Does this sound right??

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Anonymous wrote:You can find a lower cost nanny share with a good nanny.

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Nannies with graduate degrees, skill with multiple foreign languages, and lots of experience are popular with wealthier CH families. But you can find younger nannies who are great for a lot less money.

Also, a secret: every one of those super high-paid nannies is also sitting at the park, staring at their phone, while the kids they watch play. Maybe they do more around the house, maybe little Caroline or whatever is becoming fluent in French (she is not). But the truth is, those nannies are doing exactly what parents would be doing — shooting the shit with their friends and texting.

Save your money. You need someone reliable who has good rapport with your kid and can pass a background check. The rest is window dressing.

Total BS. The nannies that I know who are paid accordingly are interacting with their charges, handling some online schooling, have First Aid/CPR training and usually care about their jobs. I'm sorry you have had a bad experience but no, nannies do not spend their days shooting the shit with their friends and texting. As far as the parents, well you might be right about that but again they are doing it for free.

NP. I've been to a gazillion of parks in ritzy Bethesda. Everybody, absolutely everybody sits on their ass. It's life, not BS.

And you know what all of them are doing?

When I’m at the park, I:
1. Take pictures and videos of my charges, without them realizing.
2. Upload those to the family dropbox account for the parents and whoever else they authorize (sometimes grandparents, once an aunt).
3. Email the parents about any concerns, schedule changes, and anything I’m seeing (growth or delay) while at the park.
4. Check texts and email from the parents and texting other parents and caregivers to arrange play dates.
5. Call caregivers who prefer calls to text and email.
6. Research activities for home and out of the house (I don’t usually work with toddlers, rarely with infants, so no nap time to do it).
7. Look at tracking comparing my charges’ current abilities to long-term goals, make a list of short-term goals to work towards long-term.
8. Research games and songs to support short and long-term goals.

My employers are fine with all of the above. Why do you get to judge what is and is not okay for someone else’s nanny?

Nanny here and I don’t buy it. You know you don’t do those things every day and none of them take the entire time you’re at the park. And it’s unsafe to take your eyes off toddlers for that long.

My charges are always 3+ if I’m doing it. Yes, I run through that list everyday, that way I stay on top of everything. And no, no one item takes all of the time; however, I take pictures and videos on/off, trying to capture silly and sweet moments, and I do spend time choosing which to upload.

Again, my employers are fine with what I do. What aren’t you?

Because it’s unsafe, PP. What your employers are “fine with” is not the issue. It’s unsafe and unprofessional.

+1. My employers are fine with giving my 20 month old charge while grapes, whole cashews and popcorn - but it still doesn’t render those things safe. Aside from snapping a few photos, nannies should not be on their phones in a public place. All of the first PP’s phone chores can be accomplished when the kids are home and in a safe environment.

Again, no they can’t. My charges are 3+. I rotate them through quiet time, so that I have 1-1 teaching opportunities. There is no time during my workday to accomplish those tasks.

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Anonymous wrote:You can find a lower cost nanny share with a good nanny.

+1

Nannies with graduate degrees, skill with multiple foreign languages, and lots of experience are popular with wealthier CH families. But you can find younger nannies who are great for a lot less money.

Also, a secret: every one of those super high-paid nannies is also sitting at the park, staring at their phone, while the kids they watch play. Maybe they do more around the house, maybe little Caroline or whatever is becoming fluent in French (she is not). But the truth is, those nannies are doing exactly what parents would be doing — shooting the shit with their friends and texting.

Save your money. You need someone reliable who has good rapport with your kid and can pass a background check. The rest is window dressing.

Total BS. The nannies that I know who are paid accordingly are interacting with their charges, handling some online schooling, have First Aid/CPR training and usually care about their jobs. I'm sorry you have had a bad experience but no, nannies do not spend their days shooting the shit with their friends and texting. As far as the parents, well you might be right about that but again they are doing it for free.

NP. I've been to a gazillion of parks in ritzy Bethesda. Everybody, absolutely everybody sits on their ass. It's life, not BS.

And you know what all of them are doing?

When I’m at the park, I:
1. Take pictures and videos of my charges, without them realizing.
2. Upload those to the family dropbox account for the parents and whoever else they authorize (sometimes grandparents, once an aunt).
3. Email the parents about any concerns, schedule changes, and anything I’m seeing (growth or delay) while at the park.
4. Check texts and email from the parents and texting other parents and caregivers to arrange play dates.
5. Call caregivers who prefer calls to text and email.
6. Research activities for home and out of the house (I don’t usually work with toddlers, rarely with infants, so no nap time to do it).
7. Look at tracking comparing my charges’ current abilities to long-term goals, make a list of short-term goals to work towards long-term.
8. Research games and songs to support short and long-term goals.

My employers are fine with all of the above. Why do you get to judge what is and is not okay for someone else’s nanny?

Nanny here and I don’t buy it. You know you don’t do those things every day and none of them take the entire time you’re at the park. And it’s unsafe to take your eyes off toddlers for that long.

