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^— athleticism in women’s soccer still reigns supreme

Doesn’t matter how creative you are. Covering more ground over the full length of the match matters more.

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Anonymous wrote:^— athleticism in women’s soccer still reigns supreme

Doesn’t matter how creative you are. Covering more ground over the full length of the match matters more.

Sure, but it is also something that can't be developed or coached. Speed also is nation agnostic. To think that America has all the fastest people in the world in soccer is foolish. If you believe speed alone will be enough you are being naïve. EVERYONE will be fast.

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Anonymous wrote:^— athleticism in women’s soccer still reigns supreme

Doesn’t matter how creative you are. Covering more ground over the full length of the match matters more.

Sure, but it is also something that can't be developed or coached. Speed also is nation agnostic. To think that America has all the fastest people in the world in soccer is foolish. If you believe speed alone will be enough you are being naïve. EVERYONE will be fast.

So it's speed and high soccer IQ?

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Anonymous wrote:I like Lynn Williams. She blows past defenders but needs to finish once she does. She had a breakaway today and somehow managed not to get a shot off. Works hard off the ball, too.

In other news, Crystal Dunn stole Mayor Lori Lightfoot's hairdo.

Speed is the only reason why Williams is on the team. You can tell she relied on speed completely throughout her youth and never spent time developing her skills.

Her speed is incredible and it’s what’s gotten her the accolades in the NWSL. Her speed and drive help her create so many chances that it doesn’t matter so much that her on-frame shots are at a woefully low percentage. That matters far more once the level steps up in international play and you get fewer shots. The US players who are doing well are the ones who have the technical skills in addition to the speed and physicality. Horan, Dunn, Press, and Lavelle were standouts so far. Lloyd and Rapinoe not so much. Morgan was getting mugged. And I thought Ertz wasn’t as on this past week as she’s been in the past.

Agreed. Williams is fast but not while dribbling compared to Press, Lavell, & Dunn. It seems Morgan got some of her speed back and definitely a lot more aggressive compared to the Canada game. It should help once S. Mewis and T. Heath comes back. Aside from a few of the USWNT players that played in Europe, most of these players haven’t played much due to COVID.

Morgan did not get “speed” back. Brazil was a better match up for her ie the players she went against were slower. The US’s back line is shaky at best. When they face technical players who move the ball a lot of opportunities are presented. Most of the US based players just do not see that type of soccer. Canada and Brazil should have scored but choked.

And yet they still won.

+1. The same was said before the 2019 Women’s World Cup too.

And yet the margins are getting tighter and tighter. Not a great trend for USWNT.

Trend definitely not great. Back to back WC winners, unbeaten in last 36 games, winners of their last 15 games, including games at Netherlands and home against Japan, Spain, England, Brazil and twice vs Canada. A pathetic downward spiral.

Agreed. The anti-USWNT posters make me laugh. Maybe someday they'll be right. Just like the people that never invest in the stock market, cuz it might go down someday.

It’s not “anti-USWNT”. It is anti complacency. It is wanting our National team to evolve in order to stay ahead and not rely on a formula that will soon become outdated in an increasingly more competitive international game.

We all want the same thing the difference is some of us are looking at how the game and the competition is evolving and some are just looking at 2 year old box scores.

Nobody has said the USWNT will plummet and no longer be competitive. What people are saying is that as a whole, Europe is catching up. Our best players are now playing in European leagues. NWSL is now a 2nd or 3rd ranked international league.

Parity with Europe is getting closer every 5 years. We will need to start developing complete players not just track stars to keep dominating.

It is a shame you take this objective truth so personally but look around and look ahead. The past is gone. I’m sure there was a time where Brazil men’s felt invincible too.

We are complacent and entitled and it has a good chance of biting us in the near future.

Meh. Soccer in this country has come a long way in the last ten years, and has led to the USWNT's style, which is dominating currently. The US has, and will always have an inherent advantage due to it's wealth and population. It's why we win more Olympic medals than any other country, and it's not even close. The sheer number of girls playing virtually ensures that we will always be flush with elite athletes. It is hard to consistently neutralize athleticism when the entire team is drenched in it, although I think we're seeing cases (games) where various tactics can neutralize it temporarily. It won't be a failure when this finally occurs, it will be an opportunity to grow. Enjoy the ride.

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Anonymous wrote:I like Lynn Williams. She blows past defenders but needs to finish once she does. She had a breakaway today and somehow managed not to get a shot off. Works hard off the ball, too.

In other news, Crystal Dunn stole Mayor Lori Lightfoot's hairdo.

Speed is the only reason why Williams is on the team. You can tell she relied on speed completely throughout her youth and never spent time developing her skills.

