Teacher Assignments

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Anonymous wrote:I can only imagine the onslaught of angry emails and phone calls when these announcements are made. If my child loses his amazing teacher who has been rocking it at DL I'm going to go nuts.

so privileged. that teacher is going to teach kids who need in-person learning. but hey it’s never been any secret that you all resent “those” kids.

come on, the two are not mutually exclusive. I know everybody wants whats best for SN and at-risk kids, while also not wanting their own kids to lose out on teachers they really love. No need for the hate.

I mean you’re literally trying to stop SN and homeless kids from getting the support they need because you don’t want to switch teachers. It is mutually exclusive. You think your child’s “love” for their teacher means SN kids shouldn’t be able to access the curriculum.

This, exactly! I'm the parent of SN kids and I can't even interact with the idiotic parents at our WOTP elementary who parrot the WTU talking points. How about we shut down schools "only when it's safe" for my kids to access education?

Solidarity sister. I always knew they only cared about their own kids despite all the talk of their values.

I’m think I’m not hearing your concern for their kids. Am I missing something? Should not the effort to understand be mutual?

I don’t think “their” kids will fail if their teacher changes and class size increases modestly. But I know that many kids with IEPs need to be back in person to continue learning. more globally, I am very much in favor of EVERYONE returning in the least disruptive and most rapid manner. To that end I am in fact concerned about all kids and angry that WTU and their allies are trying to sow chaos and make people fearful about returning.

I think your distinction between IEP and non-IEP kids is a little stark. As with many things, there is a spectrum.

Further, there are kuds who would’ve gotten IEP’s over the last 9 months in a normally functioning world. There are the probable-ADHD kids who don’t have IEPs because they thrive on the structure and focus of in-person school but who are disasters at DL. There are the IEP kids for whom DL has been more manageable.

The point is — it’s not a rigid us and them and you do win no support by belittling the needs of some others.

the point is - it IS “us and them” because the PP doesn’t want to give up anything in order for kids with IEPs to learn in person.

and my comment was more about the social ostracism experienced by many of us moms with SN kids face when they first show their differences as early as preschool. The mom club is sticky sweet about “our school culture” and “empathy” and the like, until faced with being inconvenienced by our kids’ needs.

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Anonymous wrote:How do people think this is a good plan for Students with SN or ELL? They are still receiving all of their special instruction virtually. At best they are getting babysitters. Babysitters who will be setting them up on iPads to receive there services.

Also WTU has been fighting DCPS for months because DCPS violated the law. That is literally what the PERB review showed. Even the council members during the Town Hall Friday expressed dismay at DCPS poor planning and lack of transparency around reopening schools. So blame DCPS for the delay not the people holding them accountable. Unions were created to protect people from unsafe working conditions. Sounds like they are doing their job.

So say you want your children out of your house, say you want things back to normal but don’t say this plan is good for students. And its not safe for anybody. 100’s of kids and teachers in one building. I dont think so. Not for me or my child with SN.

Well, they get their main content live, but their supports virtually. But I see your point - its really hard to say how successful this could possibly be.

So if SN parents don't value the live main content - give the gen ed kids their gen ed teachers back for virtual teaching, and bring in the specialists!!

You clearly have no clue about how special education actually works ... the general Ed teacher is a key component, not just the specialized teachers. it would be better for all the staff to be back, but in person in a small class is 100% better than DL for most kids with IEPs.

I wouldn't say the gen ed teacher is the ket component but one of them.

Without the sped teacher's differentiation to help them access and/or understand the lessons better the in person won't be nearly as strong. It's like sending a sped student without them getting services. They would be a sped student then.

And yes I do know they'll get service virtually but this is a HUGE flaw in this plan. Yes, things will be a bit better with a small class but gen ed teachers do not have the same level of differentiation skills some students need. Not to say this is every gen ed teacher but many.

So this is my worry that the ELL and Sped students will not get as much support as we might actually be thinking.

sure, send the specialists back in person. Great. But all the SN parents I know are sending their kids back.

