TJ Admissions - Speak to Senator Warner

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is a camouflaged way of getting more white kids in using a URM smoke screen. Basically it will be a white majority school soon. It is all about not so enlightened self-interest.

btw we should be talking about quotas in spelling bee too. Maybe penalize folks for the wrong accent or color?


Anonymous wrote:the American way is about taking the best and brightest and most talented aka the land of opportunity

now overly woke SJW democrats want everything to be about race well actually just about some races (URM) it total and complete bs


look around, white kids don't want to be there. It's not remotely worth the effort- most kids are much better positioned for college staying in their pyramid school, the social life comes across as misery and the travel distance precludes most activities


This is true. Some Asians act like there’s some big white conspiracy to take over TJ when all but a few white families lost interest in that place many years ago. It’s mostly URMs pushing to change the admissions policies now, but the crazy Asians defending the status quo decided it would be more PC to respond by attacking whites instead. It’s a dangerous strategy that leads everyone else to dislike the current TJ crowd even more.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is a camouflaged way of getting more white kids in using a URM smoke screen. Basically it will be a white majority school soon. It is all about not so enlightened self-interest.

btw we should be talking about quotas in spelling bee too. Maybe penalize folks for the wrong accent or color?


Anonymous wrote:the American way is about taking the best and brightest and most talented aka the land of opportunity

now overly woke SJW democrats want everything to be about race well actually just about some races (URM) it total and complete bs


look around, white kids don't want to be there. It's not remotely worth the effort- most kids are much better positioned for college staying in their pyramid school, the social life comes across as misery and the travel distance precludes most activities


+1. My DS was accepted but liked the social diversity of his base school. If he was STEM PhD or engineering bound, he would have gone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is a camouflaged way of getting more white kids in using a URM smoke screen. Basically it will be a white majority school soon. It is all about not so enlightened self-interest.

btw we should be talking about quotas in spelling bee too. Maybe penalize folks for the wrong accent or color?


Anonymous wrote:the American way is about taking the best and brightest and most talented aka the land of opportunity

now overly woke SJW democrats want everything to be about race well actually just about some races (URM) it total and complete bs


look around, white kids don't want to be there. It's not remotely worth the effort- most kids are much better positioned for college staying in their pyramid school, the social life comes across as misery and the travel distance precludes most activities


+1. My DS was accepted but liked the social diversity of his base school. If he was STEM PhD or engineering bound, he would have gone.


Adding to say we’re against a lottery though. So idiotic. Lottery winners will crash and burn or the school drastically lowers its standards. Want to help URMs? Start in sixth grade. And it’s easy to make a less prepable test. The proposed changes are not aimed to illicitly aid whites. Anyone who really follows the board knows that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is a camouflaged way of getting more white kids in using a URM smoke screen. Basically it will be a white majority school soon. It is all about not so enlightened self-interest.

btw we should be talking about quotas in spelling bee too. Maybe penalize folks for the wrong accent or color?


Anonymous wrote:the American way is about taking the best and brightest and most talented aka the land of opportunity

now overly woke SJW democrats want everything to be about race well actually just about some races (URM) it total and complete bs


look around, white kids don't want to be there. It's not remotely worth the effort- most kids are much better positioned for college staying in their pyramid school, the social life comes across as misery and the travel distance precludes most activities


+1. My DS was accepted but liked the social diversity of his base school. If he was STEM PhD or engineering bound, he would have gone.


Adding to say we’re against a lottery though. So idiotic. Lottery winners will crash and burn or the school drastically lowers its standards. Want to help URMs? Start in sixth grade. And it’s easy to make a less prepable test. The proposed changes are not aimed to illicitly aid whites. Anyone who really follows the board knows that.


Oh, you’re in favor of a lottery. It’s just a different one than the one you’re so angry about.
Anonymous
Not to worry. And easy with the threats. The 'crazy Asians' as you call them will work hard to find a way to support the kids and the community. They are Americans making positive contributions to their society. It will be good to support TJ, and keep it a great school while being inclusive. However, it is not an end-all. People will move on. Cheers!


Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is a camouflaged way of getting more white kids in using a URM smoke screen. Basically it will be a white majority school soon. It is all about not so enlightened self-interest.

btw we should be talking about quotas in spelling bee too. Maybe penalize folks for the wrong accent or color?


