How much raise should my wife ask for now with Biden and $15/h minimum wage?

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Anonymous wrote:NP, but I was also thinking about this in regard to a proposed $15 minimum wage. A lot of people with degrees and experience are making between $40-50K. Why should they make that little when you can make 30K with zero experience?

I am one of those people. On one hand, I chose a career that was low paying, but my salary also has not kept up with inflation. Like OPs wife, I have worked for state government.

I think the plus will be that certain low paying careers will start to have a dearth of applicants, as people decide it's not worth it to earn a master's or bachelor's to do low paying work. Like it was back in the day, and slowly either those salaries will start to rise or qualifications will need to disappear. I don't think it's a bad thing.

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And, I have friends with college degrees who have never recovered from the great recession and are making $11 an hour in their late 40s and 50s, in another part of the country. $15 an hour will be a great help to them, it's not just the uneducated.

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Anonymous wrote:Raising minimum wage is to help people out of poverty. If everyone else gets a "raise", it just continues the gap. What your wife makes has nothing to do with minimum wage increasing. Wow, just wow.

This is why some people don't want to raise the minimum wage - because it drives inflation. Everyone wants to make more and everything starts to cost more. I support increasing the minimum wage, but that's reality.

Housing, healthcare and education inflation are proceeding just fine alongside wage stagnation

You know what’s not stagnated? Billionaires wealth growth.
People worry about things costing more because companies have to pay their workers more. How about the CEOS and CFOs and COOs and all the other stakeholders stop getting bonuses?

[Anonymous]

If your wife works in a University setting, it’s not about just asking for an getting a raise. Wages are generally pretty tightly controlled based on the level and requirements for the role. I think the bigger question you need to be asking your wife is why hasn’t she progressed out of this administrator role? That is how you make salary gains in a University system.

If more money is important than she needs to look to moving to the private sector. But she better hold on. The increase in workload without the large team will probably not be worth the increase in money.

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Ask for an increase in an equal percentage.

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Do you understand how the world works? If she wants more pay, she should switch jobs. I made more than that in 1997, my first year out of college btw, when you could buy a house in N. Arlington for $200k.

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Anonymous wrote:Raising minimum wage is to help people out of poverty. If everyone else gets a "raise", it just continues the gap. What your wife makes has nothing to do with minimum wage increasing. Wow, just wow.

This is why some people don't want to raise the minimum wage - because it drives inflation. Everyone wants to make more and everything starts to cost more. I support increasing the minimum wage, but that's reality.

Housing, healthcare and education inflation are proceeding just fine alongside wage stagnation

You know what’s not stagnated? Billionaires wealth growth.
People worry about things costing more because companies have to pay their workers more. How about the CEOS and CFOs and COOs and all the other stakeholders stop getting bonuses?

Or those McDonald’s workers could go get an education or new jobs. I think a lot of lower paid jobs will hopefully be automated. I like the ordering machines

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Anonymous wrote:Does your wife work 52 weeks a year at 40 hours a week?

Yes.

This surprises me. I can’t think of a single school system that a teacher works all weeks of the year.

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Anonymous wrote:Raising minimum wage is to help people out of poverty. If everyone else gets a "raise", it just continues the gap. What your wife makes has nothing to do with minimum wage increasing. Wow, just wow.

You don't think people with technical skills and experience should make more than someone that can walk onto a job with no specialized experience?

They do make more, and have far better work conditions and benefits. You just think the gap should be bigger.

Yes, the gap between a college educated person with years of experience vs a high school student pushing carts should be bigger than a measly $5 per hour. What's the point of paying for expensive college educauons then if your boost to income is only $5-7 per hour over a high school student?

If she wants to make more, she needs to look for a new job. An education provides you with mobility--if she fails to take advantage of that, it's on her. No one "owes" her more money for doing the same job.

Use that same logic for minimum wage workers then too. If you want more than minimum wage jobs apply for new jobs that pay more. Or gain skills/education so you can earn more. No one owes mimum wage earners $15 per hour using your logic too.

Unless you think that dignity snd survival is actually something we owe to everyone in our society who works full time. I do.

If this means that fewer people go to college, that’s fine. Non-college requiring work is important, too. But the vast majority will choose education because the jobs that pay “only” $5-7 more are more appealing to them.

So it's a private company's responsibility to provide divinity and survival. Please quantify that. And people who make low wages qualify for medicaid, snap, and food stamps. Quit being so hyperbolic. Maybe middle class making $40-50k now should also get food stamps and medicaid if they're only going to make $5 per hour more than a high school kids scooping ice cream.

SNAP is food stamps, genius. And yes, I think that all companies that employ workers owe full-time workers sufficient pay so that they don’t have to depend on government programs. Why should the government be subsidizing private companies by paying for their workers’ basic needs? If you want to employ a human beings rather than robots, then you need to pay them enough so that they can afford crazy things like food and shelter. Doing otherwise is demanding corporate welfare.

You seem to feel like it is an insult to your wife that minimum-wage workers won’t be making much less than she is. It’s not. It’s a recognition that low-skilled administrative workers are very easy to come by, and therefore that work doesn’t pay well. Her masters degree is completely irrelevant unless she’s actually working in an environment that requires a masters degree. She may be underemployed, but that’s on her, and there’s no reason her employer should pay her more because of it.

Your entitlement is stunning.

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Anonymous wrote:Does your wife work 52 weeks a year at 40 hours a week?

Yes.

This surprises me. I can’t think of a single school system that a teacher works all weeks of the year.

She’s not a teacher, she is an HR administrator at a university. I work at a university and am very familiar with these jobs and they are pleasant but low skilled. And low paid. They sure don’t require a masters degree. They don’t even require a bachelors. OP seems to think that his wife should be paid more because she has an irrelevant qualification.

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If we eliminate the minimum wage should/would your wife accept a pay cut?

A race to the bottom isn't good. Especially for people like you. I know you need to shit on minimum wage earners to feel better about your position, so I guess it sucks to realize how similar you are to them. You're attacking the wrong group, but sure, go ahead and fight them for table scraps.

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If her boss won’t give her a raise and she wants to make more moment- then she needs to find a new job. That is how the world works.

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I think companies should pay a living wage. Why people feel like poor people should stay poor while CEOs remain rich as croesus is puzzling to me. (stolen from elsewhere) Jeff Bezos earns $150,000, pays warehouse workers $16/hr and you are mad with the poor soul packing boxes?

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Anonymous wrote:I think companies should pay a living wage. Why people feel like poor people should stay poor while CEOs remain rich as croesus is puzzling to me. (stolen from elsewhere) Jeff Bezos earns $150,000, pays warehouse workers $16/hr and you are mad with the poor soul packing boxes?

correx $150,000/hour

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Anonymous wrote:Raising minimum wage is to help people out of poverty. If everyone else gets a "raise", it just continues the gap. What your wife makes has nothing to do with minimum wage increasing. Wow, just wow.

You don't think people with technical skills and experience should make more than someone that can walk onto a job with no specialized experience?

DP - I don’t think that having a technical degree necessarily means guy should make more. There is a lot of degree inflation going on in jobs today. Jobs that people do not necessarily need a degree for but that employers require because people want them.