Has Duran gone mad? (APS)

[Anonymous]

Yeah. I picked distance so I don’t have to be invested in the crazies who think it’s safe. But it’s too bad that those crazies are going to force school back and at the high school and middle school level it is utterly without evidence OR the mitigation practices (routine testing of the school population) that are needed to protect everyone. It’s what they are doing in the NE and NYC. Also, under the X-ray concurrent model, the hybrid school will make instruction worse for everyone. DL in school with masks to two different groups simultaneously. What could go wrong?

[Anonymous]

Not “X-ray”—“ Ridiculous”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just received a notice to attend jury duty in January.. How hysterical is it that I can attend jury duty but my kids can't go to school ?!?!

Lucky for you, caring for children under 16 is a specified reason to be excused from jury duty.

That said, yes, it is ridiculous that they are planning to resume jury trials in January.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of families picked hybrid but have NO INTENTION of sending their kids back anytime soon. The whole selection was silly. They keep changing/eliminating the metrics.

+1

+1000

Who would send their kids in January? (I mean other than the crazies with their signs...although not even sure they will since a surprising number of them are in private school).

And yet because YOU picked hybrid and feel free to back out teachers are forced to go back in and risk their safety even when you won’t send your kids now. Very cool.

When parents elected hybrid or DL in October, APS was very firm that teachers and students wouldn't go back unless we had low community spread under the selected metrics. There is no reason to intimate that parents who selected hybrid believed that APS would open when metrics are bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah. I picked distance so I don’t have to be invested in the crazies who think it’s safe. But it’s too bad that those crazies are going to force school back and at the high school and middle school level it is utterly without evidence OR the mitigation practices (routine testing of the school population) that are needed to protect everyone. It’s what they are doing in the NE and NYC. Also, under the X-ray concurrent model, the hybrid school will make instruction worse for everyone. DL in school with masks to two different groups simultaneously. What could go wrong?

Why do you believe they are crazy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah. I picked distance so I don’t have to be invested in the crazies who think it’s safe. But it’s too bad that those crazies are going to force school back and at the high school and middle school level it is utterly without evidence OR the mitigation practices (routine testing of the school population) that are needed to protect everyone. It’s what they are doing in the NE and NYC. Also, under the X-ray concurrent model, the hybrid school will make instruction worse for everyone. DL in school with masks to two different groups simultaneously. What could go wrong?

Why do you believe they are crazy?

“Crazy” is used as a weak attempt to delegitimize differing opinions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s no good science on safety for middle and high school. None. When people say it’s safe there, they are talking with no evidence.

There is plenty of evidence that in kids and young adults, this thing just isn’t a big deal. There is also plenty of evidence that masks and social distancing work and keep the virus from spreading. Of course that is good science for opening schools. The benefits far outweigh the risks. And it’s shocking to me that you are even arguing against it.

High school, where kids switch classes and don't stick with a single cohort, is entirely unlike an elementary school. It's so much harder (impossible?) to come up with a plan that distances teens and keeps them in a cohort while still allowing them to get their APs and electives. Many studies have also shown that elementary students are also better at following instructions and remaining socially distanced than teens.

Let's get elementary students back and see where we are. It's crazy that APS seems to think it needs a plan for K-12 before it brings back K-Creating a safety track record will go a long way with both teachers and parents.

100% agree!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah. I picked distance so I don’t have to be invested in the crazies who think it’s safe. But it’s too bad that those crazies are going to force school back and at the high school and middle school level it is utterly without evidence OR the mitigation practices (routine testing of the school population) that are needed to protect everyone. It’s what they are doing in the NE and NYC. Also, under the X-ray concurrent model, the hybrid school will make instruction worse for everyone. DL in school with masks to two different groups simultaneously. What could go wrong?

If you don't want to go back, you are free to stay DL...you do you. I need my young elementary kids back in school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s no good science on safety for middle and high school. None. When people say it’s safe there, they are talking with no evidence.

There is plenty of evidence that in kids and young adults, this thing just isn’t a big deal. There is also plenty of evidence that masks and social distancing work and keep the virus from spreading. Of course that is good science for opening schools. The benefits far outweigh the risks. And it’s shocking to me that you are even arguing against it.

High school, where kids switch classes and don't stick with a single cohort, is entirely unlike an elementary school. It's so much harder (impossible?) to come up with a plan that distances teens and keeps them in a cohort while still allowing them to get their APs and electives. Many studies have also shown that elementary students are also better at following instructions and remaining socially distanced than teens.

