f9d-4adc-9e2d-d8ff6764824f

Maryland is actually first, but you need a state medical marijuana card. I’ve been told that they are relatively easy to get, but as with everything in Maryland they prefer to make things more complicated than they need to be.

MD does not sell recreational marijuana, that is what VA has approved - similar to CO. They currently have the same medical sale requirements as VA does currently. Both have retail stores and require medical cards for purchase.

When’s the retail stores coming?

Retail stores are already open in both VA and MD if you have a medical MJ card.

But what if you don’t have any sort of medical condition or malady that is treatable with MJ? What do you do if you’re healthy and just want to get stoned? What are you supposed to do then? Because those people are just SOL it seems.

The stores might have a list of doctors who will happily prescribe cannabis for headaches or stress or anything.

So we can now admit that the whole medical MJ thing was just a sham to get stoners their bud!

Bingo!

You didn’t have to lie about it this whole time.

How do you feel about alcohol being legal pretty much anywhere in the country?


Are you saying that the existence of opportunists means that marijuana is NOT a useful substance for countless people suffering things like glaucoma, aids, chemo, chronic pain, insomnia, anxiety, ptsd...

I’m not saying MJ doesn’t have some legitimate limited uses, because I’ve witnessed that myself.

What I am saying is that it’s not a cure-all for everything it’s being lauded for. Everything from anxiety to headaches to PTSD to menstrual cramps to colds and flu - seriously, it sounds like a 1890’s snake oil patent medicine. And stoners are doing a disservice to the limited amount of people who actually DO benefit from medical MJ because they’re trying to jump on that wagon.

Stop with the bullshit and lies. Just be honest about it. You wanna get high. No one drinks alcohol for the medicinal benefits (spare me the “red wine cholesterol derp- you can drink grape juice with no ethanol in it and get the same benefit) . They drink it because they like the alcohol. Same with weed. It doesn’t do a better job of easing your period cramps than midol.

Stoners lie. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What do you do if you’re healthy and just want to get stoned?

For now, get it in DC. At least it will be legal when you possess it and use it in VA.

You cannot legally purchase weed in DC. That is a crime.

But you can purchase a coupon. And you receive a free "gift". There are plenty of storefronts in DC now, you just need to be 21+.

That is also illegal. The "gift" is provided inconsideration of the purchase of the "coupon". If they do not provide a free "gift" to anyone that asks, then it is an illegal transaction.

The city doesn't seem to see it that way...

+1
Nobody cares.

You should care. The problem with the current situation is that they can decide to enforce it at any time and against anybody rather indiscriminately. Anyone who purchases marijuana - regardless of whether it was a straw transaction for a "coupon" - leaves themselves vulnerable to future Federal charges. This is not like speeding or jaywalking where they need to catch you in the act. They can bring indictments years into the future.

Bring on the indictments!

For real. Good luck proving that I bought a comic book at a head shop, got a free gift, and took my gram of cannabis to Virginia.

Do you trust all of your friends well enough to lie to a Federal agent on your behalf? Committing crimes themselves?

There’s so much you don’t understand about law and reality it’s incredible.

Ok. Please explain to me what I don’t understand.

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Anonymous wrote:

What do you do if you’re healthy and just want to get stoned?

For now, get it in DC. At least it will be legal when you possess it and use it in VA.

You cannot legally purchase weed in DC. That is a crime.

But you can purchase a coupon. And you receive a free "gift". There are plenty of storefronts in DC now, you just need to be 21+.

That is also illegal. The "gift" is provided inconsideration of the purchase of the "coupon". If they do not provide a free "gift" to anyone that asks, then it is an illegal transaction.

The city doesn't seem to see it that way...

+1
Nobody cares.

You should care. The problem with the current situation is that they can decide to enforce it at any time and against anybody rather indiscriminately. Anyone who purchases marijuana - regardless of whether it was a straw transaction for a "coupon" - leaves themselves vulnerable to future Federal charges. This is not like speeding or jaywalking where they need to catch you in the act. They can bring indictments years into the future.