My charges are always 3+ if I’m doing it. Yes, I run through that list everyday, that way I stay on top of everything. And no, no one item takes all of the time; however, I take pictures and videos on/off, trying to capture silly and sweet moments, and I do spend time choosing which to upload.

Again, my employers are fine with what I do. What aren’t you?

Because it’s unsafe, PP. What your employers are “fine with” is not the issue. It’s unsafe and unprofessional.

+1. My employers are fine with giving my 20 month old charge while grapes, whole cashews and popcorn - but it still doesn’t render those things safe. Aside from snapping a few photos, nannies should not be on their phones in a public place. All of the first PP’s phone chores can be accomplished when the kids are home and in a safe environment.

Again, no they can’t. My charges are 3+. I rotate them through quiet time, so that I have 1-1 teaching opportunities. There is no time during my workday to accomplish those tasks.

I do not believe you for one second and neither does anyone else. You are on your phone in the park because your employers have cameras in the house. I’m a nanny and I know how to structure a day to take care of incidentals on my phone when the kids are safe at home.

You aren’t fooling anyone and you’re giving nannies a bad name. Plus, as stated by other nannies, it is unsafe to not have eyes on your charges constantly in public places.

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How many hours? Absurd for 40, high end but not crazy at all if 50. More than 50, totally normal.

And of course a nanny share is more expensive than daycare. That was true before COVID, so it’s obviously true now.

FWIW, for 50 hours/week of care on Capitol Hill all in, I pay my nanny $70K. That’s 3 kids (no infants) but one family.

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Anonymous wrote:How many hours? Absurd for 40, high end but not crazy at all if 50. More than 50, totally normal.

And of course a nanny share is more expensive than daycare. That was true before COVID, so it’s obviously true now.

FWIW, for 50 hours/week of care on Capitol Hill all in, I pay my nanny $70K. That’s 3 kids (no infants) but one family.

+1. OP's post is useless without telling us how many hours is being used.
If 50 hours, I could see it happen, with caveat that this nanny is a great nanny. Average nannies don't command that rate.

There is a WIDE variance in rates depending on quality of nanny. I have found someone below average at $11/hr and kept her a year. When I could afford more, I found an excellent nanny at $20/hr in 2019.

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Anonymous wrote:We're considering joining a nanny share. The nanny will be watching two 1 year-olds and is highly experienced and qualified.

We just learned that the expected cost (paying above board and with a healthcare stipend) is almost $3300/month JUST FOR OUR HALF OF THE NANNYSHARE!!

Is this normal for DC? We're in the Capitol Hill area.

Thanks for any input. We're new to the nanny share world and I am having sticker shock, for sure.

Also, how much is daycare/month on average?

Let’s do the math on it, then.

$3300/month * 12mon/yr. = $39600/yr
$39600/yr / 52wk/yr = $761.54/wk
$761.54/wk / 5days/wk = $152.31/day

That’s a little high, but not astronomical.

Ok, backtrack a bit. You don’t state the hours or rare, so let’s look at that.

$761.54/wk / 40hours/wk = $19.04/hr if it’s 40 hours, no overtime. That’s a bit high.
$761.54/wk / 47.5hours/wk (45 worked hours, 5 hours overtime at 1.5x) = $16.03/hr That’s more reasonable, and during covid, you’ll be hard pressed to find lower.
$761.54/wk / 55hours/wk (50 worked hours, 10 hours overtime at 1.5x) = $13.85/hr That’s a steal, especially during covid.

So, how many hours and what’s the rate? Also, what are the qualifications (education, experience, target language)? Talking solely in terms of gross monthly is not really possible.

If I was paying my own nanny sure - that’s fine. But for a share?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We're considering joining a nanny share. The nanny will be watching two 1 year-olds and is highly experienced and qualified.

We just learned that the expected cost (paying above board and with a healthcare stipend) is almost $3300/month JUST FOR OUR HALF OF THE NANNYSHARE!!

Is this normal for DC? We're in the Capitol Hill area.

Thanks for any input. We're new to the nanny share world and I am having sticker shock, for sure.

Also, how much is daycare/month on average?

Let’s do the math on it, then.

$3300/month * 12mon/yr. = $39600/yr
$39600/yr / 52wk/yr = $761.54/wk
$761.54/wk / 5days/wk = $152.31/day

That’s a little high, but not astronomical.

Ok, backtrack a bit. You don’t state the hours or rare, so let’s look at that.

$761.54/wk / 40hours/wk = $19.04/hr if it’s 40 hours, no overtime. That’s a bit high.
$761.54/wk / 47.5hours/wk (45 worked hours, 5 hours overtime at 1.5x) = $16.03/hr That’s more reasonable, and during covid, you’ll be hard pressed to find lower.
$761.54/wk / 55hours/wk (50 worked hours, 10 hours overtime at 1.5x) = $13.85/hr That’s a steal, especially during covid.

So, how many hours and what’s the rate? Also, what are the qualifications (education, experience, target language)? Talking solely in terms of gross monthly is not really possible.