Let's get elementary students back and see where we are. It's crazy that APS seems to think it needs a plan for K-12 before it brings back K-Creating a safety track record will go a long way with both teachers and parents.

You don't know this and are just making it up. There are plenty of high schools that went back, had students switch classes, and had no significant issues.
Are you a member of the school board by chance? Because you seem to use the same kind of "facts" and "metrics" they use.

[Anonymous]

Most good privates are testing. If APS was testing in schools this might make sense. There is no good data on safety in middle and high school. The comment above is entirely based on the person’s experience. Just cause there’s not data on high school spread and your friends’ kids haven’t gotten it does it make it safe from a public health standpoint.

[Anonymous]

Many privates also competed their middle and high school kids last fall so they wouldn’t have to change classes as much. APS dropped the ball in this. Now, the lack of cohosting makes reopening operationally challenging and unwise from a public health standpoint. Unless we do regular student testing. That’s what privates and the public schools in parts of the country that follow science are doing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s no good science on safety for middle and high school. None. When people say it’s safe there, they are talking with no evidence.

There is plenty of evidence that in kids and young adults, this thing just isn’t a big deal. There is also plenty of evidence that masks and social distancing work and keep the virus from spreading. Of course that is good science for opening schools. The benefits far outweigh the risks. And it’s shocking to me that you are even arguing against it.

High school, where kids switch classes and don't stick with a single cohort, is entirely unlike an elementary school. It's so much harder (impossible?) to come up with a plan that distances teens and keeps them in a cohort while still allowing them to get their APs and electives. Many studies have also shown that elementary students are also better at following instructions and remaining socially distanced than teens.

Let's get elementary students back and see where we are. It's crazy that APS seems to think it needs a plan for K-12 before it brings back K-2. Creating a safety track record will go a long way with both teachers and parents.

You don't know this and are just making it up. There are plenty of high schools that went back, had students switch classes, and had no significant issues.
Are you a member of the school board by chance? Because you seem to use the same kind of "facts" and "metrics" they use.

You disagree with my "fact" that high schoolers switch classes making cohorting more difficult than in elementary school? Feel free to disagree that cohorting is necessary, but you're talking nonsense if you disagree that high schoolers switch classes. You're also making stuff up if you argue that cohorting doesn't reduce risk--of course it does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s no good science on safety for middle and high school. None. When people say it’s safe there, they are talking with no evidence.

There is plenty of evidence that in kids and young adults, this thing just isn’t a big deal. There is also plenty of evidence that masks and social distancing work and keep the virus from spreading. Of course that is good science for opening schools. The benefits far outweigh the risks. And it’s shocking to me that you are even arguing against it.

High school, where kids switch classes and don't stick with a single cohort, is entirely unlike an elementary school. It's so much harder (impossible?) to come up with a plan that distances teens and keeps them in a cohort while still allowing them to get their APs and electives. Many studies have also shown that elementary students are also better at following instructions and remaining socially distanced than teens.

Let's get elementary students back and see where we are. It's crazy that APS seems to think it needs a plan for K-12 before it brings back K-Creating a safety track record will go a long way with both teachers and parents.

You don't know this and are just making it up. There are plenty of high schools that went back, had students switch classes, and had no significant issues.
Are you a member of the school board by chance? Because you seem to use the same kind of "facts" and "metrics" they use.

DP, but do you really think it's just as easy to cohort high schoolers as elementary schoolers? Or are you saying cohorting doesn't matter?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s no good science on safety for middle and high school. None. When people say it’s safe there, they are talking with no evidence.

There is plenty of evidence that in kids and young adults, this thing just isn’t a big deal. There is also plenty of evidence that masks and social distancing work and keep the virus from spreading. Of course that is good science for opening schools. The benefits far outweigh the risks. And it’s shocking to me that you are even arguing against it.

This is not at all what the studies are data show. This is Covid denial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s no good science on safety for middle and high school. None. When people say it’s safe there, they are talking with no evidence.

There is plenty of evidence that in kids and young adults, this thing just isn’t a big deal. There is also plenty of evidence that masks and social distancing work and keep the virus from spreading. Of course that is good science for opening schools. The benefits far outweigh the risks. And it’s shocking to me that you are even arguing against it.

This is not at all what the studies are data show. This is Covid denial.

You are full of it. If you don’t agree with the science, you call it covid denial?