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Anonymous wrote:I am not a union person but people on this board have convinced me that if NoVA ever gets real ones, I will join. I only wish I had as much power and agency some parents seem to think I have.

Hahaha! Isn't that the truth! Teachers have progressed from being called lazy and incapable to people that are SO powerful that we close schools for a year! Funny...

Teachers' collective refusal to return to school is why our schools are closed and others are open. It is the truth.

You know- the problem with teachers is- they’re educated.

Hahaha please. Everyone think back to the kids they know from high school who became teachers.....EXACTLY.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not a union person but people on this board have convinced me that if NoVA ever gets real ones, I will join. I only wish I had as much power and agency some parents seem to think I have.

Hahaha! Isn't that the truth! Teachers have progressed from being called lazy and incapable to people that are SO powerful that we close schools for a year! Funny...

Teachers' collective refusal to return to school is why our schools are closed and others are open. It is the truth.

You know- the problem with teachers is- they’re educated.

...and the problem with that is that it makes people MORE stuck on their own arguments:

Now, often in elite media circles or academic circles, these tendencies are discussed as the products of ignorance, a lack of cognitive sophistication, or the result of naïve dogmatism. “Those people” resist facts and logic, “they” are driven by prejudices and superstitions. “We”, on the other hand, are open-minded. “Our” beliefs are derived from evidence and facts. We are committed to “the truth” rather than being driven by ideology.

But here again, in many respects, basically the opposite seems to be true:In fact, the more intelligent, educated or rhetorically skilled one is, the less likely it becomes that someone will change their minds when confronted with evidence or arguments that challenge their priors....

And while educated people may be less likely to discriminate against others on the basis of factors like race, they are significantly more likely to be prejudiced against people who think differently than them, or hold different ideological commitments.

(source, with lots of citations and links)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not a union person but people on this board have convinced me that if NoVA ever gets real ones, I will join. I only wish I had as much power and agency some parents seem to think I have.

Hahaha! Isn't that the truth! Teachers have progressed from being called lazy and incapable to people that are SO powerful that we close schools for a year! Funny...

Teachers' collective refusal to return to school is why our schools are closed and others are open. It is the truth.

? We don’t have collective bargaining in NoVA. The people who won’t come in won’t get paid. No one is going on strike or even trying to BUT WE STILL HAVE STAFFING PROBLEMS. This is COMPLETELY a Human Resources dept. issue.

Stop touting that lame party line. If they weren't afraid you would quit/LOA, we would have been back in August.

You can’t make people work for free. What the hell?

I didn’t decide not to go back in August. I will go back in when they say “Go back in.” What I don’t understand is that you seem to want to be able to talk to or rail at a collective of “Teachers” at the same time you don’t want that collective to exist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not a union person but people on this board have convinced me that if NoVA ever gets real ones, I will join. I only wish I had as much power and agency some parents seem to think I have.

Hahaha! Isn't that the truth! Teachers have progressed from being called lazy and incapable to people that are SO powerful that we close schools for a year! Funny...

Teachers' collective refusal to return to school is why our schools are closed and others are open. It is the truth.

You know- the problem with teachers is- they’re educated.

...and the problem with that is that it makes people MORE stuck on their own arguments:

Now, often in elite media circles or academic circles, these tendencies are discussed as the products of ignorance, a lack of cognitive sophistication, or the result of naïve dogmatism. “Those people” resist facts and logic, “they” are driven by prejudices and superstitions. “We”, on the other hand, are open-minded. “Our” beliefs are derived from evidence and facts. We are committed to “the truth” rather than being driven by ideology.

But here again, in many respects, basically the opposite seems to be true:In fact, the more intelligent, educated or rhetorically skilled one is, the less likely it becomes that someone will change their minds when confronted with evidence or arguments that challenge their priors....

And while educated people may be less likely to discriminate against others on the basis of factors like race, they are significantly more likely to be prejudiced against people who think differently than them, or hold different ideological commitments.

(source, with lots of citations and links)

Lots of citations and links, huh? Wowee! It must be legitimate, then. I mean what a better endorsement for ethos is there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not a union person but people on this board have convinced me that if NoVA ever gets real ones, I will join. I only wish I had as much power and agency some parents seem to think I have.

Hahaha! Isn't that the truth! Teachers have progressed from being called lazy and incapable to people that are SO powerful that we close schools for a year! Funny...

Teachers' collective refusal to return to school is why our schools are closed and others are open. It is the truth.

? We don’t have collective bargaining in NoVA. The people who won’t come in won’t get paid. No one is going on strike or even trying to BUT WE STILL HAVE STAFFING PROBLEMS. This is COMPLETELY a Human Resources dept. issue.

Stop touting that lame party line. If they weren't afraid you would quit/LOA, we would have been back in August.

