Night weaning without sleep training, is it possible?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No one has every answered this: for those of you who believe 20 minutes of crying for a few nights is cruel and leads to tour kid feeling like they've been abandoned...what do you do when they scream in the car seat and you have to go somewhere? Or do you just never go anywhere?

You comfort them by saying mommy is here. You can sing or hum. Provide toys and distraction. When we drove as a family, normally one of us would sit in the back. I made sure that thesubn wasn't in his eyes. And if it was I would.pull over and change the cover. If it gets bad enough then yes I would pull over.

I'm not really sure why you are comparing two events. We never put our kid screaming into the car that I can remember. Did he scream during car rides - yes. He has reflux and it was uncomfortable if it was too close to a feed or his pants were too tight. We learned what the triggers were and lessened the frequency.

Leaving to cry without any comfort at night in the dark for hours on end and providing limited comfort when trapped driving for x minutes are two very different things. If you cant see that then you are just twisting yourself to confirm your own decisions.

But this isn't always the case. Firstly, many MANY people sleep train without "hours" of crying, which is extreme. For most people, including many on this thread, it is 20 or so minutes for a few nights.
My kids both hated the car as a baby. Hated it to the point where they would scream and scream eighth tears streaming down their faces looking at me like how could you do this to me. They both cried much, much more in a car seat than while sleep training. But the point of a car seat is to keep them safe, much like the point of sleep training is to help them sleep. Children who don't get consolidated sleep are at risk for a host of issues, this is a scientifically proven fact. Children need consolidated sleep to grow and function. My point is that car seats and sleep training are both important enough to outweigh the risks of crying.

Please define consolidated sleep and then we can talk

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one has every answered this: for those of you who believe 20 minutes of crying for a few nights is cruel and leads to tour kid feeling like they've been abandoned...what do you do when they scream in the car seat and you have to go somewhere? Or do you just never go anywhere?

You comfort them by saying mommy is here. You can sing or hum. Provide toys and distraction. When we drove as a family, normally one of us would sit in the back. I made sure that thesubn wasn't in his eyes. And if it was I would.pull over and change the cover. If it gets bad enough then yes I would pull over.

I'm not really sure why you are comparing two events. We never put our kid screaming into the car that I can remember. Did he scream during car rides - yes. He has reflux and it was uncomfortable if it was too close to a feed or his pants were too tight. We learned what the triggers were and lessened the frequency.

Leaving to cry without any comfort at night in the dark for hours on end and providing limited comfort when trapped driving for x minutes are two very different things. If you cant see that then you are just twisting yourself to confirm your own decisions.

But this isn't always the case. Firstly, many MANY people sleep train without "hours" of crying, which is extreme. For most people, including many on this thread, it is 20 or so minutes for a few nights.
My kids both hated the car as a baby. Hated it to the point where they would scream and scream eighth tears streaming down their faces looking at me like how could you do this to me. They both cried much, much more in a car seat than while sleep training. But the point of a car seat is to keep them safe, much like the point of sleep training is to help them sleep. Children who don't get consolidated sleep are at risk for a host of issues, this is a scientifically proven fact. Children need consolidated sleep to grow and function. My point is that car seats and sleep training are both important enough to outweigh the risks of crying.

Please define consolidated sleep and then we can talk

Sweetie your 20 month old doesn't need to wake up twice a night to eat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one has every answered this: for those of you who believe 20 minutes of crying for a few nights is cruel and leads to tour kid feeling like they've been abandoned...what do you do when they scream in the car seat and you have to go somewhere? Or do you just never go anywhere?

You comfort them by saying mommy is here. You can sing or hum. Provide toys and distraction. When we drove as a family, normally one of us would sit in the back. I made sure that thesubn wasn't in his eyes. And if it was I would.pull over and change the cover. If it gets bad enough then yes I would pull over.

I'm not really sure why you are comparing two events. We never put our kid screaming into the car that I can remember. Did he scream during car rides - yes. He has reflux and it was uncomfortable if it was too close to a feed or his pants were too tight. We learned what the triggers were and lessened the frequency.

Leaving to cry without any comfort at night in the dark for hours on end and providing limited comfort when trapped driving for x minutes are two very different things. If you cant see that then you are just twisting yourself to confirm your own decisions.

But this isn't always the case. Firstly, many MANY people sleep train without "hours" of crying, which is extreme. For most people, including many on this thread, it is 20 or so minutes for a few nights.
My kids both hated the car as a baby. Hated it to the point where they would scream and scream eighth tears streaming down their faces looking at me like how could you do this to me. They both cried much, much more in a car seat than while sleep training. But the point of a car seat is to keep them safe, much like the point of sleep training is to help them sleep. Children who don't get consolidated sleep are at risk for a host of issues, this is a scientifically proven fact. Children need consolidated sleep to grow and function. My point is that car seats and sleep training are both important enough to outweigh the risks of crying.

Please define consolidated sleep and then we can talk

Sweetie your 20 month old doesn't need to wake up twice a night to eat.

I was asking for the definition in your studies of consolidated sleep. If you cant define these, then terms like consolidated sleep are useless for your argument,especially one based in "science". You instead responded with sweetie.

[Anonymous]

Although I did this in combination with sleep training (Happy Sleeper Method with a "wave" of check-ins every five minutes), I think the night weaning method could work without sleep training in general:
1. Answer baby's calls for nursing during the night and note how long baby nurses and what times. I did this "observation" two nights.
2. Shorten baby's nursing time by 30 seconds every other night. So if baby usually nursed for five minutes in the observation period, pop baby off after 4.5 minutes for each nursing session. (Yes, actually time this using your phone. Yes, you will feel like you are making no progress and will be tired for two more weeks.)
3. Be night weaned after two weeks, if not quicker! My son stopped waking off when we got to around 2 minutes of nursing time.

[Anonymous]

I night weaned abruptly at 12 months because I thought a medication I was taking was making my son puke . I went in with an ice cold bottle of milk from the fridge and offered it to him and he slapped it out of my hand and dove back into his crib. He slept through the night from then on.