Night weaning without sleep training, is it possible?

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t even try to night wean. Both kids stopped waking up to nurse when they didn’t need it anymore. I think lots of feedings and solids during the day helped as well as a real demarcation between daytime and nighttime. Lots of activity in the sunshine and engagement during the day and a set bedtime routine and long probed feed. Totally dark and quiet room. When they were still waking up hungry, I just went into the dark room and fed them then right back to the crib.

How does this help OP?

Acceptance. The issue is solved by accepting a quick mid-night feeding and working to solve the issue during the day with more food and sunlight.

Or you could night wean and not have your sleep disrupted. I always had trouble getting back to seep after a night nurse and didn't sleep well until I night weaned. Can we please stop telling women they have to accept bad sleep when there are perfectly acceptable methods of sleep training and night weaning?

So have your partner get up and give a bottle. I am vehemently opposed to any CIO in an infant but have given OP solutions on basic sleep training by changing what you do during the day.

You don't want to do CIO, fine. But scientific studies have shown it helps babies sleep better, has no adverse affects and parents who sleep train suffer significantly lower rates of depression.

Respectfully, those are not my findings. Crying releases a stress hormone called cortisol that is damaging to babies. There are definite adverse effects in the long run. Before object permanence, it’s cruel to leave a crying baby feeling abandoned.

And that said, why not try everything possible before letting an infant cry?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I did “gentle” CIO for our baby to stop the overnight feed and get her to STTN. It worked in literally two nights. So OP if you’re up for it, it’s really killing two birds with one stone.

Personally, I don’t care if you choose to sleep train or not, or use CIO or not. The people who are “vehemently” against CIO don’t bother me. I’m too busy sleeping through the night and waking up refreshed to be bothered, but I will come back to the board to chuckle at your exasperated posts about how your child is 1 and then 2 and then 3 and still not sleeping. Lemme know how strong that conviction is then, when several years of compounded exhaustion for principle continues to backfire on you on a daily basis!

I’m the PP you’re trying to mock. My kids all slept they the night by about ten or eleven months and are great 12 plus hours a night sleepers now.

Waking up once to nurse didn’t leave me “Un-refreshed”. I’m not that delicate.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t even try to night wean. Both kids stopped waking up to nurse when they didn’t need it anymore. I think lots of feedings and solids during the day helped as well as a real demarcation between daytime and nighttime. Lots of activity in the sunshine and engagement during the day and a set bedtime routine and long probed feed. Totally dark and quiet room. When they were still waking up hungry, I just went into the dark room and fed them then right back to the crib.

How does this help OP?

Acceptance. The issue is solved by accepting a quick mid-night feeding and working to solve the issue during the day with more food and sunlight.

Or you could night wean and not have your sleep disrupted. I always had trouble getting back to seep after a night nurse and didn't sleep well until I night weaned. Can we please stop telling women they have to accept bad sleep when there are perfectly acceptable methods of sleep training and night weaning?

So have your partner get up and give a bottle. I am vehemently opposed to any CIO in an infant but have given OP solutions on basic sleep training by changing what you do during the day.

You don't want to do CIO, fine. But scientific studies have shown it helps babies sleep better, has no adverse affects and parents who sleep train suffer significantly lower rates of depression.

Respectfully, those are not my findings. Crying releases a stress hormone called cortisol that is damaging to babies. There are definite adverse effects in the long run. Before object permanence, it’s cruel to leave a crying baby feeling abandoned.

And that said, why not try everything possible before letting an infant cry?

You know, I'm going to trust the findings of actual scientists and the recommendations of my pediatrician over an internet rando.

And again, my kid cried LESS overall since I sleep trained. So if you want to avoid crying and stress, sleep training reduces that.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t even try to night wean. Both kids stopped waking up to nurse when they didn’t need it anymore. I think lots of feedings and solids during the day helped as well as a real demarcation between daytime and nighttime. Lots of activity in the sunshine and engagement during the day and a set bedtime routine and long probed feed. Totally dark and quiet room. When they were still waking up hungry, I just went into the dark room and fed them then right back to the crib.

How does this help OP?

Acceptance. The issue is solved by accepting a quick mid-night feeding and working to solve the issue during the day with more food and sunlight.