Her speed is incredible and it’s what’s gotten her the accolades in the NWSL. Her speed and drive help her create so many chances that it doesn’t matter so much that her on-frame shots are at a woefully low percentage. That matters far more once the level steps up in international play and you get fewer shots. The US players who are doing well are the ones who have the technical skills in addition to the speed and physicality. Horan, Dunn, Press, and Lavelle were standouts so far. Lloyd and Rapinoe not so much. Morgan was getting mugged. And I thought Ertz wasn’t as on this past week as she’s been in the past.

Agreed. Williams is fast but not while dribbling compared to Press, Lavell, & Dunn. It seems Morgan got some of her speed back and definitely a lot more aggressive compared to the Canada game. It should help once S. Mewis and T. Heath comes back. Aside from a few of the USWNT players that played in Europe, most of these players haven’t played much due to COVID.

Morgan did not get “speed” back. Brazil was a better match up for her ie the players she went against were slower. The US’s back line is shaky at best. When they face technical players who move the ball a lot of opportunities are presented. Most of the US based players just do not see that type of soccer. Canada and Brazil should have scored but choked.

And yet they still won.

+1. The same was said before the 2019 Women’s World Cup too.

And yet the margins are getting tighter and tighter. Not a great trend for USWNT.

Trend definitely not great. Back to back WC winners, unbeaten in last 36 games, winners of their last 15 games, including games at Netherlands and home against Japan, Spain, England, Brazil and twice vs Canada. A pathetic downward spiral.

Agreed. The anti-USWNT posters make me laugh. Maybe someday they'll be right. Just like the people that never invest in the stock market, cuz it might go down someday.

It’s not “anti-USWNT”. It is anti complacency. It is wanting our National team to evolve in order to stay ahead and not rely on a formula that will soon become outdated in an increasingly more competitive international game.

We all want the same thing the difference is some of us are looking at how the game and the competition is evolving and some are just looking at 2 year old box scores.

Nobody has said the USWNT will plummet and no longer be competitive. What people are saying is that as a whole, Europe is catching up. Our best players are now playing in European leagues. NWSL is now a 2nd or 3rd ranked international league.

Parity with Europe is getting closer every 5 years. We will need to start developing complete players not just track stars to keep dominating.

It is a shame you take this objective truth so personally but look around and look ahead. The past is gone. I’m sure there was a time where Brazil men’s felt invincible too.

We are complacent and entitled and it has a good chance of biting us in the near future.

Meh. Soccer in this country has come a long way in the last ten years, and has led to the USWNT's style, which is dominating currently. The US has, and will always have an inherent advantage due to it's wealth and population. It's why we win more Olympic medals than any other country, and it's not even close. The sheer number of girls playing virtually ensures that we will always be flush with elite athletes. It is hard to consistently neutralize athleticism when the entire team is drenched in it, although I think we're seeing cases (games) where various tactics can neutralize it temporarily. It won't be a failure when this finally occurs, it will be an opportunity to grow. Enjoy the ride.

And Europe isn't flush with athletes? C.mon man, take your blinders off.

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Anonymous wrote:I like Lynn Williams. She blows past defenders but needs to finish once she does. She had a breakaway today and somehow managed not to get a shot off. Works hard off the ball, too.

In other news, Crystal Dunn stole Mayor Lori Lightfoot's hairdo.

Speed is the only reason why Williams is on the team. You can tell she relied on speed completely throughout her youth and never spent time developing her skills.

Her speed is incredible and it’s what’s gotten her the accolades in the NWSL. Her speed and drive help her create so many chances that it doesn’t matter so much that her on-frame shots are at a woefully low percentage. That matters far more once the level steps up in international play and you get fewer shots. The US players who are doing well are the ones who have the technical skills in addition to the speed and physicality. Horan, Dunn, Press, and Lavelle were standouts so far. Lloyd and Rapinoe not so much. Morgan was getting mugged. And I thought Ertz wasn’t as on this past week as she’s been in the past.

Agreed. Williams is fast but not while dribbling compared to Press, Lavell, & Dunn. It seems Morgan got some of her speed back and definitely a lot more aggressive compared to the Canada game. It should help once S. Mewis and T. Heath comes back. Aside from a few of the USWNT players that played in Europe, most of these players haven’t played much due to COVID.

Morgan did not get “speed” back. Brazil was a better match up for her ie the players she went against were slower. The US’s back line is shaky at best. When they face technical players who move the ball a lot of opportunities are presented. Most of the US based players just do not see that type of soccer. Canada and Brazil should have scored but choked.

And yet they still won.

+1. The same was said before the 2019 Women’s World Cup too.

