Disastrous results for iready

[Anonymous]

PP here, my son is in 2nd grade. 2nd graders shouldn’t be expected to sit at home and take online exams like they are college students. It’s a bit of a reach. My kid is bright, but didn’t take this test seriously, oh well. Hopefully, his teachers will realize this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP here, my son is in 2nd grade. 2nd graders shouldn’t be expected to sit at home and take online exams like they are college students. It’s a bit of a reach. My kid is bright, but didn’t take this test seriously, oh well. Hopefully, his teachers will realize this.

Kids have been taking this test for years. Some of them take it seriously, some don't. Teachers know this. The parents who are agonizing over this are the ones who need to calm down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyway, the point is the test is bad because it discourages you, and I am not even sure how accurate it is because some answers can be guessed and guessed right.
I don’t know what happened to the good old assessment of what one had been already exposed to!

Wrong! If they only assessed what each kid has been exposed to, you'd end up with a lot of kids who have perfect scores. The test would identify the struggling kids, but it would do nothing to identify the kids who are advanced.

Also, kids have assessments of things they haven't been exposed to all of the time. Many of the Beginning of Year tests, which every FCPS kid takes every year, will cover the stuff that the kid will be exposed to throughout the year. This way, they can identify kids who need remediation as well as kids who need extensions, and they can track progress by comparing the beginning of year tests to the end of year tests. MAP testing, which is done almost everywhere except FCPS, is also adaptive and will ask kids things that they haven't been exposed to if the kid answers questions correctly.

Stop treating your child like some delicate snowflake who can't understand that the test might ask things he hasn't yet seen, and in that case, he should just guess and move on. The overwhelming majority of kids across the country can cope with adaptive tests without any issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here, my son is in 2nd grade. 2nd graders shouldn’t be expected to sit at home and take online exams like they are college students. It’s a bit of a reach. My kid is bright, but didn’t take this test seriously, oh well. Hopefully, his teachers will realize this.

Kids have been taking this test for years. Some of them take it seriously, some don't. Teachers know this. The parents who are agonizing over this are the ones who need to calm down.

Bingo. It is why there are retests with Teachers paying closer attention and making sure that the issue isn't a kid rushing.

[Anonymous]

The kid's teacher told the class that she is monitoring their tests and can tell whether they are rushing, because their tests will be flagged. I don't think DD or two of her friends, rushed anything, although I had to remind them all that the test will give them questions on topics they don't know, that questions that look like they don't know may not be if they give it a minute and think about it, and to just do their best.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyway, the point is the test is bad because it discourages you, and I am not even sure how accurate it is because some answers can be guessed and guessed right.
I don’t know what happened to the good old assessment of what one had been already exposed to!

Wrong! If they only assessed what each kid has been exposed to, you'd end up with a lot of kids who have perfect scores. The test would identify the struggling kids, but it would do nothing to identify the kids who are advanced.

Also, kids have assessments of things they haven't been exposed to all of the time. Many of the Beginning of Year tests, which every FCPS kid takes every year, will cover the stuff that the kid will be exposed to throughout the year. This way, they can identify kids who need remediation as well as kids who need extensions, and they can track progress by comparing the beginning of year tests to the end of year tests. MAP testing, which is done almost everywhere except FCPS, is also adaptive and will ask kids things that they haven't been exposed to if the kid answers questions correctly.

Stop treating your child like some delicate snowflake who can't understand that the test might ask things he hasn't yet seen, and in that case, he should just guess and move on. The overwhelming majority of kids across the country can cope with adaptive tests without any issues.

I don’t think iReady is used to identify advanced kids.

[Anonymous]

It isn’t used by FCPS to identify advanced students, but it is used for that purpose in most school districts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our child took iready. Child is 5th grade AAP and scored 40 percentile. Teacher mentioned in the email that in her side documentation shows it was rushed. Now they will do further assement. We are essential workers so don't know how much time was spent on the test. Anyone else in the same boat?