Anonymous wrote:the American way is about taking the best and brightest and most talented aka the land of opportunity

now overly woke SJW democrats want everything to be about race well actually just about some races (URM) it total and complete bs


look around, white kids don't want to be there. It's not remotely worth the effort- most kids are much better positioned for college staying in their pyramid school, the social life comes across as misery and the travel distance precludes most activities


This is true. Some Asians act like there’s some big white conspiracy to take over TJ when all but a few white families lost interest in that place many years ago. It’s mostly URMs pushing to change the admissions policies now, but the crazy Asians defending the status quo decided it would be more PC to respond by attacking whites instead. It’s a dangerous strategy that leads everyone else to dislike the current TJ crowd even more.
Anonymous
"Some Asians act like there’s some big white conspiracy to take over TJ when all but a few white families lost interest in that place many years ago. It’s mostly URMs pushing to change the admissions policies now, but the crazy Asians defending the status quo decided it would be more PC to respond by attacking whites instead. It’s a dangerous strategy that leads everyone else to dislike the current TJ crowd EVEN MORE."

Oh dear, rustled. Apologies woke white person. I'm sorry you will dislike us EVEN MORE - like we care. LOL
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:More from Vern Williams - sorry I just read this and had to share:

"During my forty-plus years as an FCPS teacher I always made clear that I would never view my students through a racial or cultural lens. I am part of the old school crowd who still believes, as did Martin Luther King, that one should be judged not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. The “One Fairfax” doctrine seems to suggest the opposite view. I sense that changing the TJ Admissions process is only the beginning. Every program for advanced/gifted students ranging from AP participation to AAP will be viewed through a racial lens instead of an academic/readiness lens. I feel that they will be diluted to the point of non-existence."


Mr. Williams had been the best math teacher in FCPS. He knows more about education than all the SB members combined. Sadly people like him are retiring and the quality of public school education keeps going down.
Anonymous
I’m surprised they aren’t soliciting Vern Williams’s opinion, or even listening to him when he proffers it. This is enough evidence that they do not have equity or helping URMs in mind.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is a camouflaged way of getting more white kids in using a URM smoke screen. Basically it will be a white majority school soon. It is all about not so enlightened self-interest.

btw we should be talking about quotas in spelling bee too. Maybe penalize folks for the wrong accent or color?


Anonymous wrote:the American way is about taking the best and brightest and most talented aka the land of opportunity

now overly woke SJW democrats want everything to be about race well actually just about some races (URM) it total and complete bs


look around, white kids don't want to be there. It's not remotely worth the effort- most kids are much better positioned for college staying in their pyramid school, the social life comes across as misery and the travel distance precludes most activities


+1. My DS was accepted but liked the social diversity of his base school. If he was STEM PhD or engineering bound, he would have gone.


Adding to say we’re against a lottery though. So idiotic. Lottery winners will crash and burn or the school drastically lowers its standards. Want to help URMs? Start in sixth grade. And it’s easy to make a less prepable test. The proposed changes are not aimed to illicitly aid whites. Anyone who really follows the board knows that.


Oh, you’re in favor of a lottery. It’s just a different one than the one you’re so angry about.


Actually, no. And am not angry. Sorry your kid didn’t get in.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is a camouflaged way of getting more white kids in using a URM smoke screen. Basically it will be a white majority school soon. It is all about not so enlightened self-interest.

btw we should be talking about quotas in spelling bee too. Maybe penalize folks for the wrong accent or color?


Anonymous wrote:the American way is about taking the best and brightest and most talented aka the land of opportunity

now overly woke SJW democrats want everything to be about race well actually just about some races (URM) it total and complete bs


look around, white kids don't want to be there. It's not remotely worth the effort- most kids are much better positioned for college staying in their pyramid school, the social life comes across as misery and the travel distance precludes most activities


This is true. Some Asians act like there’s some big white conspiracy to take over TJ when all but a few white families lost interest in that place many years ago. It’s mostly URMs pushing to change the admissions policies now, but the crazy Asians defending the status quo decided it would be more PC to respond by attacking whites instead. It’s a dangerous strategy that leads everyone else to dislike the current TJ crowd even more.


Speak for yourself. You don't represent everyone else. You don't represent whites. They couldn't care less people like you hate Asians even more. You are a lost cause.

The woke ideology is not pushed by URMs. It is pushed by radical left whites. You don't have to listen to me. Listen to Bill Maher, a true liberal who actually makes some sense.

Asians will be pushed to vote for republicans to counter that hate coming from the radical left.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who cares? It's a local matter and not within his jurisdiction as a U.S. Senator.


True, but he does have a leadership role in the Democratic Party in this state. The optics of the changes are bad.