Or you could night wean and not have your sleep disrupted. I always had trouble getting back to seep after a night nurse and didn't sleep well until I night weaned. Can we please stop telling women they have to accept bad sleep when there are perfectly acceptable methods of sleep training and night weaning?

So have your partner get up and give a bottle. I am vehemently opposed to any CIO in an infant but have given OP solutions on basic sleep training by changing what you do during the day.

You don't want to do CIO, fine. But scientific studies have shown it helps babies sleep better, has no adverse affects and parents who sleep train suffer significantly lower rates of depression.

Respectfully, those are not my findings. Crying releases a stress hormone called cortisol that is damaging to babies. There are definite adverse effects in the long run. Before object permanence, it’s cruel to leave a crying baby feeling abandoned.

And that said, why not try everything possible before letting an infant cry?

You know, I'm going to trust the findings of actual scientists and the recommendations of my pediatrician over an internet rando.

And again, my kid cried LESS overall since I sleep trained. So if you want to avoid crying and stress, sleep training reduces that.

My pediatrician is against CIO before nine months so it’s not really advice from an “internet rando”.

And again, why not try everything else before you get to that point?

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t even try to night wean. Both kids stopped waking up to nurse when they didn’t need it anymore. I think lots of feedings and solids during the day helped as well as a real demarcation between daytime and nighttime. Lots of activity in the sunshine and engagement during the day and a set bedtime routine and long probed feed. Totally dark and quiet room. When they were still waking up hungry, I just went into the dark room and fed them then right back to the crib.

How does this help OP?

Acceptance. The issue is solved by accepting a quick mid-night feeding and working to solve the issue during the day with more food and sunlight.

Or you could night wean and not have your sleep disrupted. I always had trouble getting back to seep after a night nurse and didn't sleep well until I night weaned. Can we please stop telling women they have to accept bad sleep when there are perfectly acceptable methods of sleep training and night weaning?

So have your partner get up and give a bottle. I am vehemently opposed to any CIO in an infant but have given OP solutions on basic sleep training by changing what you do during the day.

You don't want to do CIO, fine. But scientific studies have shown it helps babies sleep better, has no adverse affects and parents who sleep train suffer significantly lower rates of depression.

Respectfully, those are not my findings. Crying releases a stress hormone called cortisol that is damaging to babies. There are definite adverse effects in the long run. Before object permanence, it’s cruel to leave a crying baby feeling abandoned.

And that said, why not try everything possible before letting an infant cry?

You know, I'm going to trust the findings of actual scientists and the recommendations of my pediatrician over an internet rando.

And again, my kid cried LESS overall since I sleep trained. So if you want to avoid crying and stress, sleep training reduces that.

Not my experience at all. My kids weren’t cryers - still aren’t - so I can’t see how allowing them to cry as infants would have reduced crying.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t even try to night wean. Both kids stopped waking up to nurse when they didn’t need it anymore. I think lots of feedings and solids during the day helped as well as a real demarcation between daytime and nighttime. Lots of activity in the sunshine and engagement during the day and a set bedtime routine and long probed feed. Totally dark and quiet room. When they were still waking up hungry, I just went into the dark room and fed them then right back to the crib.

How does this help OP?

Acceptance. The issue is solved by accepting a quick mid-night feeding and working to solve the issue during the day with more food and sunlight.

Or you could night wean and not have your sleep disrupted. I always had trouble getting back to seep after a night nurse and didn't sleep well until I night weaned. Can we please stop telling women they have to accept bad sleep when there are perfectly acceptable methods of sleep training and night weaning?

So have your partner get up and give a bottle. I am vehemently opposed to any CIO in an infant but have given OP solutions on basic sleep training by changing what you do during the day.

You don't want to do CIO, fine. But scientific studies have shown it helps babies sleep better, has no adverse affects and parents who sleep train suffer significantly lower rates of depression.

Respectfully, those are not my findings. Crying releases a stress hormone called cortisol that is damaging to babies. There are definite adverse effects in the long run. Before object permanence, it’s cruel to leave a crying baby feeling abandoned.

And that said, why not try everything possible before letting an infant cry?

You know, I'm going to trust the findings of actual scientists and the recommendations of my pediatrician over an internet rando.

And again, my kid cried LESS overall since I sleep trained. So if you want to avoid crying and stress, sleep training reduces that.

Not my experience at all. My kids weren’t cryers - still aren’t - so I can’t see how allowing them to cry as infants would have reduced crying.