OP, where can we get the percentile scores? My DS's iReady scores are just about expected ranges and his scaled scores. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:teachers have no way of knowing who gave up on spring, who kept up and who went ahead. Assessments are still needed for both class placements where advanced math is a pull out and for in class groupings. All we're doing is witnessing what would be happening if they were physically in school

OP's daughter is in AAP, so she is already in advanced math

that may be true of your school, but not every school or center treats level IV like an automatic entry into advanced math

If OP's daughter was selected for Level IV AAP, then yes, she is in advanced math. It is automatic entry into advanced math in every school in FCPS.

However, if OP's daughter was principal placed into Level IV then it might be possible - but still pretty unlikely. Level IV means all subjects are advanced.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:teachers have no way of knowing who gave up on spring, who kept up and who went ahead. Assessments are still needed for both class placements where advanced math is a pull out and for in class groupings. All we're doing is witnessing what would be happening if they were physically in school

OP's daughter is in AAP, so she is already in advanced math

that may be true of your school, but not every school or center treats level IV like an automatic entry into advanced math

If OP's daughter was selected for Level IV AAP, then yes, she is in advanced math. It is automatic entry into advanced math in every school in FCPS.

However, if OP's daughter was principal placed into Level IV then it might be possible - but still pretty unlikely. Level IV means all subjects are advanced.

Op here our child was placed by school. We just filled the questions without any extra work from us. Only reason I posted was to see if other kids were in same situation. Ours was tested with teacher so it was DRA assessment and she aced level38 (middle of 4th)and 40 which is end of 4th grade. After that teacher stopped as this is to give the idea where child stands.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:teachers have no way of knowing who gave up on spring, who kept up and who went ahead. Assessments are still needed for both class placements where advanced math is a pull out and for in class groupings. All we're doing is witnessing what would be happening if they were physically in school

OP's daughter is in AAP, so she is already in advanced math

that may be true of your school, but not every school or center treats level IV like an automatic entry into advanced math

If OP's daughter was selected for Level IV AAP, then yes, she is in advanced math. It is automatic entry into advanced math in every school in FCPS.

However, if OP's daughter was principal placed into Level IV then it might be possible - but still pretty unlikely. Level IV means all subjects are advanced.

Op here our child was placed by school. We just filled the questions without any extra work from us. Only reason I posted was to see if other kids were in same situation. Ours was tested with teacher so it was DRA assessment and she aced level38 (middle of 4th)and 40 which is end of 4th grade. After that teacher stopped as this is to give the idea where child stands.

If your child was Principal placed you might want to pursue a formal placement into AAP. Kids who are Principal placed can be displaced if other kids are accepted into AAP formally and need a seat in the class. Also, AAP classes in Middle School are only available to kids who have been accepted into AAP.

DRA is done by a teacher, iReady is the computer program. My DS's 3rd grade class is taking a math assessment for Advanced Math today. He was accepted into AAP so we know he will be in Advanced Math but the non AAP kids take this specific test to set the class. We also received an email regarding Advanced Math and what the kids are expected to do and how it is more challenging.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our child took iready. Child is 5th grade AAP and scored 40 percentile. Teacher mentioned in the email that in her side documentation shows it was rushed. Now they will do further assement. We are essential workers so don't know how much time was spent on the test. Anyone else in the same boat?

Do they provide us the scores for iready?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our child took iready. Child is 5th grade AAP and scored 40 percentile. Teacher mentioned in the email that in her side documentation shows it was rushed. Now they will do further assement. We are essential workers so don't know how much time was spent on the test. Anyone else in the same boat?

Do they provide us the scores for iready?

Our FCPS elementary said no scores until their exam cycle finishes up Oct 30. I'm really interested!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our child took iready. Child is 5th grade AAP and scored 40 percentile. Teacher mentioned in the email that in her side documentation shows it was rushed. Now they will do further assement. We are essential workers so don't know how much time was spent on the test. Anyone else in the same boat?

Do they provide us the scores for iready?

Our FCPS elementary said no scores until their exam cycle finishes up Oct 30. I'm really interested!

Op here we didn't get any results for math iready. We wanted to know math results and got the reply that results will be shared ones FCPS testing window closes.

[Anonymous]

Disappointing? Ok sure. Disastrous? It’s a fifth grade assessment test. Relax.