Legally if a woman cancels a wedding does she have to return the ring?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course you give the ring back. Why would you think you could keep it - to sell it? Save money for your next suitor? Keeping it out of spite? What the heck are you going to do with it if you aren't going to get married. Give it back.

What is the guy doing? Saving it for the next bride to be?

Most likely yes

[Anonymous]

Judge Judy has said in the past to return the ring as it was given with an expectation of marriage. And she's a real judge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Judge Judy has said in the past to return the ring as it was given with an expectation of marriage. And she's a real judge.

In one state.

We have 49 others and DC.

[Anonymous]

Morally, of course yes. But legally probably not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Judge Judy has said in the past to return the ring as it was given with an expectation of marriage. And she's a real judge.

In one state.

We have 49 others and DC.

She takes cases from all over. And she’s sharp as a tack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Most States consider them conditional gifts, and if the wedding does not happen, no matter who cancels it, it must be returned if requested.

No, this is incorrect. Most states do not require a return of the ring.

Only 1 State does not consider it a conditional gift. Montana. Try again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Most States consider them conditional gifts, and if the wedding does not happen, no matter who cancels it, it must be returned if requested.

No, this is incorrect. Most states do not require a return of the ring.

Only 1 State does not consider it a conditional gift. Montana. Try again.

Post a link.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

According to Judge 👩‍⚖️ Judy in L.A., the ring must definitely be returned.

[Anonymous]

There was a case on this in 2018 that got press coverage. The girl refused to return the ring so the guy sued her. The ring cost 100,000 and the poor guy mortgaged his life to buy it. I don't know how the case turned out, but the lawsuit contained a lot of juicy detail and was good reading. The girl was hot, but sounded like a nightmare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There was a case on this in 2018 that got press coverage. The girl refused to return the ring so the guy sued her. The ring cost 100,000 and the poor guy mortgaged his life to buy it. I don't know how the case turned out, but the lawsuit contained a lot of juicy detail and was good reading. The girl was hot, but sounded like a nightmare.

The girl was hot but the guy was obviously a moron! Sounds like maybe he was one of her customers at the local strip club.

[Anonymous]

No.the ring is considered a gift

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was a case on this in 2018 that got press coverage. The girl refused to return the ring so the guy sued her. The ring cost 100,000 and the poor guy mortgaged his life to buy it. I don't know how the case turned out, but the lawsuit contained a lot of juicy detail and was good reading. The girl was hot, but sounded like a nightmare.

The girl was hot but the guy was obviously a moron! Sounds like maybe he was one of her customers at the local strip club.

No, she was hot in a "girl next door" kind of way. Not a stripper type. But yes, the poor guy was taken for a ride big time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Judge Judy has said in the past to return the ring as it was given with an expectation of marriage. And she's a real judge.

In one state.

We have 49 others and DC.

Every time you state this nonsense you sound increasingly more & more ignorant.

I would guarantee my law degree, that in each and every state of these United States (and the district) that there has already been precedent set, case law submitted or a ruling rendered which stated that the fiancé must return the ring, as it represents a gift that was given with a specific condition — an expectations of marriage.

If there is even ONE case per state, then precedent has already been set and it can be litigated successfully for the rings return.

Please stop stating that Judge Judy is only one state (and what state is that... California? 🤣) so what happens if the litigants don’t reside in California??

Regardless IF “the law is different in every state”, if there’s even one case in a state where a judge made a woman return the ring (even if that state’s so called “law” says that she doesn’t have to) that man’s attorney can utilize the case facts for his own case, and yes... win too.

Stop stating this nonsense about “49 states are different” because it doesn’t work that way.. very rarely is the law so severely black or white.

God, the dumbing down just to explain this is sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Judge Judy has said in the past to return the ring as it was given with an expectation of marriage. And she's a real judge.

In one state.

We have 49 others and DC.

Every time you state this nonsense you sound increasingly more & more ignorant.

I would guarantee my law degree, that in each and every state of these United States (and the district) that there has already been precedent set, case law submitted or a ruling rendered which stated that the fiancé must return the ring, as it represents a gift that was given with a specific condition — an expectations of marriage.

If there is even ONE case per state, then precedent has already been set and it can be litigated successfully for the rings return.

Please stop stating that Judge Judy is only one state (and what state is that... California? 🤣) so what happens if the litigants don’t reside in California??

Regardless IF “the law is different in every state”, if there’s even one case in a state where a judge made a woman return the ring (even if that state’s so called “law” says that she doesn’t have to) that man’s attorney can utilize the case facts for his own case, and yes... win too.

Stop stating this nonsense about “49 states are different” because it doesn’t work that way.. very rarely is the law so severely black or white.

God, the dumbing down just to explain this is sad.

I’ve never seen a copy of Judge Judy’s standard arbitration agreement but I have been told before that she applies NY law. That’s where she was a judge and where she still lives.