Cool, my kid would cry, I would nurse him, and like 50% of the time he'd resume crying the second I put him back down. It could take 20 minutes at a time to get him back to sleep multiple times a night. So lots of crying, very little sleep. Then I sleep trained. 20 minutes of crying two nights and instead I had a little baby who would just roll over and go back to sleep. I realized my impulse to pick him up was actually harming him.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t even try to night wean. Both kids stopped waking up to nurse when they didn’t need it anymore. I think lots of feedings and solids during the day helped as well as a real demarcation between daytime and nighttime. Lots of activity in the sunshine and engagement during the day and a set bedtime routine and long probed feed. Totally dark and quiet room. When they were still waking up hungry, I just went into the dark room and fed them then right back to the crib.

How does this help OP?

Acceptance. The issue is solved by accepting a quick mid-night feeding and working to solve the issue during the day with more food and sunlight.

Or you could night wean and not have your sleep disrupted. I always had trouble getting back to seep after a night nurse and didn't sleep well until I night weaned. Can we please stop telling women they have to accept bad sleep when there are perfectly acceptable methods of sleep training and night weaning?

So have your partner get up and give a bottle. I am vehemently opposed to any CIO in an infant but have given OP solutions on basic sleep training by changing what you do during the day.

You don't want to do CIO, fine. But scientific studies have shown it helps babies sleep better, has no adverse affects and parents who sleep train suffer significantly lower rates of depression.

Respectfully, those are not my findings. Crying releases a stress hormone called cortisol that is damaging to babies. There are definite adverse effects in the long run. Before object permanence, it’s cruel to leave a crying baby feeling abandoned.

And that said, why not try everything possible before letting an infant cry?

You know, I'm going to trust the findings of actual scientists and the recommendations of my pediatrician over an internet rando.

And again, my kid cried LESS overall since I sleep trained. So if you want to avoid crying and stress, sleep training reduces that.

Not my experience at all. My kids weren’t cryers - still aren’t - so I can’t see how allowing them to cry as infants would have reduced crying.

Cool, my kid would cry, I would nurse him, and like 50% of the time he'd resume crying the second I put him back down. It could take 20 minutes at a time to get him back to sleep multiple times a night. So lots of crying, very little sleep. Then I sleep trained. 20 minutes of crying two nights and instead I had a little baby who would just roll over and go back to sleep. I realized my impulse to pick him up was actually harming him.

NP here. I’m more in the no-cio posters camp. I’m not opposed to cio sleep training after object permanence (nine months or so) and ruling out all other issues. Like if your baby was crying when you put him down because he was having gas pain or reflux. I know how hard it is but I can’t see how it’s okay to let a newborn or young infant cry alone.

[Anonymous]

My first baby started sleeping 12 hrs without CIO at 4 months. I think she was just a unicorn (my second baby is still waking up at 16 months....), BUT she did have a pacifier, and anytime she woke up, my husband would go in and replace her pacifier and rock her.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t even try to night wean. Both kids stopped waking up to nurse when they didn’t need it anymore. I think lots of feedings and solids during the day helped as well as a real demarcation between daytime and nighttime. Lots of activity in the sunshine and engagement during the day and a set bedtime routine and long probed feed. Totally dark and quiet room. When they were still waking up hungry, I just went into the dark room and fed them then right back to the crib.

How does this help OP?

Acceptance. The issue is solved by accepting a quick mid-night feeding and working to solve the issue during the day with more food and sunlight.

Or you could night wean and not have your sleep disrupted. I always had trouble getting back to seep after a night nurse and didn't sleep well until I night weaned. Can we please stop telling women they have to accept bad sleep when there are perfectly acceptable methods of sleep training and night weaning?

So have your partner get up and give a bottle. I am vehemently opposed to any CIO in an infant but have given OP solutions on basic sleep training by changing what you do during the day.

You don't want to do CIO, fine. But scientific studies have shown it helps babies sleep better, has no adverse affects and parents who sleep train suffer significantly lower rates of depression.

Respectfully, those are not my findings. Crying releases a stress hormone called cortisol that is damaging to babies. There are definite adverse effects in the long run. Before object permanence, it’s cruel to leave a crying baby feeling abandoned.

And that said, why not try everything possible before letting an infant cry?

