Merit Aid award letter from Pitt arrived today

[Anonymous]

What's so crazy to me is that even if you save really aggressively, and you end up with like I don't know $500,000 for two kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's so crazy to me is that even if you save really aggressively, and you end up with like I don't know $500,000 for two kids.

Sorry I wasn't done.

But if you have to pay all of that. Then you're left with zero savings? It seems inherently unfair and just bonkers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's so crazy to me is that even if you save really aggressively, and you end up with like I don't know $500,000 for two kids.

Sorry I wasn't done.

But if you have to pay all of that. Then you're left with zero savings? It seems inherently unfair and just bonkers.

Yep. And the crazy thing is, this is likely the most expensive product you will ever spend money on and as a buyer you have zero control! That's kinda how criminal cartels work. They control the product, it's price and the terms of sale even though free market principles would suggest otherwise..

[Anonymous]

Seems like the shift towards merit-based aid has worked really well:

https://www.pittwire.pitt.edu/news/closing-retention-gap-pitt-success-pell-match-program-celebrates-new-milestone

I'd imagine merit will continue to decline at Pitt for the foreseeable future.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's so crazy to me is that even if you save really aggressively, and you end up with like I don't know $500,000 for two kids.

Sorry I wasn't done.

But if you have to pay all of that. Then you're left with zero savings? It seems inherently unfair and just bonkers.

Yep. And the crazy thing is, this is likely the most expensive product you will ever spend money on and as a buyer you have zero control! That's kinda how criminal cartels work. They control the product, it's price and the terms of sale even though free market principles would suggest otherwise..

You have plenty of control. Go in state. Go to community college. Go to foreign schools in Canada or Europe. Free market means they can charge what they think you will pay-/ and that you can decline and go elsewhere. Or skip college entirely and go direct into business or apprenticeship.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That is no aid.

what is wrong with you?

that is possibly a big enough difference to affect a family's decision.

My daughter got that much, she did not go. School is super expensive out of state. Three years ago 24k common with those stats.

Nova, Fordham, Syracuse, Villanova, Case Western, GWU, Pitt, NYU, American cheap with merit aid.

They were offered a very generous amount.

15k a year is not generous. I say pretty weak for those amazing stats. I like Pitt a lot, I did tour two years ago. Pretty much 10k merit says here is a token amount we don’t care if you come, 13-17 is normal merit offer if they are making a good offer, 17k-30k is they love you.

My oldest daughter pissed be off as one school wanted her. But she did not want to go. They gave her 25k a year off and assigned her a personal contact near our house, my wife and I got a steak dinner invitation to talk it over.

My younger daughter oddly Ohio state paid my other daughters airfare and hotel to visit.

Pitt did give us a free lunch and 10k a year. Like a kiss on the cheek at end of date.

Schools are getting cheap, free rides are over. Scam is merit money for OOS is only off tuition the dorms and meal plans are killers

Very generous. I went to Pitt and they weren't giving anything like that. If you cannot afford it, then you go to your state school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems like the shift towards merit-based aid has worked really well:

https://www.pittwire.pitt.edu/news/closing-retention-gap-pitt-success-pell-match-program-celebrates-new-milestone

I'd imagine merit will continue to decline at Pitt for the foreseeable future.

Pitt shifted aid towards poor students. Historically high GPA and high ACT kids from my daughters W school went there. They shifted aid towards need based so no longer popular. They used to be generous. Parents flipped out last year as announced it after they took application money and parents took tour.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like the shift towards merit-based aid has worked really well:

https://www.pittwire.pitt.edu/news/closing-retention-gap-pitt-success-pell-match-program-celebrates-new-milestone

I'd imagine merit will continue to decline at Pitt for the foreseeable future.

Pitt shifted aid towards poor students. Historically high GPA and high ACT kids from my daughters W school went there. They shifted aid towards need based so no longer popular. They used to be generous. Parents flipped out last year as announced it after they took application money and parents took tour.

It should be toward lower class and real middle class families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like the shift towards merit-based aid has worked really well:

https://www.pittwire.pitt.edu/news/closing-retention-gap-pitt-success-pell-match-program-celebrates-new-milestone

I'd imagine merit will continue to decline at Pitt for the foreseeable future.