You can’t make people work for free. What the hell?

I didn’t decide not to go back in August. I will go back in when they say “Go back in.” What I don’t understand is that you seem to want to be able to talk to or rail at a collective of “Teachers” at the same time you don’t want that collective to exist.

Well, in Loudoun where I live they sent an informal survey of who would not be willing to come back in. Based upon that, they said they couldn't staff hybrid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, if VA can do it, so can MD. Come on schools, OPEN!

Those of you pushing pushing pushing to get schools open RIGHT NOW should be pushing for faster vaccination of teachers and staff. I can’t believe how heartless Americans are.

How can we do that? Northam greenlighted 1B. FCPS where I live is literally vaccinating teachers starting on the 16th via INOVA. Not being a trained to put shots into people's arms, I don't think there's anything I can do.

I am scheduled for the 18th.
The earliest my second dose could be is Feb 8th.
I will be fully protected on Feb 22.

The biggest shame is the nurses and doctors that are getting covid between their first and second dose. Let’s hold on a little longer.

14 days after the 18th, you will be at 80-90% effective. That’s substantial protection. We don’t need to wait until everyone has had two doses plus two weeks.

[Anonymous]

I mean, I don't think it is necessarily fair to say that it is the collective refusal of teachers. My son is in ACPS, at his school a little more than 40 percent of students picked hybrid, a little more than 50 percent of teachers said they would come back (even prior to a vaccine). Yet, not one student has set foot in the building.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, if VA can do it, so can MD. Come on schools, OPEN!

Those of you pushing pushing pushing to get schools open RIGHT NOW should be pushing for faster vaccination of teachers and staff. I can’t believe how heartless Americans are.

How can we do that? Northam greenlighted 1B. FCPS where I live is literally vaccinating teachers starting on the 16th via INOVA. Not being a trained to put shots into people's arms, I don't think there's anything I can do.

I am scheduled for the 18th.
The earliest my second dose could be is Feb 8th.
I will be fully protected on Feb 22.

The biggest shame is the nurses and doctors that are getting covid between their first and second dose. Let’s hold on a little longer.

Is there enough vaccine for every teacher? We can absolutely wait until March for full protection so we don't fall back into distance learning.

+1000. Seems like politicians will appease the masses, people will get sick, everything backslides... because you people can’t wait even a month. I am so disgusted.

Please watch the entire press conference. The expert at the end made it very clear that schools that have been open using the governor’s mitigation’s have had great success. He said that opening schools should not be dependent on vaccines, just mitigations.

Seriously stop being so selfish. Think about the children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG, if VA can do it, so can MD. Come on schools, OPEN!

Those of you pushing pushing pushing to get schools open RIGHT NOW should be pushing for faster vaccination of teachers and staff. I can’t believe how heartless Americans are.

How can we do that? Northam greenlighted 1B. FCPS where I live is literally vaccinating teachers starting on the 16th via INOVA. Not being a trained to put shots into people's arms, I don't think there's anything I can do.

I am scheduled for the 18th.
The earliest my second dose could be is Feb 8th.
I will be fully protected on Feb 22.

The biggest shame is the nurses and doctors that are getting covid between their first and second dose. Let’s hold on a little longer.

Is there enough vaccine for every teacher? We can absolutely wait until March for full protection so we don't fall back into distance learning.

I am scheduled early Feb. I won’t be fully protected till mid/late March.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG, if VA can do it, so can MD. Come on schools, OPEN!

Those of you pushing pushing pushing to get schools open RIGHT NOW should be pushing for faster vaccination of teachers and staff. I can’t believe how heartless Americans are.

How can we do that? Northam greenlighted 1B. FCPS where I live is literally vaccinating teachers starting on the 16th via INOVA. Not being a trained to put shots into people's arms, I don't think there's anything I can do.

I am scheduled for the 18th.
The earliest my second dose could be is Feb 8th.
I will be fully protected on Feb 22.

The biggest shame is the nurses and doctors that are getting covid between their first and second dose. Let’s hold on a little longer.

14 days after the 18th, you will be at 80-90% effective. That’s substantial protection. We don’t need to wait until everyone has had two doses plus two weeks.

Nope. 14 days after second dose. First dose is at 50 percent after ten days, hence a second dose. Parents should absolutely be okay with waiting tillteachers get 2nd dose cause then we will all be much more willing to go back. 1 dose... no way. A lot of people are still getting it between doses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG, if VA can do it, so can MD. Come on schools, OPEN!

Those of you pushing pushing pushing to get schools open RIGHT NOW should be pushing for faster vaccination of teachers and staff. I can’t believe how heartless Americans are.

How can we do that? Northam greenlighted 1B. FCPS where I live is literally vaccinating teachers starting on the 16th via INOVA. Not being a trained to put shots into people's arms, I don't think there's anything I can do.