Bring on the indictments!

For real. Good luck proving that I bought a comic book at a head shop, got a free gift, and took my gram of cannabis to Virginia.

Do you trust all of your friends well enough to lie to a Federal agent on your behalf? Committing crimes themselves?

There’s so much you don’t understand about law and reality it’s incredible.

Ok. Please explain to me what I don’t understand.

I’ll be charged with prior possession of one gram of cannabis with no evidence other than the word of someone else?

You think this is the kind of stuff that federal drug officers will ever be spending their time on?

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I like that states are thumbing their noses at the federal govt when it comes to stuff like weed legalization and sanctuary city polices.

Refusing to cooperate with the feds on matters like this sets a fantastic precedent for other states to reject any future federal gun laws and bans.

The funny part is how the very same people who are applauding Colorado and California for legalizing weed and refusing to cooperate with ICE are also the very same people screeching about Missouri and other states refusing to abide by any future federal gun bans.



Thanks for the precedents!!!! Love ya!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What do you do if you’re healthy and just want to get stoned?

For now, get it in DC. At least it will be legal when you possess it and use it in VA.

You cannot legally purchase weed in DC. That is a crime.

But you can purchase a coupon. And you receive a free "gift". There are plenty of storefronts in DC now, you just need to be 21+.

That is also illegal. The "gift" is provided inconsideration of the purchase of the "coupon". If they do not provide a free "gift" to anyone that asks, then it is an illegal transaction.

The city doesn't seem to see it that way...

+1
Nobody cares.

You should care. The problem with the current situation is that they can decide to enforce it at any time and against anybody rather indiscriminately. Anyone who purchases marijuana - regardless of whether it was a straw transaction for a "coupon" - leaves themselves vulnerable to future Federal charges. This is not like speeding or jaywalking where they need to catch you in the act. They can bring indictments years into the future.

Bring on the indictments!

For real. Good luck proving that I bought a comic book at a head shop, got a free gift, and took my gram of cannabis to Virginia.

Do you trust all of your friends well enough to lie to a Federal agent on your behalf? Committing crimes themselves?

There’s so much you don’t understand about law and reality it’s incredible.

Ok. Please explain to me what I don’t understand.

I’ll be charged with prior possession of one gram of cannabis with no evidence other than the word of someone else?

You think this is the kind of stuff that federal drug officers will ever be spending their time on?

You told me that there was something that I did not understand about the law. But you have not actually said anything that would enlighten me about my lack of knowledge.

The point I made in reference to your friends and your response underscores that you don’t understand how federal security clearance investigations work. Regardless of whether or not your legal liability will be realized, this conduct may have future ramifications related to employment and ability to obtain public benefits. It is behavior indicative of someone that should not receive a position or benefit related to public trust.

While it may not be a significant cost-benefit in terms of investigatory resources to go after customers of these businesses. It is not impossible, particularly where there may be records of transactions that could corroborate eye witness testimony, accompanied by cell phone locational data. But beyond that, you have a lot of confidence in the idea that if you were ever criminally charged with limited circumstantial evidence that somehow you would prevail. It’s quite naive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread clearly has only one person on it who buys and uses weed. It’s insanely easy to get it, regardless of your opinion on the free gift system. I imagine that the same ways we get it in DC will quickly extend to VA.

Except that VA has now paved the way for recreational use and stores will be open in 2024. No need to make donations enter raffles for the “free gift”.

Yes. VA has legalized full recreational use, which means that there is no need for straw purchases. However, it is still not federally legal and you can still be denied a security clearance if you legally purchase and use it in VA.

Who cares? Are you really that sheltered that you don’t understand that most people do not work for the Feds?