The lowering of the standards will hurt all students alike, regardless of race. NAACP missed their chance to use the low URM enrollment at TJ as evidence that they need better programs at the schools serving URMs. That would have actually addressed the issue at its roots, and would have benefited att the URMs at those schools. Instead, our local NAACP person pushed for equality in admittance to a merit school. She is either thinking backwards or really does not care about the URM population at large


the optics are not bad.

The best case is that TJ matches the diversity of the county. When it doesn, when no African Americans and no Hispanics, that is bad optics.




it should be taking the best students period. Race should have nothing to do with it


No you are wrong

Disadvantaged groups should have help

That is the American way

Don’t impose your caste system here


Wrong , america is capitalism idiot, not socialist
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is a camouflaged way of getting more white kids in using a URM smoke screen. Basically it will be a white majority school soon. It is all about not so enlightened self-interest.

btw we should be talking about quotas in spelling bee too. Maybe penalize folks for the wrong accent or color?


Anonymous wrote:the American way is about taking the best and brightest and most talented aka the land of opportunity

now overly woke SJW democrats want everything to be about race well actually just about some races (URM) it total and complete bs


look around, white kids don't want to be there. It's not remotely worth the effort- most kids are much better positioned for college staying in their pyramid school, the social life comes across as misery and the travel distance precludes most activities


This is true. Some Asians act like there’s some big white conspiracy to take over TJ when all but a few white families lost interest in that place many years ago. It’s mostly URMs pushing to change the admissions policies now, but the crazy Asians defending the status quo decided it would be more PC to respond by attacking whites instead. It’s a dangerous strategy that leads everyone else to dislike the current TJ crowd even more.


Speak for yourself. You don't represent everyone else. You don't represent whites. They couldn't care less people like you hate Asians even more. You are a lost cause.

The woke ideology is not pushed by URMs. It is pushed by radical left whites. You don't have to listen to me. Listen to Bill Maher, a true liberal who actually makes some sense.

Asians will be pushed to vote for republicans to counter that hate coming from the radical left.


Asians don't need to be pushed to vote for Republicans, they have always voted Republicans in majority. Nothing new here
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is a camouflaged way of getting more white kids in using a URM smoke screen. Basically it will be a white majority school soon. It is all about not so enlightened self-interest.

btw we should be talking about quotas in spelling bee too. Maybe penalize folks for the wrong accent or color?


Anonymous wrote:the American way is about taking the best and brightest and most talented aka the land of opportunity

now overly woke SJW democrats want everything to be about race well actually just about some races (URM) it total and complete bs


look around, white kids don't want to be there. It's not remotely worth the effort- most kids are much better positioned for college staying in their pyramid school, the social life comes across as misery and the travel distance precludes most activities


This is true. Some Asians act like there’s some big white conspiracy to take over TJ when all but a few white families lost interest in that place many years ago. It’s mostly URMs pushing to change the admissions policies now, but the crazy Asians defending the status quo decided it would be more PC to respond by attacking whites instead. It’s a dangerous strategy that leads everyone else to dislike the current TJ crowd even more.


Speak for yourself. You don't represent everyone else. You don't represent whites. They couldn't care less people like you hate Asians even more. You are a lost cause.

The woke ideology is not pushed by URMs. It is pushed by radical left whites. You don't have to listen to me. Listen to Bill Maher, a true liberal who actually makes some sense.

Asians will be pushed to vote for republicans to counter that hate coming from the radical left.


Asians don't need to be pushed to vote for Republicans, they have always voted Republicans in majority. Nothing new here


This is nonsense. Asian Americans gave Obama 62% of their vote the first time around and a whopping 73% in his second term.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems the following conclusions can be drawn from the action of canceling the admissions test.

1. Parents who care = bad. If parents didn't care, they won't encourage their kids to work hard and without working hard, you won't get into TJ or do well there. If there are lotteries, parents just have to enroll. That's easy.
2. Brown people (possibly the dominant color in TJ) are being racially victimized by the action of removing a race-blind test to enforce geographic/demographic quotas.
3. A top-notch school is being taken down because it has the wrong minority. The big loser is going to be Fairfax county.

I am a hugely involved democrat who has been working hard over the last few months for a Democrat victory. I am definitely questioning my own actions, and beliefs of the supposedly anti-racist party that I have been supporting.

Sigh!


Vote democratic at the Federal level, republican at the local level. That's how you get a government aligned with your values with checks and balances at the local level.


So a government not aligned with your values at the national level is what you want?

Sounds more to me like denial.
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