And yet the margins are getting tighter and tighter. Not a great trend for USWNT.

Trend definitely not great. Back to back WC winners, unbeaten in last 36 games, winners of their last 15 games, including games at Netherlands and home against Japan, Spain, England, Brazil and twice vs Canada. A pathetic downward spiral.

Agreed. The anti-USWNT posters make me laugh. Maybe someday they'll be right. Just like the people that never invest in the stock market, cuz it might go down someday.

It’s not “anti-USWNT”. It is anti complacency. It is wanting our National team to evolve in order to stay ahead and not rely on a formula that will soon become outdated in an increasingly more competitive international game.

We all want the same thing the difference is some of us are looking at how the game and the competition is evolving and some are just looking at 2 year old box scores.

Nobody has said the USWNT will plummet and no longer be competitive. What people are saying is that as a whole, Europe is catching up. Our best players are now playing in European leagues. NWSL is now a 2nd or 3rd ranked international league.

Parity with Europe is getting closer every 5 years. We will need to start developing complete players not just track stars to keep dominating.

It is a shame you take this objective truth so personally but look around and look ahead. The past is gone. I’m sure there was a time where Brazil men’s felt invincible too.

We are complacent and entitled and it has a good chance of biting us in the near future.

Meh. Soccer in this country has come a long way in the last ten years, and has led to the USWNT's style, which is dominating currently. The US has, and will always have an inherent advantage due to it's wealth and population. It's why we win more Olympic medals than any other country, and it's not even close. The sheer number of girls playing virtually ensures that we will always be flush with elite athletes. It is hard to consistently neutralize athleticism when the entire team is drenched in it, although I think we're seeing cases (games) where various tactics can neutralize it temporarily. It won't be a failure when this finally occurs, it will be an opportunity to grow. Enjoy the ride.

And Europe isn't flush with athletes? C.mon man, take your blinders off.

Europe has some good athletes sure, but Europe doesn't field a team. Countries field teams, with much smaller talent pools. The evidence is on the field, the US is much deeper athletically than any other country.

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Anonymous wrote:^— athleticism in women’s soccer still reigns supreme

Doesn’t matter how creative you are. Covering more ground over the full length of the match matters more.

Sure, but it is also something that can't be developed or coached. Speed also is nation agnostic. To think that America has all the fastest people in the world in soccer is foolish. If you believe speed alone will be enough you are being naïve. EVERYONE will be fast.

So it's speed and high soccer IQ?

And we commercialized the sport but we support it more than anybody else (for girls)

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Anonymous wrote:^— athleticism in women’s soccer still reigns supreme

Doesn’t matter how creative you are. Covering more ground over the full length of the match matters more.

Sure, but it is also something that can't be developed or coached. Speed also is nation agnostic. To think that America has all the fastest people in the world in soccer is foolish. If you believe speed alone will be enough you are being naïve. EVERYONE will be fast.

So it's speed and high soccer IQ?

And we commercialized the sport but we support it more than anybody else (for girls)

No, parents paying youth soccer clubs is what supports the sport.

There are more pro opportunities now in Europe than in the States. Any talent we have will begin shooting to play professionally in Europe. And to crack those squads will require beating out players who have been trained in Professional Academies their entire youth career.

Flash forward a decade, how many kids after spending 4 years playing in college are going to really compete against European players who have been training professionally in a professional environment and playing in professional leagues for those same four years?

The college game brought our Women's team to National prominence because of scale compared to the rest of the world. But European professional clubs will quickly surpass that development without asking parents to pay for it.

In America soccer is a rich white kids sport with leagues meant to get kids into college. That is not a competitively sustainable system moving forward.

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Anonymous wrote:I like Lynn Williams. She blows past defenders but needs to finish once she does. She had a breakaway today and somehow managed not to get a shot off. Works hard off the ball, too.

In other news, Crystal Dunn stole Mayor Lori Lightfoot's hairdo.

Speed is the only reason why Williams is on the team. You can tell she relied on speed completely throughout her youth and never spent time developing her skills.

Her speed is incredible and it’s what’s gotten her the accolades in the NWSL. Her speed and drive help her create so many chances that it doesn’t matter so much that her on-frame shots are at a woefully low percentage. That matters far more once the level steps up in international play and you get fewer shots. The US players who are doing well are the ones who have the technical skills in addition to the speed and physicality. Horan, Dunn, Press, and Lavelle were standouts so far. Lloyd and Rapinoe not so much. Morgan was getting mugged. And I thought Ertz wasn’t as on this past week as she’s been in the past.