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Anonymous wrote:I can only imagine the onslaught of angry emails and phone calls when these announcements are made. If my child loses his amazing teacher who has been rocking it at DL I'm going to go nuts.

so privileged. that teacher is going to teach kids who need in-person learning. but hey it’s never been any secret that you all resent “those” kids.

come on, the two are not mutually exclusive. I know everybody wants whats best for SN and at-risk kids, while also not wanting their own kids to lose out on teachers they really love. No need for the hate.

I mean you’re literally trying to stop SN and homeless kids from getting the support they need because you don’t want to switch teachers. It is mutually exclusive. You think your child’s “love” for their teacher means SN kids shouldn’t be able to access the curriculum.

This, exactly! I'm the parent of SN kids and I can't even interact with the idiotic parents at our WOTP elementary who parrot the WTU talking points. How about we shut down schools "only when it's safe" for my kids to access education?

Solidarity sister. I always knew they only cared about their own kids despite all the talk of their values.

I’m think I’m not hearing your concern for their kids. Am I missing something? Should not the effort to understand be mutual?

I don’t think “their” kids will fail if their teacher changes and class size increases modestly. But I know that many kids with IEPs need to be back in person to continue learning. more globally, I am very much in favor of EVERYONE returning in the least disruptive and most rapid manner. To that end I am in fact concerned about all kids and angry that WTU and their allies are trying to sow chaos and make people fearful about returning.

+1. Their kids haven't been back sliding since March. WTU has made it impossible for all families to have an in-person spot with a teacher or even offer hybrid, so DCPS is forced to prioritize. Of course SN kids' ability to access education is prioritized higher than their kids' preferences.

If your kid can learn via DL, then you really don't get it. The fact that these posters were fine with the DL set up they had and don't want to lose it means they can adjust to another DL scenario much more easily than our kids can learn via the current DL model. Our kids aren't learning. Something has to be done.

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Anonymous wrote:How do people think this is a good plan for Students with SN or ELL? They are still receiving all of their special instruction virtually. At best they are getting babysitters. Babysitters who will be setting them up on iPads to receive there services.

Also WTU has been fighting DCPS for months because DCPS violated the law. That is literally what the PERB review showed. Even the council members during the Town Hall Friday expressed dismay at DCPS poor planning and lack of transparency around reopening schools. So blame DCPS for the delay not the people holding them accountable. Unions were created to protect people from unsafe working conditions. Sounds like they are doing their job.

So say you want your children out of your house, say you want things back to normal but don’t say this plan is good for students. And its not safe for anybody. 100’s of kids and teachers in one building. I dont think so. Not for me or my child with SN.

Well, they get their main content live, but their supports virtually. But I see your point - its really hard to say how successful this could possibly be.

So if SN parents don't value the live main content - give the gen ed kids their gen ed teachers back for virtual teaching, and bring in the specialists!!

You clearly have no clue about how special education actually works ... the general Ed teacher is a key component, not just the specialized teachers. it would be better for all the staff to be back, but in person in a small class is 100% better than DL for most kids with IEPs.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here, WOW.

My thread has been hijacked. I just wanted to know if anyone knew when teachers would know assignments

I wish we knew. Every time my outlook pings I flinch. The only thing we seem to know is that 11/2 is the last day as is.

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Anonymous wrote:I can only imagine the onslaught of angry emails and phone calls when these announcements are made. If my child loses his amazing teacher who has been rocking it at DL I'm going to go nuts.

so privileged. that teacher is going to teach kids who need in-person learning. but hey it’s never been any secret that you all resent “those” kids.

come on, the two are not mutually exclusive. I know everybody wants whats best for SN and at-risk kids, while also not wanting their own kids to lose out on teachers they really love. No need for the hate.

I mean you’re literally trying to stop SN and homeless kids from getting the support they need because you don’t want to switch teachers. It is mutually exclusive. You think your child’s “love” for their teacher means SN kids shouldn’t be able to access the curriculum.