Pitt shifted aid towards poor students. Historically high GPA and high ACT kids from my daughters W school went there. They shifted aid towards need based so no longer popular. They used to be generous. Parents flipped out last year as announced it after they took application money and parents took tour.

It's hardly Pitt's loss--the students now are just as good as when they were giving out lots of merit.

[Anonymous]

And you don't think Pitt has data analysts figuring this out?

And many many kids do not have a 3.0 in college. So those scholarships well.....

Yay Pitt is an awesome school! Worth it period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems like the shift towards merit-based aid has worked really well:

https://www.pittwire.pitt.edu/news/closing-retention-gap-pitt-success-pell-match-program-celebrates-new-milestone

I'd imagine merit will continue to decline at Pitt for the foreseeable future.

You have it backwards. Pitt is taking merit money and shifting it to financial aid, pull grant students

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like the shift towards merit-based aid has worked really well:

https://www.pittwire.pitt.edu/news/closing-retention-gap-pitt-success-pell-match-program-celebrates-new-milestone

I'd imagine merit will continue to decline at Pitt for the foreseeable future.

Pitt shifted aid towards poor students. Historically high GPA and high ACT kids from my daughters W school went there. They shifted aid towards need based so no longer popular. They used to be generous. Parents flipped out last year as announced it after they took application money and parents took tour.

So where are the “W” students looking for merit aid applying this year?
Tulane?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's so crazy to me is that even if you save really aggressively, and you end up with like I don't know $500,000 for two kids.

Sorry I wasn't done.

But if you have to pay all of that. Then you're left with zero savings? It seems inherently unfair and just bonkers.

Yep. And the crazy thing is, this is likely the most expensive product you will ever spend money on and as a buyer you have zero control! That's kinda how criminal cartels work. They control the product, it's price and the terms of sale even though free market principles would suggest otherwise..

You have plenty of control. Go in state. Go to community college. Go to foreign schools in Canada or Europe. Free market means they can charge what they think you will pay-/ and that you can decline and go elsewhere. Or skip college entirely and go direct into business or apprenticeship.

In other words, do what 99.9% of the people are not expected to do. Why should I? Especially when my tax dollars subsidizes these MFs through tax breaks for their "non profit" status and research grants.

Also, have you been following the hearings on Social media's role? Why can't Twitter/Facebook, etc. ask the senators to go take a hike and post their messages on physical bulletin boards? They cannot and will not because they know they control the mechanism for efficient messaging delivery to the masses.. similar to how colleges control the mechanism to wealth delivery through higher education. Why should I have to figure out alternative methods?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like the shift towards merit-based aid has worked really well:

https://www.pittwire.pitt.edu/news/closing-retention-gap-pitt-success-pell-match-program-celebrates-new-milestone

I'd imagine merit will continue to decline at Pitt for the foreseeable future.

Pitt shifted aid towards poor students. Historically high GPA and high ACT kids from my daughters W school went there. They shifted aid towards need based so no longer popular. They used to be generous. Parents flipped out last year as announced it after they took application money and parents took tour.

Yep. We (TJ parents) are not even applying to Pitt as a safety this year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's so crazy to me is that even if you save really aggressively, and you end up with like I don't know $500,000 for two kids.

Sorry I wasn't done.

But if you have to pay all of that. Then you're left with zero savings? It seems inherently unfair and just bonkers.

Yep. And the crazy thing is, this is likely the most expensive product you will ever spend money on and as a buyer you have zero control! That's kinda how criminal cartels work. They control the product, it's price and the terms of sale even though free market principles would suggest otherwise..

You have plenty of control. Go in state. Go to community college. Go to foreign schools in Canada or Europe. Free market means they can charge what they think you will pay-/ and that you can decline and go elsewhere. Or skip college entirely and go direct into business or apprenticeship.

In other words, do what 99.9% of the people are not expected to do. Why should I? Especially when my tax dollars subsidizes these MFs through tax breaks for their "non profit" status and research grants.

Also, have you been following the hearings on Social media's role? Why can't Twitter/Facebook, etc. ask the senators to go take a hike and post their messages on physical bulletin boards? They cannot and will not because they know they control the mechanism for efficient messaging delivery to the masses.. similar to how colleges control the mechanism to wealth delivery through higher education. Why should I have to figure out alternative methods?

What are you rambling about? Here's an idea. Save for college like the rest of us.