You know, I'm going to trust the findings of actual scientists and the recommendations of my pediatrician over an internet rando.

And again, my kid cried LESS overall since I sleep trained. So if you want to avoid crying and stress, sleep training reduces that.

Not my experience at all. My kids weren’t cryers - still aren’t - so I can’t see how allowing them to cry as infants would have reduced crying.

Cool, my kid would cry, I would nurse him, and like 50% of the time he'd resume crying the second I put him back down. It could take 20 minutes at a time to get him back to sleep multiple times a night. So lots of crying, very little sleep. Then I sleep trained. 20 minutes of crying two nights and instead I had a little baby who would just roll over and go back to sleep. I realized my impulse to pick him up was actually harming him.

NP here. I’m more in the no-cio posters camp. I’m not opposed to cio sleep training after object permanence (nine months or so) and ruling out all other issues. Like if your baby was crying when you put him down because he was having gas pain or reflux. I know how hard it is but I can’t see how it’s okay to let a newborn or young infant cry alone.

NP- I've never understood this reasoning. I think it's far more cruel to let a baby CIO after object permanence when they know you exist but aren't with them. At that point they wonder why mommy isn't coming back when they cry. A four month old doesn't wonder where you are.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t even try to night wean. Both kids stopped waking up to nurse when they didn’t need it anymore. I think lots of feedings and solids during the day helped as well as a real demarcation between daytime and nighttime. Lots of activity in the sunshine and engagement during the day and a set bedtime routine and long probed feed. Totally dark and quiet room. When they were still waking up hungry, I just went into the dark room and fed them then right back to the crib.

How does this help OP?

Acceptance. The issue is solved by accepting a quick mid-night feeding and working to solve the issue during the day with more food and sunlight.

Or you could night wean and not have your sleep disrupted. I always had trouble getting back to seep after a night nurse and didn't sleep well until I night weaned. Can we please stop telling women they have to accept bad sleep when there are perfectly acceptable methods of sleep training and night weaning?

So have your partner get up and give a bottle. I am vehemently opposed to any CIO in an infant but have given OP solutions on basic sleep training by changing what you do during the day.

You don't want to do CIO, fine. But scientific studies have shown it helps babies sleep better, has no adverse affects and parents who sleep train suffer significantly lower rates of depression.

Respectfully, those are not my findings. Crying releases a stress hormone called cortisol that is damaging to babies. There are definite adverse effects in the long run. Before object permanence, it’s cruel to leave a crying baby feeling abandoned.

And that said, why not try everything possible before letting an infant cry?

You know, I'm going to trust the findings of actual scientists and the recommendations of my pediatrician over an internet rando.

And again, my kid cried LESS overall since I sleep trained. So if you want to avoid crying and stress, sleep training reduces that.

Not my experience at all. My kids weren’t cryers - still aren’t - so I can’t see how allowing them to cry as infants would have reduced crying.

Cool, my kid would cry, I would nurse him, and like 50% of the time he'd resume crying the second I put him back down. It could take 20 minutes at a time to get him back to sleep multiple times a night. So lots of crying, very little sleep. Then I sleep trained. 20 minutes of crying two nights and instead I had a little baby who would just roll over and go back to sleep. I realized my impulse to pick him up was actually harming him.

NP here. I’m more in the no-cio posters camp. I’m not opposed to cio sleep training after object permanence (nine months or so) and ruling out all other issues. Like if your baby was crying when you put him down because he was having gas pain or reflux. I know how hard it is but I can’t see how it’s okay to let a newborn or young infant cry alone.

NP- I've never understood this reasoning. I think it's far more cruel to let a baby CIO after object permanence when they know you exist but aren't with them. At that point they wonder why mommy isn't coming back when they cry. A four month old doesn't wonder where you are.

Seriously?! You think it’s better for your baby to feel totally abandoned and alone in a dark world than be pissed you aren’t coming?!!

DP here and you’re truly insane!!

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t even try to night wean. Both kids stopped waking up to nurse when they didn’t need it anymore. I think lots of feedings and solids during the day helped as well as a real demarcation between daytime and nighttime. Lots of activity in the sunshine and engagement during the day and a set bedtime routine and long probed feed. Totally dark and quiet room. When they were still waking up hungry, I just went into the dark room and fed them then right back to the crib.

How does this help OP?