This, exactly! I'm the parent of SN kids and I can't even interact with the idiotic parents at our WOTP elementary who parrot the WTU talking points. How about we shut down schools "only when it's safe" for my kids to access education?

Solidarity sister. I always knew they only cared about their own kids despite all the talk of their values.

I’m think I’m not hearing your concern for their kids. Am I missing something? Should not the effort to understand be mutual?

I don’t think “their” kids will fail if their teacher changes and class size increases modestly. But I know that many kids with IEPs need to be back in person to continue learning. more globally, I am very much in favor of EVERYONE returning in the least disruptive and most rapid manner. To that end I am in fact concerned about all kids and angry that WTU and their allies are trying to sow chaos and make people fearful about returning.

I think your distinction between IEP and non-IEP kids is a little stark. As with many things, there is a spectrum.

Further, there are kuds who would’ve gotten IEP’s over the last 9 months in a normally functioning world. There are the probable-ADHD kids who don’t have IEPs because they thrive on the structure and focus of in-person school but who are disasters at DL. There are the IEP kids for whom DL has been more manageable.

The point is — it’s not a rigid us and them and you do win no support by belittling the needs of some others.

the point is - it IS “us and them” because the PP doesn’t want to give up anything in order for kids with IEPs to learn in person.

and my comment was more about the social ostracism experienced by many of us moms with SN kids face when they first show their differences as early as preschool. The mom club is sticky sweet about “our school culture” and “empathy” and the like, until faced with being inconvenienced by our kids’ needs.

But that’s back to the incompetence of this plan. It shouldn’t require a bunch of people to give up the little good they have (after weeks of classes building community) for other students to get what they need.

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Anonymous wrote:How do people think this is a good plan for Students with SN or ELL? They are still receiving all of their special instruction virtually. At best they are getting babysitters. Babysitters who will be setting them up on iPads to receive there services.

Also WTU has been fighting DCPS for months because DCPS violated the law. That is literally what the PERB review showed. Even the council members during the Town Hall Friday expressed dismay at DCPS poor planning and lack of transparency around reopening schools. So blame DCPS for the delay not the people holding them accountable. Unions were created to protect people from unsafe working conditions. Sounds like they are doing their job.

So say you want your children out of your house, say you want things back to normal but don’t say this plan is good for students. And its not safe for anybody. 100’s of kids and teachers in one building. I dont think so. Not for me or my child with SN.

they are getting an actual teacher, not a “babysitter.” you sound confused about the plan and clueless about special education.

So how do you think this will look? 8-10 children with special needs in one classroom. Teacher is constantly managing them to remain separated and masked all day. A Teacher that is possibly not the one they had prior to this so pretty much restarting the year building relationships. Teacher setting up students at different times to receive their hours from their specialists. While trying to keep some students on iPads also making sure other students remain on task, masked and separated. No push in hours for students (where teacher is teaching but students with SN are receiving individualized support). Many accommodations and tactics teachers use to make learning possible during live instruction is useless because teachers also need to maintain distance. So yes traditionally live instruction is the best for ALL students especially students with SN. But this is not traditional times. Live instruction will look nothing like what school has looked before. So teachers while they are certainly qualified will be doing a lot less “teaching” and more “babysitting” or just “managing”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here, WOW.

My thread has been hijacked. I just wanted to know if anyone knew when teachers would know assignments

OP, your question was answered in the first response on page 1!

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Anonymous wrote:How do people think this is a good plan for Students with SN or ELL? They are still receiving all of their special instruction virtually. At best they are getting babysitters. Babysitters who will be setting them up on iPads to receive there services.

Also WTU has been fighting DCPS for months because DCPS violated the law. That is literally what the PERB review showed. Even the council members during the Town Hall Friday expressed dismay at DCPS poor planning and lack of transparency around reopening schools. So blame DCPS for the delay not the people holding them accountable. Unions were created to protect people from unsafe working conditions. Sounds like they are doing their job.

