So WDYT causes cardiovascular, cancer, diabetes? Meat or sugar or carbs?

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Anonymous wrote:I watched 'The China Study' on Youtube which is really good at breaking down how certain foods such as meat and animal products affect our bodies in different ways and why certain parts of China are now being affected by heart disease and diabetes. The meat does not have toxins from the ground but its too much to type here, so if you are really interested I recommend the above documentary.

I actually now eat more whole grain carbs and the funny thing is I don't have cravings when I eat that way. When people say to cut carbs to lose weight I shake my head, its impossible, the cravings are so bad when you cut carbs.

As others have said my diet is now vegetables and fruit with wholegrains and a little bit of meat every now and then. I don't really care what others think but my blood test results and blood pressure have shown such improvements I will continue eating like this forever. Those results can't be made up, its black and white and the improvement for me was outstanding.

"The China Study" has been pretty thoroughly debunked. I kind of wonder if reviving it as if it were useful is in part about rehabbing China's image in the midst of the COVID anger.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-china-study-revisited/
The China Study Revisited: New Analysis of Raw Data Doesn’t Support Vegetarian Ideology
"He indicts animal protein as being correlated with cardiovascular disease, but fails to mention that plant protein is more strongly correlated and wheat protein is far, far more strongly correlated. The China Study data show the opposite of what Campbell claims: animal protein doesn’t correspond with more disease, even in the highest animal food-eating counties."

https://chriskresser.com/china-study-debunked-by-new-research/
Rest in Peace, China Study

https://daveasprey.com/the-china-study-diet-criticism-vegan/
What “The China Study” Gets Wrong About Vegan Diets

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They are not perfect, but they do have to reflect a consensus opinion across a large number of highly trained specialists in the area.

Also, be careful that you are accessing what you think you are accessing. Names can be deceiving. The American Academy of Pediatrics is reliable, but the American College of Pediatricians is a wingnut fringe group.

The American Heart Association is a money making corporation. They charge tons of money to have their "heart healthy" labels put on boxes of sugary cereals in grocery stores! And we feed them to our children Along with other products with fake, processed ingredients all through out our grocery stores.
Also, anyone who looks to Harvard for health and food nutrition advice, they also receive tons of kick back and millions in support from corporations. Corporations and big business are behind pushing all this processed "healthy" food.

Look up the history of Kellogg's, their religious agenda on why cereals and grains were pushed so hard in this country.

I don't agree with veganism, but the whole food plant based crowd does have a point that we should be eating whole foods, nothing processed and that includes sugar.

Sure. What's your source for information that passes the test of purity, then? Please post specifics. Thanks.

PP? Bringing this forward so that you don't miss it.

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Dr. Robert McDougall convinced me that eating 90 percent of calories in whole grains is the answer. I buy simple, cheap things that can be found in normal stores: brown rice, beans, peas, lots of green veggies, and apples and oranges. No meat or processed sugar, very little dairy. Eating in a healthy way is far from complicated; most people are not willing to make the necessary sacrifices.

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I make a big effort to limit red meat, eat fish frequently, eat tons of veggies, avoid foods with bad fats and eat ones with healthy fat (nuts, avocados). But I have to note that all 4 of my grandparents lived until their 90s without watching their diets.

Maternal grandparents were farmers. They had eggs for breakfast every day and lunch and dinner were rice, veggies and meat (chicken, pork, beef, sometimes shrimp). The drank coffee (with lots of sugar),water and milk- never alcohol. Most of what they ate came from their farm. They were organic without being intentional about it (chemical fertilizer and pesticides weren’t a thing) their cattle (thus, beef and milk) were grass fed. Occasionally, my grandmother would make a cake for dessert. They never snacked. They NEVER went to the doctor. No annual check ups, nothing. If they had diabetes or high cholesterol, they would have been none the wiser. They did chores around the house and farm until they were physically unable to do so in their 90s. This made up their exercise. They were thin their entire lives.

Paternal grandparents were city dwellers. They ate the typical American diet throughout their times. They were Texans, so this included a decent amount of Tex-Mex and steak (and I recall gross TV dinners in the 70s and early 80s). My grandmother’s favorite dish was fried shrimp. They had cocktails every evening and frequented restaurants. My grandfather loved ice cream. Exercise wasn’t a thing and they always had a household of staff for cleaning and chores so we’re pretty sedentary. They were also both thin and healthy throughout their lives.

DH is and has always been thin and fit. He’s never been a soda drinker or consumed much sugar or more than a typical amount of carbs and he has type-2 diabetes.

While I watch my diet, I really think disease comes down to genetics, weight (which is also largely genetic) and the environment (I think Round-Up and all the other chemicals we consume are greatly harming us all and am outraged out government won’t do anything about it).