Around the DMV, a lot of people work for the feds. And there are also a lot of private contractors whose employees need to hold security clearances. And even if you don’t work for the feds or a contractor now, you may want to do so in the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread clearly has only one person on it who buys and uses weed. It’s insanely easy to get it, regardless of your opinion on the free gift system. I imagine that the same ways we get it in DC will quickly extend to VA.

Except that VA has now paved the way for recreational use and stores will be open in 2024. No need to make donations enter raffles for the “free gift”.

Yes. VA has legalized full recreational use, which means that there is no need for straw purchases. However, it is still not federally legal and you can still be denied a security clearance if you legally purchase and use it in VA.

Who cares? Are you really that sheltered that you don’t understand that most people do not work for the Feds?

Around the DMV, a lot of people work for the feds. And there are also a lot of private contractors whose employees need to hold security clearances. And even if you don’t work for the feds or a contractor now, you may want to do so in the future.

Again, most people do not work for the Feds. Or Fed contractors. Your endless harping on clearances is so bizarre. Get out of your gov bubble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Big question to me is who will be the first jurisdiction in our area to have retail sales. I’m betting on NJ.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/virginia-weed-marijuana-new-laws-july-1-commonwealth-legalization-fact-check-explained/65-229dcb4b-7f9d-4adc-9e2d-d8ff6764824f

Maryland is actually first, but you need a state medical marijuana card. I’ve been told that they are relatively easy to get, but as with everything in Maryland they prefer to make things more complicated than they need to be.

MD does not sell recreational marijuana, that is what VA has approved - similar to CO. They currently have the same medical sale requirements as VA does currently. Both have retail stores and require medical cards for purchase.

When’s the retail stores coming?

Retail stores are already open in both VA and MD if you have a medical MJ card.

But what if you don’t have any sort of medical condition or malady that is treatable with MJ? What do you do if you’re healthy and just want to get stoned? What are you supposed to do then? Because those people are just SOL it seems.

The stores might have a list of doctors who will happily prescribe cannabis for headaches or stress or anything.

So we can now admit that the whole medical MJ thing was just a sham to get stoners their bud!

Bingo!

You didn’t have to lie about it this whole time.

Are you saying that the existence of opportunists means that marijuana is NOT a useful substance for countless people suffering things like glaucoma, aids, chemo, chronic pain, insomnia, anxiety, ptsd...

I’m not saying MJ doesn’t have some legitimate limited uses, because I’ve witnessed that myself.

What I am saying is that it’s not a cure-all for everything it’s being lauded for. Everything from anxiety to headaches to PTSD to menstrual cramps to colds and flu - seriously, it sounds like a 1890’s snake oil patent medicine. And stoners are doing a disservice to the limited amount of people who actually DO benefit from medical MJ because they’re trying to jump on that wagon.

Stop with the bullshit and lies. Just be honest about it. You wanna get high. No one drinks alcohol for the medicinal benefits (spare me the “red wine cholesterol derp- you can drink grape juice with no ethanol in it and get the same benefit) . They drink it because they like the alcohol. Same with weed. It doesn’t do a better job of easing your period cramps than midol.

Stoners lie. Period.

Still mad that people who use weed can be more productive members of society than you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread clearly has only one person on it who buys and uses weed. It’s insanely easy to get it, regardless of your opinion on the free gift system. I imagine that the same ways we get it in DC will quickly extend to VA.

Except that VA has now paved the way for recreational use and stores will be open in 2024. No need to make donations enter raffles for the “free gift”.

Yes. VA has legalized full recreational use, which means that there is no need for straw purchases. However, it is still not federally legal and you can still be denied a security clearance if you legally purchase and use it in VA.

Who cares? Are you really that sheltered that you don’t understand that most people do not work for the Feds?

Around the DMV, a lot of people work for the feds. And there are also a lot of private contractors whose employees need to hold security clearances. And even if you don’t work for the feds or a contractor now, you may want to do so in the future.