Agreed. Williams is fast but not while dribbling compared to Press, Lavell, & Dunn. It seems Morgan got some of her speed back and definitely a lot more aggressive compared to the Canada game. It should help once S. Mewis and T. Heath comes back. Aside from a few of the USWNT players that played in Europe, most of these players haven’t played much due to COVID.

Morgan did not get “speed” back. Brazil was a better match up for her ie the players she went against were slower. The US’s back line is shaky at best. When they face technical players who move the ball a lot of opportunities are presented. Most of the US based players just do not see that type of soccer. Canada and Brazil should have scored but choked.

And yet they still won.

+1. The same was said before the 2019 Women’s World Cup too.

And yet the margins are getting tighter and tighter. Not a great trend for USWNT.

Trend definitely not great. Back to back WC winners, unbeaten in last 36 games, winners of their last 15 games, including games at Netherlands and home against Japan, Spain, England, Brazil and twice vs Canada. A pathetic downward spiral.

Agreed. The anti-USWNT posters make me laugh. Maybe someday they'll be right. Just like the people that never invest in the stock market, cuz it might go down someday.

It’s not “anti-USWNT”. It is anti complacency. It is wanting our National team to evolve in order to stay ahead and not rely on a formula that will soon become outdated in an increasingly more competitive international game.

We all want the same thing the difference is some of us are looking at how the game and the competition is evolving and some are just looking at 2 year old box scores.

Nobody has said the USWNT will plummet and no longer be competitive. What people are saying is that as a whole, Europe is catching up. Our best players are now playing in European leagues. NWSL is now a 2nd or 3rd ranked international league.

Parity with Europe is getting closer every 5 years. We will need to start developing complete players not just track stars to keep dominating.

It is a shame you take this objective truth so personally but look around and look ahead. The past is gone. I’m sure there was a time where Brazil men’s felt invincible too.

We are complacent and entitled and it has a good chance of biting us in the near future.

Meh. Soccer in this country has come a long way in the last ten years, and has led to the USWNT's style, which is dominating currently. The US has, and will always have an inherent advantage due to it's wealth and population. It's why we win more Olympic medals than any other country, and it's not even close. The sheer number of girls playing virtually ensures that we will always be flush with elite athletes. It is hard to consistently neutralize athleticism when the entire team is drenched in it, although I think we're seeing cases (games) where various tactics can neutralize it temporarily. It won't be a failure when this finally occurs, it will be an opportunity to grow. Enjoy the ride.

And Europe isn't flush with athletes? C.mon man, take your blinders off.

Europe has some good athletes sure, but Europe doesn't field a team. Countries field teams, with much smaller talent pools. The evidence is on the field, the US is much deeper athletically than any other country.

Right, and on the men's side a country with a population half the size of Virginia finished in 2nd place in the last World Cup. So, yeah, POPULATION

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Right, and on the men's side a country with a population half the size of Virginia finished in 2nd place in the last World Cup. So, yeah, POPULATION

Don't be a dolt. The men's side is a completely different situation.

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Anyone who has watched France knows that the US will get wiped off the field if it doesn't get its act together. France has athleticism, skill and experience. Ask Catarina why she bailed on the NWSL for Lyon. Notice that the only

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who has watched France knows that the US will get wiped off the field if it doesn't get its act together. France has athleticism, skill and experience. Ask Catarina why she bailed on the NWSL for Lyon. Notice that the only

nice one minuteman

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Right, and on the men's side a country with a population half the size of Virginia finished in 2nd place in the last World Cup. So, yeah, POPULATION

Don't be a dolt. The men's side is a completely different situation.

No, Europe is different. Players can train at pro clubs all across Europe. We can't. Pro academies develop talent, not nations.

The women's side is being run the same way. The best players will go to the best Academies and they do not need to be in their home country. Our best players can't do that until they are 18 without a European Visa.

So, keep on believing that our amateur system (which is what collegiate athletics are) will continue to develop Professional caliber players. Women's soccer is being professionalized in Europe at a rate that is eclipsing our top league that will probably fold in less than a decade.

For all the "support" you claim we have for women's soccer there are divisions in ODSL that have more teams than our top league has clubs.

Our league will fold and with it the inability to play and train professionally domestically. The ability to train and play professionally in Europe will be limited to Visa status and typical timeframe of waiting until 18 years old to even move over.

We have significant challenges ahead that if they are not road mapped out properly, just relying on speed and athleticism will no longer be enough.

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+1
The NWSL would have folded/reorganized if the USWNT has not done well in last World Cup
Europe leagues competition destroy US men as well
Only MLS has screwy non relegation and % of World Cup broadcast rights.
NWSL is a totally different creature and far more fragile

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USWNT won again last night. Guess it wasn’t against France so the naysayers will persist.