Would you eat out with unvaccinated kids

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do you need to eat out with your kids even without a pandemic? It isn't even any fun.

Oh jeez, realize that some families aren’t as miserable as yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DH and I are vaccinated. We ate out as a family outdoors last summer/fall a handful of times. DH and I have both gone out twice. DH got vaccinated first back in December so he has eaten indoors. I have not as I just got vaccinated. Going forward, wondering if we can go to a restaurant. We always eat early so we would be first seating.

Would you eat out with unvaccinated kids when parents are vaccinated?

No, I wouldn't. And really, eating out inside a restaurant is not all that. You will have the rest of your lives for this, just hang on a little longer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would. As Emily Oster points out in this article, statistically your unvaccinated child is as likely to have a severe case of COVID as a vaccinated adult:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/03/go-ahead-plan-family-vacation-your-unvaccinated-kids/618313/

Lots of us who are more cautious aren't only concerned about our own children and/or their potential for severe illness.

ANd few people in the epidemiology community actually respect her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would. As Emily Oster points out in this article, statistically your unvaccinated child is as likely to have a severe case of COVID as a vaccinated adult:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/03/go-ahead-plan-family-vacation-your-unvaccinated-kids/618313/

Lots of us who are more cautious aren't only concerned about our own children and/or their potential for severe illness.

ANd few people in the epidemiology community actually respect her.

This. She is an economist whose early work had a not insignificant scandal related to it, and has now branched out to comment on the world at large. Really wish she would stay in her lane when it comes to public health stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you need to eat out with your kids even without a pandemic? It isn't even any fun.

Oh jeez, realize that some families aren’t as miserable as yours.

+1

I will never understand people who raise children who are incapable of dining out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you need to eat out with your kids even without a pandemic? It isn't even any fun.

Oh jeez, realize that some families aren’t as miserable as yours.

+1

I will never understand people who raise children who are incapable of dining out.

Seriously. Our youngest loves oysters. We go a couple of times a month to one of the oyster places near us.

[Anonymous]

I'm loving our local outdoor dining scene with kids. We're actually eating out now more than we would if we had to be indoors in a non covid world. Our local streets are closed, tables are spaced way out, and my 2 and 4yo can chalk in the streetbed while DH and I eat pizza or whatever. We enjoyed this app winter. It's something I hope continues after this whole thing is over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you need to eat out with your kids even without a pandemic? It isn't even any fun.

Oh jeez, realize that some families aren’t as miserable as yours.

+1

I will never understand people who raise children who are incapable of dining out.

This. It is part of life for most people — doesn’t matter if it is McDonalds or something fancy. Kids need to know how to behave properly in restaurants. Without devices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would. As Emily Oster points out in this article, statistically your unvaccinated child is as likely to have a severe case of COVID as a vaccinated adult:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/03/go-ahead-plan-family-vacation-your-unvaccinated-kids/618313/

Lots of us who are more cautious aren't only concerned about our own children and/or their potential for severe illness.

ANd few people in the epidemiology community actually respect her.

This. She is an economist whose early work had a not insignificant scandal related to it, and has now branched out to comment on the world at large. Really wish she would stay in her lane when it comes to public health stuff. [/quote

Yup, Yup

"To get to your question. I am not an expert on the econ literature and am aware of only two retractions. The first is the paper by Emily Oster, a young economist who engaged in a several-years-long battle with public-health researchers regarding a theory of sex-ratio changes in developing countries. She eventually gave up and admitted that the public-heatlh researchers were right and she was wrong. (But she did not, as far as I know, retract her claims that economists benefit from having a special kind of reasoning.)"

https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2012/07/30/15873/

https://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2008/08/troubling-timin.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would. As Emily Oster points out in this article, statistically your unvaccinated child is as likely to have a severe case of COVID as a vaccinated adult:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/03/go-ahead-plan-family-vacation-your-unvaccinated-kids/618313/

Lots of us who are more cautious aren't only concerned about our own children and/or their potential for severe illness.

ANd few people in the epidemiology community actually respect her.

This. She is an economist whose early work had a not insignificant scandal related to it, and has now branched out to comment on the world at large. Really wish she would stay in her lane when it comes to public health stuff.

Yup, Yup

"To get to your question. I am not an expert on the econ literature and am aware of only two retractions. The first is the paper by Emily Oster, a young economist who engaged in a several-years-long battle with public-health researchers regarding a theory of sex-ratio changes in developing countries. She eventually gave up and admitted that the public-heatlh researchers were right and she was wrong. (But she did not, as far as I know, retract her claims that economists benefit from having a special kind of reasoning.)"

https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2012/07/30/15873/

https://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2008/08/troubling-timin.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would. As Emily Oster points out in this article, statistically your unvaccinated child is as likely to have a severe case of COVID as a vaccinated adult:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/03/go-ahead-plan-family-vacation-your-unvaccinated-kids/618313/

Lots of us who are more cautious aren't only concerned about our own children and/or their potential for severe illness.

ANd few people in the epidemiology community actually respect her.

This. She is an economist whose early work had a not insignificant scandal related to it, and has now branched out to comment on the world at large. Really wish she would stay in her lane when it comes to public health stuff.

and she was denied tenure

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DH and I are vaccinated. We ate out as a family outdoors last summer/fall a handful of times. DH and I have both gone out twice. DH got vaccinated first back in December so he has eaten indoors. I have not as I just got vaccinated. Going forward, wondering if we can go to a restaurant. We always eat early so we would be first seating.

Would you eat out with unvaccinated kids when parents are vaccinated?

You make it sound like kids have a choice to currently be vaccinated or not

[Anonymous]

Yes. My kids go to in-person school and eat lunch there. I don't see how a restaurant would be any different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes. My kids go to in-person school and eat lunch there. I don't see how a restaurant would be any different.

and this is why we can't have nice things.

[Anonymous]

Yes, I have two tweens and love eating out. We've been eating out since the beginning, whenever restaurants have been open. When the restaurants were closed in our county, we went to other counties to eat. There are always lots of other people there.

Face it; while you were hiding at home, the majority of people were out enjoying their lives. If it helps you to say that you were unselfish and considerate of others (or in reverse that we were selfish) by all means.
I'm just happy we didn't throw away a year of our lives.