Again, most people do not work for the Feds. Or Fed contractors. Your endless harping on clearances is so bizarre. Get out of your gov bubble.

It’s the contractor jobs that are the real killer. Want to work in IT in the entire region? Better not smoke weed.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What do you do if you’re healthy and just want to get stoned?

For now, get it in DC. At least it will be legal when you possess it and use it in VA.

You cannot legally purchase weed in DC. That is a crime.

But you can purchase a coupon. And you receive a free "gift". There are plenty of storefronts in DC now, you just need to be 21+.

That is also illegal. The "gift" is provided inconsideration of the purchase of the "coupon". If they do not provide a free "gift" to anyone that asks, then it is an illegal transaction.

The city doesn't seem to see it that way...

+1
Nobody cares.

You should care. The problem with the current situation is that they can decide to enforce it at any time and against anybody rather indiscriminately. Anyone who purchases marijuana - regardless of whether it was a straw transaction for a "coupon" - leaves themselves vulnerable to future Federal charges. This is not like speeding or jaywalking where they need to catch you in the act. They can bring indictments years into the future.

Bring on the indictments!

For real. Good luck proving that I bought a comic book at a head shop, got a free gift, and took my gram of cannabis to Virginia.

Do you trust all of your friends well enough to lie to a Federal agent on your behalf? Committing crimes themselves?

There’s so much you don’t understand about law and reality it’s incredible.

Ok. Please explain to me what I don’t understand.

I’ll be charged with prior possession of one gram of cannabis with no evidence other than the word of someone else?

You think this is the kind of stuff that federal drug officers will ever be spending their time on?

You told me that there was something that I did not understand about the law. But you have not actually said anything that would enlighten me about my lack of knowledge.

The point I made in reference to your friends and your response underscores that you don’t understand how federal security clearance investigations work. Regardless of whether or not your legal liability will be realized, this conduct may have future ramifications related to employment and ability to obtain public benefits. It is behavior indicative of someone that should not receive a position or benefit related to public trust.

While it may not be a significant cost-benefit in terms of investigatory resources to go after customers of these businesses. It is not impossible, particularly where there may be records of transactions that could corroborate eye witness testimony, accompanied by cell phone locational data. But beyond that, you have a lot of confidence in the idea that if you were ever criminally charged with limited circumstantial evidence that somehow you would prevail. It’s quite naive.

It’s not impossible, but it’s about as unlikely as can be. It’s just not worth it to law enforcement to go after those who possessed small amounts in the past.

Reality.

[Anonymous]

Subpoenas for cell phone data? For charges of personal use?!

GMAFB

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread clearly has only one person on it who buys and uses weed. It’s insanely easy to get it, regardless of your opinion on the free gift system. I imagine that the same ways we get it in DC will quickly extend to VA.

Except that VA has now paved the way for recreational use and stores will be open in 2024. No need to make donations enter raffles for the “free gift”.

Yes. VA has legalized full recreational use, which means that there is no need for straw purchases. However, it is still not federally legal and you can still be denied a security clearance if you legally purchase and use it in VA.

Who cares? Are you really that sheltered that you don’t understand that most people do not work for the Feds?

Around the DMV, a lot of people work for the feds. And there are also a lot of private contractors whose employees need to hold security clearances. And even if you don’t work for the feds or a contractor now, you may want to do so in the future.

Again, most people do not work for the Feds. Or Fed contractors. Your endless harping on clearances is so bizarre. Get out of your gov bubble.

It’s the contractor jobs that are the real killer. Want to work in IT in the entire region? Better not smoke weed.

Nope. Plenty of IT jobs at real tech companies in this area. I know you’re desperate to cling to your clearance, but that s irrelevant to most people in this area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Subpoenas for cell phone data? For charges of personal use?!

GMAFB

Exactly. Mr Clearance joins every thread about marijuana with dire claims of loss employment and a complete lack of understanding of the law.