So say you want your children out of your house, say you want things back to normal but don’t say this plan is good for students. And its not safe for anybody. 100’s of kids and teachers in one building. I dont think so. Not for me or my child with SN.

Well, they get their main content live, but their supports virtually. But I see your point - its really hard to say how successful this could possibly be.

So if SN parents don't value the live main content - give the gen ed kids their gen ed teachers back for virtual teaching, and bring in the specialists!!

You clearly have no clue about how special education actually works ... the general Ed teacher is a key component, not just the specialized teachers. it would be better for all the staff to be back, but in person in a small class is 100% better than DL for most kids with IEPs.

I wouldn't say the gen ed teacher is the ket component but one of them.

Without the sped teacher's differentiation to help them access and/or understand the lessons better the in person won't be nearly as strong. It's like sending a sped student without them getting services. They would be a sped student then.

And yes I do know they'll get service virtually but this is a HUGE flaw in this plan. Yes, things will be a bit better with a small class but gen ed teachers do not have the same level of differentiation skills some students need. Not to say this is every gen ed teacher but many.

So this is my worry that the ELL and Sped students will not get as much support as we might actually be thinking.

sure, send the specialists back in person. Great. But all the SN parents I know are sending their kids back.

Well yea at your little NW schools. Since there will be WAY less homeless or at risk kids, depending on the school a lot of ELL kids.

That poor gen ed NW teacher is not prepared. 11 kids with SN in one class....

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Anonymous wrote:How do people think this is a good plan for Students with SN or ELL? They are still receiving all of their special instruction virtually. At best they are getting babysitters. Babysitters who will be setting them up on iPads to receive there services.

Also WTU has been fighting DCPS for months because DCPS violated the law. That is literally what the PERB review showed. Even the council members during the Town Hall Friday expressed dismay at DCPS poor planning and lack of transparency around reopening schools. So blame DCPS for the delay not the people holding them accountable. Unions were created to protect people from unsafe working conditions. Sounds like they are doing their job.

So say you want your children out of your house, say you want things back to normal but don’t say this plan is good for students. And its not safe for anybody. 100’s of kids and teachers in one building. I dont think so. Not for me or my child with SN.

they are getting an actual teacher, not a “babysitter.” you sound confused about the plan and clueless about special education.

So how do you think this will look? 8-10 children with special needs in one classroom. Teacher is constantly managing them to remain separated and masked all day. A Teacher that is possibly not the one they had prior to this so pretty much restarting the year building relationships. Teacher setting up students at different times to receive their hours from their specialists. While trying to keep some students on iPads also making sure other students remain on task, masked and separated. No push in hours for students (where teacher is teaching but students with SN are receiving individualized support). Many accommodations and tactics teachers use to make learning possible during live instruction is useless because teachers also need to maintain distance. So yes traditionally live instruction is the best for ALL students especially students with SN. But this is not traditional times. Live instruction will look nothing like what school has looked before. So teachers while they are certainly qualified will be doing a lot less “teaching” and more “babysitting” or just “managing”.

Agree, what you all don't know is there has been A LOT of gen ed teachers in the background who are scared. Generally they have behavioral supports, if a child gets out of control someone comes to help. They DO NOT deal with it themselves. They also receive support from the sped teacher, who will deliver services how?

Who's doing the pull out? Because push in sure as heck will be a show.

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Anonymous wrote:I can only imagine the onslaught of angry emails and phone calls when these announcements are made. If my child loses his amazing teacher who has been rocking it at DL I'm going to go nuts.

Ugh. Same.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How do people think this is a good plan for Students with SN or ELL? They are still receiving all of their special instruction virtually. At best they are getting babysitters. Babysitters who will be setting them up on iPads to receive there services.

Also WTU has been fighting DCPS for months because DCPS violated the law. That is literally what the PERB review showed. Even the council members during the Town Hall Friday expressed dismay at DCPS poor planning and lack of transparency around reopening schools. So blame DCPS for the delay not the people holding them accountable. Unions were created to protect people from unsafe working conditions. Sounds like they are doing their job.

