My ES is letting advanced kids push in and I am upset about it

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I understand OP's point. You get told something about a bubble/pod etc. and send your kid back to school only to have them disregard what they told you and do something different. I think other parents would be more sympathetic if the situation was something like they suddenly decided to make all the kids in the whole school eat together in the lunchroom. You would just be upset that they dropped the rules and guidelines they said they were going to follow without notice or input.

I don't. It should have been pretty obvious that they would use cohorts to whatever extent they can, but the cohorts would not be able to be completely insulated bubbles. It's naive for anyone to expect that a "bubble" would mean that kids wouldn't be pushed in or pulled out of classrooms to have their needs met, whether that need is special ed, ESOL, or advanced classes. OP says that the AAP class is 24 kids, with maybe another handful being pushed in. Not everyone will choose in person. OP probably will have 6-10 classroom kids + another 2 push in kids. The push in kids can easily be 10' away from the nearest classroom kid. It's not like they're going to seat them right next to OP's kid.

No matter what mitigations the school puts in place, returning to school is riskier than staying home. The risk added by a couple socially distanced, masked, push-in kids is a drop in the bucket compared to the risk of attending school at all. If the social distancing, mask wearing, and mostly cohorting isn't good enough for OP, she needs to keep her kid home.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought the entire point of this system was to create a bubble but our Principal told us this morning that all students receiving advanced curriculum (math or LA) will be able to push in to the AAP class. Do tell--How is that safe? I am really worried because my child has about 6 kids that push in and his class is already at 24 kids. Not all 24 kids are returning. Add 3 more and that's 14 kids give or take depending on split!!!!!! (again, assuming they all go back--which I don't think is the case) but it's still mixing. Should I be worried? I am thinking of holding back my child to be virtual. I am very nervous about this mixing. We have grandparents at home. I wish those kids just stayed in their GenEd class. Are other ES schools in the area doing this? Is this an FCPS thing? I feel like they misinformed us. I thought they care about safety.

How is safety exactly impacted by more kids joining the program?

I am sure enough people have opted for all virtual that adding a few level III kids to the classes isn’t gonna make a difference.

Is this some troll post to get people to react to arrogant and b!tchy unsupported claims?

I understand OP's point. You get told something about a bubble/pod etc. and send your kid back to school only to have them disregard what they told you and do something different. I think other parents would be more sympathetic if the situation was something like they suddenly decided to make all the kids in the whole school eat together in the lunchroom. You would just be upset that they dropped the rules and guidelines they said they were going to follow without notice or input.

What bubbles are you talking about? Thinking bubbles in your head?

How are you going to control people’s bubbles? In school you’ll have one bubble, and it gets mixed with all the individual families’ bubbles and becomes one huge bubble, which when big enough, definitely bursts.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

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The push in kids could compromise the social distancing. Is that what you’re upset about, OP?
If so, you’re a horrible person for trying to keep people out because it is doubtful the social distancing will be compromised

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Is it Covid you are concerned about or your kid mixing in with non AAP kids?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it Covid you are concerned about or your kid mixing in with non AAP kids?

They are second class citizens. I dont want them in my kids class.

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Anonymous wrote:I am an AAP parent and I don't want those kids coming in. They're not part of the class and they distract.

They absolutely are part of the class in those subjects. Why do you want to deny bright level III kids the ability to access an appropriate education? Those level III kids might actually be brighter and more deserving than your child, but for whatever reason didn't get picked by the selection committee.

so many of the kids who are in level III in my school had very high scores but were not selected for level IV. I think it's hilarious that so many level IV parents really think their kids are so above the rest. If your kid is that gifted-you shouldn't be relying in AAP to meet their needs.

The cut-offs for Level IV are laughably arbitrary, so the idea that III kids are a distraction and IV kids are not is absurd. The smartest kid in my DD's AAP class is the one who's disruptive, too, BTW, and the parents are the, "Oh, DC is just behaving like that because they're BORED. If they were CHALLENGED, they'd sit in their seat quietly and do their work." sort. This kid NEVER sits quietly anywhere - they're the class clown - funny, sweet, but very attention seeking and must have other kids' eyes on them at all times.

And these push-in kids were already pushing in last year during in-person, during virtual, and now in hybrid, so the kids are used to them as part of their class, unless their asshole parent tells them otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it Covid you are concerned about or your kid mixing in with non AAP kids?

They are second class citizens. I dont want them in my kids class.

I assume you're a troll, but, if you're not, do us all a favor and send your special snowflake to Nysmith School for the "Gifted" if you want to pretend you're better than others.

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So, only you child should get acceleration. Sure, ok.

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Anonymous wrote:So, only you child should get acceleration. Sure, ok.

Stay virtual and you can have a really safe classroom for one!

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Anonymous wrote:What does "push in" mean?

It means the kids from the Gen Ed class who receive above grade level instructions who normally go into the AAP class. OP is saying she doesn't want those kids going into her AAP class.

Must be crappy aap , at good aap there are no lev3 or lower because everyone in lev4. No idea what a push in is.

DS attended Haycock as a Level III student and they pushed him into AAP for math. All the students (GE and AAP) were given a test to assess their base level understanding. Then they leveled the entire grade into 7 different classes for math. DS was in the second highest group, which was higher level math than many of the full time AAP students. For math, it didn’t matter if you were in GE or AAP, all the kids were grouped by math ability.

[Anonymous]

The admin at our ES casually admitted today that cohorts aren't really happening anymore. Officially, it's still a policy, but they aren't going to enforce it. It's too much of a logistical nightmare for students receiving push-in/ pull-out services.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. The grandparents are vaccinated but one still has asthma. And I am worried. I don't want extra children pushing in to the AAP class. I thought FCPS wanted to create cohorts that did not mix. Why can't they dial in from their actual classes like that one poster said was happening at their school????

Why can't your kid dial in to class from home like he's been doing for the whole year?

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OP - are you okay with your child going to the gym, music room, or art room for specials? What about the cafeteria for lunch?

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Anonymous wrote:OP - are you okay with your child going to the gym, music room, or art room for specials? What about the cafeteria for lunch?

Or are you okay with the PE/music/art teacher coming into your child's room for specials? They've been near every child in the school at some point in the week. Isn't that worse than 5 kids coming in for advanced math? Your kid, in school, is going to be around a ton of germs, no matter what. If you're so concerned, keep him home.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it Covid you are concerned about or your kid mixing in with non AAP kids?

Based on OP ignoring logic I’m sure this is it.