Acceptance. The issue is solved by accepting a quick mid-night feeding and working to solve the issue during the day with more food and sunlight.

Or you could night wean and not have your sleep disrupted. I always had trouble getting back to seep after a night nurse and didn't sleep well until I night weaned. Can we please stop telling women they have to accept bad sleep when there are perfectly acceptable methods of sleep training and night weaning?

So have your partner get up and give a bottle. I am vehemently opposed to any CIO in an infant but have given OP solutions on basic sleep training by changing what you do during the day.

You don't want to do CIO, fine. But scientific studies have shown it helps babies sleep better, has no adverse affects and parents who sleep train suffer significantly lower rates of depression.

Respectfully, those are not my findings. Crying releases a stress hormone called cortisol that is damaging to babies. There are definite adverse effects in the long run. Before object permanence, it’s cruel to leave a crying baby feeling abandoned.

And that said, why not try everything possible before letting an infant cry?

You know, I'm going to trust the findings of actual scientists and the recommendations of my pediatrician over an internet rando.

And again, my kid cried LESS overall since I sleep trained. So if you want to avoid crying and stress, sleep training reduces that.

Not my experience at all. My kids weren’t cryers - still aren’t - so I can’t see how allowing them to cry as infants would have reduced crying.

Cool, my kid would cry, I would nurse him, and like 50% of the time he'd resume crying the second I put him back down. It could take 20 minutes at a time to get him back to sleep multiple times a night. So lots of crying, very little sleep. Then I sleep trained. 20 minutes of crying two nights and instead I had a little baby who would just roll over and go back to sleep. I realized my impulse to pick him up was actually harming him.

NP here. I’m more in the no-cio posters camp. I’m not opposed to cio sleep training after object permanence (nine months or so) and ruling out all other issues. Like if your baby was crying when you put him down because he was having gas pain or reflux. I know how hard it is but I can’t see how it’s okay to let a newborn or young infant cry alone.

NP- I've never understood this reasoning. I think it's far more cruel to let a baby CIO after object permanence when they know you exist but aren't with them. At that point they wonder why mommy isn't coming back when they cry. A four month old doesn't wonder where you are.

Seriously?! You think it’s better for your baby to feel totally abandoned and alone in a dark world than be pissed you aren’t coming?!!

DP here and you’re truly insane!!

A four month old has no concept of abandoned.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t even try to night wean. Both kids stopped waking up to nurse when they didn’t need it anymore. I think lots of feedings and solids during the day helped as well as a real demarcation between daytime and nighttime. Lots of activity in the sunshine and engagement during the day and a set bedtime routine and long probed feed. Totally dark and quiet room. When they were still waking up hungry, I just went into the dark room and fed them then right back to the crib.

How does this help OP?

Acceptance. The issue is solved by accepting a quick mid-night feeding and working to solve the issue during the day with more food and sunlight.

Or you could night wean and not have your sleep disrupted. I always had trouble getting back to seep after a night nurse and didn't sleep well until I night weaned. Can we please stop telling women they have to accept bad sleep when there are perfectly acceptable methods of sleep training and night weaning?

So have your partner get up and give a bottle. I am vehemently opposed to any CIO in an infant but have given OP solutions on basic sleep training by changing what you do during the day.

You don't want to do CIO, fine. But scientific studies have shown it helps babies sleep better, has no adverse affects and parents who sleep train suffer significantly lower rates of depression.

Respectfully, those are not my findings. Crying releases a stress hormone called cortisol that is damaging to babies. There are definite adverse effects in the long run. Before object permanence, it’s cruel to leave a crying baby feeling abandoned.

And that said, why not try everything possible before letting an infant cry?

You know, I'm going to trust the findings of actual scientists and the recommendations of my pediatrician over an internet rando.

And again, my kid cried LESS overall since I sleep trained. So if you want to avoid crying and stress, sleep training reduces that.

Not my experience at all. My kids weren’t cryers - still aren’t - so I can’t see how allowing them to cry as infants would have reduced crying.

Cool, my kid would cry, I would nurse him, and like 50% of the time he'd resume crying the second I put him back down. It could take 20 minutes at a time to get him back to sleep multiple times a night. So lots of crying, very little sleep. Then I sleep trained. 20 minutes of crying two nights and instead I had a little baby who would just roll over and go back to sleep. I realized my impulse to pick him up was actually harming him.