So say you want your children out of your house, say you want things back to normal but don’t say this plan is good for students. And its not safe for anybody. 100’s of kids and teachers in one building. I dont think so. Not for me or my child with SN.

they are getting an actual teacher, not a “babysitter.” you sound confused about the plan and clueless about special education.

So how do you think this will look? 8-10 children with special needs in one classroom. Teacher is constantly managing them to remain separated and masked all day. A Teacher that is possibly not the one they had prior to this so pretty much restarting the year building relationships. Teacher setting up students at different times to receive their hours from their specialists. While trying to keep some students on iPads also making sure other students remain on task, masked and separated. No push in hours for students (where teacher is teaching but students with SN are receiving individualized support). Many accommodations and tactics teachers use to make learning possible during live instruction is useless because teachers also need to maintain distance. So yes traditionally live instruction is the best for ALL students especially students with SN. But this is not traditional times. Live instruction will look nothing like what school has looked before. So teachers while they are certainly qualified will be doing a lot less “teaching” and more “babysitting” or just “managing”.

I think it will be a lot better than DL, the end. The lack of push-in is helped by the much smaller class size.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How do people think this is a good plan for Students with SN or ELL? They are still receiving all of their special instruction virtually. At best they are getting babysitters. Babysitters who will be setting them up on iPads to receive there services.

Also WTU has been fighting DCPS for months because DCPS violated the law. That is literally what the PERB review showed. Even the council members during the Town Hall Friday expressed dismay at DCPS poor planning and lack of transparency around reopening schools. So blame DCPS for the delay not the people holding them accountable. Unions were created to protect people from unsafe working conditions. Sounds like they are doing their job.

So say you want your children out of your house, say you want things back to normal but don’t say this plan is good for students. And its not safe for anybody. 100’s of kids and teachers in one building. I dont think so. Not for me or my child with SN.

they are getting an actual teacher, not a “babysitter.” you sound confused about the plan and clueless about special education.

So how do you think this will look? 8-10 children with special needs in one classroom. Teacher is constantly managing them to remain separated and masked all day. A Teacher that is possibly not the one they had prior to this so pretty much restarting the year building relationships. Teacher setting up students at different times to receive their hours from their specialists. While trying to keep some students on iPads also making sure other students remain on task, masked and separated. No push in hours for students (where teacher is teaching but students with SN are receiving individualized support). Many accommodations and tactics teachers use to make learning possible during live instruction is useless because teachers also need to maintain distance. So yes traditionally live instruction is the best for ALL students especially students with SN. But this is not traditional times. Live instruction will look nothing like what school has looked before. So teachers while they are certainly qualified will be doing a lot less “teaching” and more “babysitting” or just “managing”.

Agree, what you all don't know is there has been A LOT of gen ed teachers in the background who are scared. Generally they have behavioral supports, if a child gets out of control someone comes to help. They DO NOT deal with it themselves. They also receive support from the sped teacher, who will deliver services how?

Who's doing the pull out? Because push in sure as heck will be a show.

OH FFS!!! Now they are scared of handling HALF the number of kids they usually do? I’m starting to think teachers are “scared” of everything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can only imagine the onslaught of angry emails and phone calls when these announcements are made. If my child loses his amazing teacher who has been rocking it at DL I'm going to go nuts.

Ugh. Same.

I feel the same way too. I fully understand and support the need to get specific groups back into the classroom. But I can still be annoyed by how disruptive the current plan is to the other 84% in my DC's grade.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I just want to say how much it sucks that teachers haven't been given any sort of insight about where they'll be spending their days starting in a couple of weeks. This is your career! This whole plan is so messed up.

you do realize that delays in staffing assignments are being directly caused by WTU’s lawsuit throwing out DCPS’s teacher survey, right?

No. These delays are caused by DCPS not fairly negotiating, as PERB found to be true.