Prospective Church Say Pay up or don't come back
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Anonymous
People have faith in Jesus. They don’t need proof for faith. A quote from a man that lived from 1869-1948 needs evidence, of which there is none. In fact, a form of the quote is formally attributed to another man. There has been proof of that posted, with a documented source, and link. The graphic has been proven false. Real Gandhi quotes: https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi The Facebook memes are just pop culture pap. |
Anonymous
| Op won’t name the church, why not? |
Anonymous
Yeah the “pledging committee” wants to get to know you … |
Anonymous
Actually, when I belonged to a church, visiting and being visited by the pledging committee was a great way to get to know people. |
Anonymous
Hahahahaha |
Anonymous
Yes, the PTL Pass-The-Loot committee. Jim Bakker would be proud. |
Anonymous
Op won’t provide the name of the church, so likely it’s just a made up thread. After a sixteen-month federal grand jury probe, Bakker was indicted in 1988 on eight counts of mail fraud, 15 counts of wire fraud and one count of conspiracy.[24] In 1989, after a five-week trial which began on August 28 in Charlotte, North Carolina, a jury found him guilty on all 24 counts. Judge Robert Daniel Potter sentenced Bakker to 45 years in federal prison and imposed a $500,000 fine.[46][47][48] At the Federal Medical Center, Rochester in Rochester, Minnesota, he shared a cell with activist Lyndon LaRouche and skydiver Roger Nelson.[49] The United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit upheld Bakker's conviction on the fraud and conspiracy charges, voided Bakker's 45-year sentence and $500,000 fine, and ordered a new sentencing hearing in February 1991.[50] The court ruled that Potter's sentencing statement about Bakker, that "those of us who do have a religion are sick of being saps for money-grubbing preachers and priests",[51] was evidence that the judge had injected his religious beliefs into Bakker's sentence.[50] A sentence-reduction hearing was held on November 16, 1992, and Bakker's sentence was reduced to eight years. In August 1993, he was transferred to a minimum-security federal prison in Jesup, Georgia. Bakker was paroled in July 1994, after serving almost five years of his sentence.[52] His son, Jay, spearheaded a letter-writing campaign to the parole board advocating leniency.[53] Celebrity lawyer Alan Dershowitz acted as Bakker's parole attorney, having said that he "would guarantee that Mr. Bakker would never again engage in the blend of religion and commerce that led to his conviction."[54] Bakker was released from Federal Bureau of Prisons custody on December 1, 1994,[55] owing $6 million to the IRS.[56] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bakker Jim Bakker went to prison for his criminal deeds, as he should have. |
Anonymous
Liberal churches have pledging committees -- every religious organization needs $$ to survive. The Jews and mormons have actual dues. Most christian churches leave the mount given up to the individual, irrespective of income. |
Anonymous
| Here's your sign you shouldn't attend. |
Anonymous
All are welcome at LDS worship services. Only members who have been in the church for a year are even allowed to attend the temple, which does necessitate tithing. If someone wants to be a member of a congregation and never pay tithing, they would still be welcome for Sunday worship and all other activities. There is no "offering plate." We meet with the Bishop once a year and self declare that we are "full tithe payers; part tithe payers or non tithe payers.) No one checks your income, it is between you and God (who gave the commandment in Malachi.) Please speak to what you know... |
Anonymous
Actually, Mormons are famous for asking a copy of your W2. If you want to read Malachi, read whole chapter. Tithe is a tenth of your grain harvest and must be given to a levite priest. If levite priest wants new shoes he must make them himself. If you go to war then a tithe is a tenth of the war loot, not a tenth of your yearly income Oh, and it is not biblical to demand a tithe from women. Only men pay it |
Anonymous
| I think op is trolling. |
Anonymous
because they make negative comments (which may be true - dunno) about Mormon tithing practices? |
Anonymous
Op won’t identify the church. We don’t know if it’s a Mormon church. Because they won’t identify, it sounds like a hit and run against churches in general. If this were true, there would be no harm in identifying the church. Op won’t do so because it can be proven false. |
Anonymous
Well, he was wrong. |