NP here. I’m more in the no-cio posters camp. I’m not opposed to cio sleep training after object permanence (nine months or so) and ruling out all other issues. Like if your baby was crying when you put him down because he was having gas pain or reflux. I know how hard it is but I can’t see how it’s okay to let a newborn or young infant cry alone.

NP- I've never understood this reasoning. I think it's far more cruel to let a baby CIO after object permanence when they know you exist but aren't with them. At that point they wonder why mommy isn't coming back when they cry. A four month old doesn't wonder where you are.

Seriously?! You think it’s better for your baby to feel totally abandoned and alone in a dark world than be pissed you aren’t coming?!!

DP here and you’re truly insane!!

And you don't think a nine month old feels abandoned?

[Anonymous]

folks, you’re not going to convince each other so just stop. I sleep trained my son at 5.5 months, it was a breeze and hugely beneficial for us. I don’t care if you choose to sleep train via CIO or not, do what is best for your family. Now, can we get back to answering the actual question posed.

[Anonymous]

I night-weaned my first at four months, without sleep training, because feedings seemed to wake him up more. Instead of feeding, I just held him. (I also had to stop rocking him at this time because that became too stimulating around the same time.) It took a long time the first few days, though much, much shorter than if I had nursed/fed him. After a few days, when he woke at night, I could just hold him for a few minutes and he'd fall back asleep.

He was ready to drop it. I think that's why it worked easily without sleep training. So yes, it is possible, but whether it's possible for yours at this time will probably just depend on your baby.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t even try to night wean. Both kids stopped waking up to nurse when they didn’t need it anymore. I think lots of feedings and solids during the day helped as well as a real demarcation between daytime and nighttime. Lots of activity in the sunshine and engagement during the day and a set bedtime routine and long probed feed. Totally dark and quiet room. When they were still waking up hungry, I just went into the dark room and fed them then right back to the crib.

How does this help OP?

Acceptance. The issue is solved by accepting a quick mid-night feeding and working to solve the issue during the day with more food and sunlight.

Or you could night wean and not have your sleep disrupted. I always had trouble getting back to seep after a night nurse and didn't sleep well until I night weaned. Can we please stop telling women they have to accept bad sleep when there are perfectly acceptable methods of sleep training and night weaning?

So have your partner get up and give a bottle. I am vehemently opposed to any CIO in an infant but have given OP solutions on basic sleep training by changing what you do during the day.

You don't want to do CIO, fine. But scientific studies have shown it helps babies sleep better, has no adverse affects and parents who sleep train suffer significantly lower rates of depression.

Respectfully, those are not my findings. Crying releases a stress hormone called cortisol that is damaging to babies. There are definite adverse effects in the long run. Before object permanence, it’s cruel to leave a crying baby feeling abandoned.

And that said, why not try everything possible before letting an infant cry?

You know, I'm going to trust the findings of actual scientists and the recommendations of my pediatrician over an internet rando.

And again, my kid cried LESS overall since I sleep trained. So if you want to avoid crying and stress, sleep training reduces that.

Not my experience at all. My kids weren’t cryers - still aren’t - so I can’t see how allowing them to cry as infants would have reduced crying.

Cool, my kid would cry, I would nurse him, and like 50% of the time he'd resume crying the second I put him back down. It could take 20 minutes at a time to get him back to sleep multiple times a night. So lots of crying, very little sleep. Then I sleep trained. 20 minutes of crying two nights and instead I had a little baby who would just roll over and go back to sleep. I realized my impulse to pick him up was actually harming him.

NP here. I’m more in the no-cio posters camp. I’m not opposed to cio sleep training after object permanence (nine months or so) and ruling out all other issues. Like if your baby was crying when you put him down because he was having gas pain or reflux. I know how hard it is but I can’t see how it’s okay to let a newborn or young infant cry alone.

NP- I've never understood this reasoning. I think it's far more cruel to let a baby CIO after object permanence when they know you exist but aren't with them. At that point they wonder why mommy isn't coming back when they cry. A four month old doesn't wonder where you are.

Seriously?! You think it’s better for your baby to feel totally abandoned and alone in a dark world than be pissed you aren’t coming?!!

DP here and you’re truly insane!!

A four month old has no concept of abandoned.

Yeah, you really are nuts.