If I was paying my own nanny sure - that’s fine. But for a share?

During covid? Yes. And anything under $18 is share rates. So anything over 41.5 hours makes it a share rate.

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Anonymous wrote:How many hours? Absurd for 40, high end but not crazy at all if 50. More than 50, totally normal.

And of course a nanny share is more expensive than daycare. That was true before COVID, so it’s obviously true now.

FWIW, for 50 hours/week of care on Capitol Hill all in, I pay my nanny $70K. That’s 3 kids (no infants) but one family.

+1. OP's post is useless without telling us how many hours is being used.
If 50 hours, I could see it happen, with caveat that this nanny is a great nanny. Average nannies don't command that rate.

There is a WIDE variance in rates depending on quality of nanny. I have found someone below average at $11/hr and kept her a year. When I could afford more, I found an excellent nanny at $20/hr in 2019.

OP here. It’s for 45 hours. We went ahead with it because all of the other options we were finding had a similar cost or were much, much less desirable.

Thanks to all for the input!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many hours? Absurd for 40, high end but not crazy at all if 50. More than 50, totally normal.

And of course a nanny share is more expensive than daycare. That was true before COVID, so it’s obviously true now.

FWIW, for 50 hours/week of care on Capitol Hill all in, I pay my nanny $70K. That’s 3 kids (no infants) but one family.

+1. OP's post is useless without telling us how many hours is being used.
If 50 hours, I could see it happen, with caveat that this nanny is a great nanny. Average nannies don't command that rate.

There is a WIDE variance in rates depending on quality of nanny. I have found someone below average at $11/hr and kept her a year. When I could afford more, I found an excellent nanny at $20/hr in 2019.

OP here. It’s for 45 hours. We went ahead with it because all of the other options we were finding had a similar cost or were much, much less desirable.

OP again - I should have said... thanks for the input except for the off-topic Bethesda park nanny phone people.
Thanks to all for the input!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many hours? Absurd for 40, high end but not crazy at all if 50. More than 50, totally normal.

And of course a nanny share is more expensive than daycare. That was true before COVID, so it’s obviously true now.

FWIW, for 50 hours/week of care on Capitol Hill all in, I pay my nanny $70K. That’s 3 kids (no infants) but one family.

+1. OP's post is useless without telling us how many hours is being used.
If 50 hours, I could see it happen, with caveat that this nanny is a great nanny. Average nannies don't command that rate.

There is a WIDE variance in rates depending on quality of nanny. I have found someone below average at $11/hr and kept her a year. When I could afford more, I found an excellent nanny at $20/hr in 2019.

OP here. It’s for 45 hours. We went ahead with it because all of the other options we were finding had a similar cost or were much, much less desirable.

Thanks to all for the input!

Precisely what I said. For 40 hours, it’s a bit high (but not outrageous during covid). For 45, it’s reasonable, and if it had been 50 hours, it would be a steal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many hours? Absurd for 40, high end but not crazy at all if 50. More than 50, totally normal.

And of course a nanny share is more expensive than daycare. That was true before COVID, so it’s obviously true now.

FWIW, for 50 hours/week of care on Capitol Hill all in, I pay my nanny $70K. That’s 3 kids (no infants) but one family.

+1. OP's post is useless without telling us how many hours is being used.
If 50 hours, I could see it happen, with caveat that this nanny is a great nanny. Average nannies don't command that rate.

There is a WIDE variance in rates depending on quality of nanny. I have found someone below average at $11/hr and kept her a year. When I could afford more, I found an excellent nanny at $20/hr in 2019.

OP here. It’s for 45 hours. We went ahead with it because all of the other options we were finding had a similar cost or were much, much less desirable.

Thanks to all for the input!

Precisely what I said. For 40 hours, it’s a bit high (but not outrageous during covid). For 45, it’s reasonable, and if it had been 50 hours, it would be a steal.

Thanks for the feedback!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many hours? Absurd for 40, high end but not crazy at all if 50. More than 50, totally normal.

And of course a nanny share is more expensive than daycare. That was true before COVID, so it’s obviously true now.

FWIW, for 50 hours/week of care on Capitol Hill all in, I pay my nanny $70K. That’s 3 kids (no infants) but one family.

+1. OP's post is useless without telling us how many hours is being used.
If 50 hours, I could see it happen, with caveat that this nanny is a great nanny. Average nannies don't command that rate.

There is a WIDE variance in rates depending on quality of nanny. I have found someone below average at $11/hr and kept her a year. When I could afford more, I found an excellent nanny at $20/hr in 2019.

OP here. It’s for 45 hours. We went ahead with it because all of the other options we were finding had a similar cost or were much, much less desirable.

Thanks to all for the input!

Precisely what I said. For 40 hours, it’s a bit high (but not outrageous during covid). For 45, it’s reasonable, and if it had been 50 hours, it would be a steal.

Thanks for the feedback!

FWIW, I'm in the nanny share hunt right now in DC and this is right in the price range, if not a little low, of what we're seeing for 45 hours. Nanny shares are not cheap.