I am scheduled for the 18th.
The earliest my second dose could be is Feb 8th.
I will be fully protected on Feb 22.

The biggest shame is the nurses and doctors that are getting covid between their first and second dose. Let’s hold on a little longer.

Is there enough vaccine for every teacher? We can absolutely wait until March for full protection so we don't fall back into distance learning.

I am scheduled early Feb. I won’t be fully protected till mid/late March.

I think groups 7-8. 3-12 won’t come back till q4. Early grades might start in March.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG, if VA can do it, so can MD. Come on schools, OPEN!

Those of you pushing pushing pushing to get schools open RIGHT NOW should be pushing for faster vaccination of teachers and staff. I can’t believe how heartless Americans are.

How can we do that? Northam greenlighted 1B. FCPS where I live is literally vaccinating teachers starting on the 16th via INOVA. Not being a trained to put shots into people's arms, I don't think there's anything I can do.

I am scheduled for the 18th.
The earliest my second dose could be is Feb 8th.
I will be fully protected on Feb 22.

The biggest shame is the nurses and doctors that are getting covid between their first and second dose. Let’s hold on a little longer.

Is there enough vaccine for every teacher? We can absolutely wait until March for full protection so we don't fall back into distance learning.

I am scheduled early Feb. I won’t be fully protected till mid/late March.

Well at least you could get in to the site. My coworkers and I've been trying all day, and now the site is completely down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG, if VA can do it, so can MD. Come on schools, OPEN!

Those of you pushing pushing pushing to get schools open RIGHT NOW should be pushing for faster vaccination of teachers and staff. I can’t believe how heartless Americans are.

How can we do that? Northam greenlighted 1B. FCPS where I live is literally vaccinating teachers starting on the 16th via INOVA. Not being a trained to put shots into people's arms, I don't think there's anything I can do.

I am scheduled for the 18th.
The earliest my second dose could be is Feb 8th.
I will be fully protected on Feb 22.

The biggest shame is the nurses and doctors that are getting covid between their first and second dose. Let’s hold on a little longer.

14 days after the 18th, you will be at 80-90% effective. That’s substantial protection. We don’t need to wait until everyone has had two doses plus two weeks.

Nope. 14 days after second dose. First dose is at 50 percent after ten days, hence a second dose. Parents should absolutely be okay with waiting tillteachers get 2nd dose cause then we will all be much more willing to go back. 1 dose... no way. A lot of people are still getting it between doses.

I think most parents would be fine if they knew kids would start returning after the second dose completed en masse. But we still have to get through the council of idiots on the school board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG, if VA can do it, so can MD. Come on schools, OPEN!

Those of you pushing pushing pushing to get schools open RIGHT NOW should be pushing for faster vaccination of teachers and staff. I can’t believe how heartless Americans are.

How can we do that? Northam greenlighted 1B. FCPS where I live is literally vaccinating teachers starting on the 16th via INOVA. Not being a trained to put shots into people's arms, I don't think there's anything I can do.

I am scheduled for the 18th.
The earliest my second dose could be is Feb 8th.
I will be fully protected on Feb 22.

The biggest shame is the nurses and doctors that are getting covid between their first and second dose. Let’s hold on a little longer.

Is there enough vaccine for every teacher? We can absolutely wait until March for full protection so we don't fall back into distance learning.

I am scheduled early Feb. I won’t be fully protected till mid/late March.

Well at least you could get in to the site. My coworkers and I've been trying all day, and now the site is completely down.

Yeah. It took all day.. very irritating. Hopefully by tomorrow it will be better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG, if VA can do it, so can MD. Come on schools, OPEN!

Those of you pushing pushing pushing to get schools open RIGHT NOW should be pushing for faster vaccination of teachers and staff. I can’t believe how heartless Americans are.

How can we do that? Northam greenlighted 1B. FCPS where I live is literally vaccinating teachers starting on the 16th via INOVA. Not being a trained to put shots into people's arms, I don't think there's anything I can do.

I am scheduled for the 18th.
The earliest my second dose could be is Feb 8th.
I will be fully protected on Feb 22.

The biggest shame is the nurses and doctors that are getting covid between their first and second dose. Let’s hold on a little longer.

The 50 percent stat is wrong and has been corrected multiple times. It’s 80-90%.

14 days after the 18th, you will be at 80-90% effective. That’s substantial protection. We don’t need to wait until everyone has had two doses plus two weeks.

Nope. 14 days after second dose. First dose is at 50 percent after ten days, hence a second dose. Parents should absolutely be okay with waiting tillteachers get 2nd dose cause then we will all be much more willing to go back. 1 dose... no way. A lot of people are still getting it between doses.