PBES CES (grade 4)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of my kids was in this last year. DC did roughly an hour a night. There were some weekends where we spent a lot of time on projects. They were a lot of work but were also fun and memorable. Things got easier when they switched to DL. Overall DC learned a lot from the class. Their writing improved greatly. The teacher has high expectations and the class isn't for everyone.

It is interesting the reaction I am reading from parents. I would presume that the understanding was that participation in CES came with an expectation of greater rigor and increased work, both in class and at home.

I am surprised that other people are surprised by this.

Not surprised at the increased rigor, surprised at the amount of homework which is onerous. Research is pretty clear that homework in elementary is unnecessary and doesn’t improve educational outcomes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of my kids was in this last year. DC did roughly an hour a night. There were some weekends where we spent a lot of time on projects. They were a lot of work but were also fun and memorable. Things got easier when they switched to DL. Overall DC learned a lot from the class. Their writing improved greatly. The teacher has high expectations and the class isn't for everyone.

It is interesting the reaction I am reading from parents. I would presume that the understanding was that participation in CES came with an expectation of greater rigor and increased work, both in class and at home.

I am surprised that other people are surprised by this.

Not surprised at the increased rigor, surprised at the amount of homework which is onerous. Research is pretty clear that homework in elementary is unnecessary and doesn’t improve educational outcomes.

Interesting theory, but difficult when dealing with the projects, reading, and writing of the CES program. It is not just busywork homework, it is part of the curriculum. If there wasn’t time to work on the assignments as home, they would not be able to cover as much of the curriculum. No homework or work at home is not realistic in the program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2020-2021 is Mrs. Snyder's 4th year teaching this class. Very committed and engaging teacher.

There is an open house on the 28th for all the admitted students where I am hoping that people who may not have met Mrs Snyder will get to.

The same one that split the class into Yoda and Chewy? You've got to be kidding me. She shouldn't be a teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Schools historically did fine serving gifted and talented. Now they can close the achievement gap by preventing achievement. Don’t be fooled. This is intentional and lazy.

And no other country is ignoring their brightest in an effort to lower their achievement gap. This is how we fall behind. It’s stupid. Fix the achievement gap by setting excellence levels for all students.

+1 The old "GT" program is what built MCPS' rep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2020-2021 is Mrs. Snyder's 4th year teaching this class. Very committed and engaging teacher.

There is an open house on the 28th for all the admitted students where I am hoping that people who may not have met Mrs Snyder will get to.

The same one that split the class into Yoda and Chewy? You've got to be kidding me. She shouldn't be a teacher.

Those were for spelling groups. I never had a problem with there being more than one spelling group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2020-2021 is Mrs. Snyder's 4th year teaching this class. Very committed and engaging teacher.

There is an open house on the 28th for all the admitted students where I am hoping that people who may not have met Mrs Snyder will get to.

The same one that split the class into Yoda and Chewy? You've got to be kidding me. She shouldn't be a teacher.

My kid who was in the program and is now in middle school still brings up projects they did in her class. She is a great teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2020-2021 is Mrs. Snyder's 4th year teaching this class. Very committed and engaging teacher.

There is an open house on the 28th for all the admitted students where I am hoping that people who may not have met Mrs Snyder will get to.

The same one that split the class into Yoda and Chewy? You've got to be kidding me. She shouldn't be a teacher.

My kid who was in the program and is now in middle school still brings up projects they did in her class. She is a great teacher.

DC who also went through PBES CES was just lamenting the other day they don't have projects like that in their current grade. My sense is the teacher follows the CES curriculum closer than most and does believe students can rise to the challenge.

[Anonymous]

The almost unanimous consensus is that the program is rigorous, but great and the kids are better off for it. The kids and parents who have a problem with the program always have the option to either not accept the invitation or drop out mid-way and join the rest of the classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of my kids was in this last year. DC did roughly an hour a night. There were some weekends where we spent a lot of time on projects. They were a lot of work but were also fun and memorable. Things got easier when they switched to DL. Overall DC learned a lot from the class. Their writing improved greatly. The teacher has high expectations and the class isn't for everyone.

It is interesting the reaction I am reading from parents. I would presume that the understanding was that participation in CES came with an expectation of greater rigor and increased work, both in class and at home.

I am surprised that other people are surprised by this.

Not surprised at the increased rigor, surprised at the amount of homework which is onerous. Research is pretty clear that homework in elementary is unnecessary and doesn’t improve educational outcomes.

Interesting theory, but difficult when dealing with the projects, reading, and writing of the CES program. It is not just busywork homework, it is part of the curriculum. If there wasn’t time to work on the assignments as home, they would not be able to cover as much of the curriculum. No homework or work at home is not realistic in the program.

Hm. But only in 4th grade and not 5th? I call BS. That teacher is doing something wrong if reports are accurate. And it’s not a theory it’s backed up by a multitude of research.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2020-2021 is Mrs. Snyder's 4th year teaching this class. Very committed and engaging teacher.

There is an open house on the 28th for all the admitted students where I am hoping that people who may not have met Mrs Snyder will get to.

The same one that split the class into Yoda and Chewy? You've got to be kidding me. She shouldn't be a teacher.

Those were for spelling groups. I never had a problem with there being more than one spelling group.

Seriously. These were only spelling groups. And FWIW we asked our kid be switch to the other group and it was NBD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2020-2021 is Mrs. Snyder's 4th year teaching this class. Very committed and engaging teacher.

There is an open house on the 28th for all the admitted students where I am hoping that people who may not have met Mrs Snyder will get to.

The same one that split the class into Yoda and Chewy? You've got to be kidding me. She shouldn't be a teacher.

Those were for spelling groups. I never had a problem with there being more than one spelling group.

Seriously. These were only spelling groups. And FWIW we asked our kid be switch to the other group and it was NBD.

? It was way more than that.

[Anonymous]

Can someone explain the Yoda and Chewy controversy??

[Anonymous]

No controversy. Looks like one parent had an issue that their special kid did not get into the special reading group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No controversy. Looks like one parent had an issue that their special kid did not get into the special reading group.

It was a lot more than that. Are you with MCPS (want to keep it quiet) or a parent that was in the Chewy group (are hoping to keep it quiet)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No controversy. Looks like one parent had an issue that their special kid did not get into the special reading group.

It was a lot more than that. Are you with MCPS (want to keep it quiet) or a parent that was in the Chewy group (are hoping to keep it quiet)?

Then tell us what it was.