How much to pay a pod teacher?

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Anonymous wrote:For parents doing pods, how are you approaching liability issues that can arise from having someone else's children in your home?

What do people do in nanny shares?

What do people do when they have play dates???

Exactly. People are overthinking this. It’s not a at-home daycare. You’re literally just paying a babysitter or a tutor to supervise DL.

I very much disagree, but I guess it all depends on what people mean when they say "pod." But I think most of the descriptions here fall well outside of what people normally consider to be playdates and babysitting. If you have an older kid swinging by in the afternoon to take your kid to the park, maybe it would be babysitting. However, a regular group of kids gathering with a non-parent 3rd party for multiple hours during the day...not really.

In fact, babysitting has a very specific definition in DC employment law- it has to be provided by someone under 18 on an intermittent basis. http://dcwagelaw.com/laws/minimum-wage-overtime/dc/

If you are employing someone regularly to supervise your child(ren) and you meet the wage requirements (more than $2,100 per year in 2019) you are required to pay taxes and carry workers compensation insurance. Otherwise, you are breaking the law and, if caught or discovered, you can be sued, required to pay back wage & taxes, as well as fines.

Also, you would likely be surprised by the child care center definitions and regulations in DC. Just ask these folks- -https://www.hillrag.com/2018/10/26/hill-play-groups-in-danger-of-being-shut-down/

Of course, people break these rules all the time and folks are free to do so, but I imagine we will hear more than one horror story about pod families breaking up, pod leaders getting sick/injured, etc. Just think of the worst case scenario and plan for it- burring you head in the sand saying "this is babysitting" is shortsighted and foolish in my opinion.

You know what's shortsighted and foolish? Raising unhappy learners who aren't on track academically for months on end at critical ages to gain literacy and numeracy, e.g. ages 7-10.

DL was an abysmal failure for us in the spring, we can't afford private school and see no point in moving for DL elsewhere. We're hardly alone. So we're getting creative without breaking the rules. Like us, you can pay your capable small college pod supervisor $2,100 and not a penny more. Let them stay in your guest room and feed them meals if they're willing to work for in-kind compensation as a private guest. Don't include other children in your pod if that seems too risky, just have your guest supervise your own kids. Life is full of risks and horror stories. You simply have to muddle through on emergency footing sometimes, for the sake of family well-being.

[Anonymous]

It's more of a catch as catch can world than it was in March. Pay what you can, do what you can, try not to break the law.

[Anonymous]

Pretty good side hustle available finding lawbreakers and reporting.

The IRS pays a "finders fee" based on the amount recovered.

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Anonymous wrote:For parents doing pods, how are you approaching liability issues that can arise from having someone else's children in your home?

What do people do in nanny shares?

What do people do when they have play dates???

Exactly. People are overthinking this. It’s not a at-home daycare. You’re literally just paying a babysitter or a tutor to supervise DL.

I very much disagree, but I guess it all depends on what people mean when they say "pod." But I think most of the descriptions here fall well outside of what people normally consider to be playdates and babysitting. If you have an older kid swinging by in the afternoon to take your kid to the park, maybe it would be babysitting. However, a regular group of kids gathering with a non-parent 3rd party for multiple hours during the day...not really.

In fact, babysitting has a very specific definition in DC employment law- it has to be provided by someone under 18 on an intermittent basis. http://dcwagelaw.com/laws/minimum-wage-overtime/dc/

If you are employing someone regularly to supervise your child(ren) and you meet the wage requirements (more than $2,100 per year in 2019) you are required to pay taxes and carry workers compensation insurance. Otherwise, you are breaking the law and, if caught or discovered, you can be sued, required to pay back wage & taxes, as well as fines.

Also, you would likely be surprised by the child care center definitions and regulations in DC. Just ask these folks- -https://www.hillrag.com/2018/10/26/hill-play-groups-in-danger-of-being-shut-down/

Of course, people break these rules all the time and folks are free to do so, but I imagine we will hear more than one horror story about pod families breaking up, pod leaders getting sick/injured, etc. Just think of the worst case scenario and plan for it- burring you head in the sand saying "this is babysitting" is shortsighted and foolish in my opinion.

You know what's shortsighted and foolish? Raising unhappy learners who aren't on track academically for months on end at critical ages to gain literacy and numeracy, e.g. ages 7-10.

DL was an abysmal failure for us in the spring, we can't afford private school and see no point in moving for DL elsewhere. We're hardly alone. So we're getting creative without breaking the rules. Like us, you can pay your capable small college pod supervisor $2,100 and not a penny more. Let them stay in your guest room and feed them meals if they're willing to work for in-kind compensation as a private guest. Don't include other children in your pod if that seems too risky, just have your guest supervise your own kids. Life is full of risks and horror stories. You simply have to muddle through on emergency footing sometimes, for the sake of family well-being.

You found someone willing to supervise your kid’s DL for 2100$ for the entire semester? That’s impressive.

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zero - they are already getting paid by the school system

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Anonymous wrote:zero - they are already getting paid by the school system

Well my PK, on a 6 figure salary, had two 20 min calls a week (the $40k aide joined twice). Or are you saying the school system is going to send caretakers to my house so I can go to work?

[Anonymous]

I think the PP is trying to say is that we have teachers already, provided by the schools.

Caretakers are a different matter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:zero - they are already getting paid by the school system

Well my PK, on a 6 figure salary, had two 20 min calls a week (the $40k aide joined twice). Or are you saying the school system is going to send caretakers to my house so I can go to work?

Things weren't much better for my 2nd grader. We're teaming up with two other families to hire somebody to supervise DL for 3rd grade. Little kids do better learning on screens when there's a helpful adult in the room, period. We have to work from other rooms.

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Anonymous wrote:For parents doing pods, how are you approaching liability issues that can arise from having someone else's children in your home?

What do people do in nanny shares?

What do people do when they have play dates???

Exactly. People are overthinking this. It’s not a at-home daycare. You’re literally just paying a babysitter or a tutor to supervise DL.

I very much disagree, but I guess it all depends on what people mean when they say "pod." But I think most of the descriptions here fall well outside of what people normally consider to be playdates and babysitting. If you have an older kid swinging by in the afternoon to take your kid to the park, maybe it would be babysitting. However, a regular group of kids gathering with a non-parent 3rd party for multiple hours during the day...not really.

In fact, babysitting has a very specific definition in DC employment law- it has to be provided by someone under 18 on an intermittent basis. http://dcwagelaw.com/laws/minimum-wage-overtime/dc/

If you are employing someone regularly to supervise your child(ren) and you meet the wage requirements (more than $2,100 per year in 2019) you are required to pay taxes and carry workers compensation insurance. Otherwise, you are breaking the law and, if caught or discovered, you can be sued, required to pay back wage & taxes, as well as fines.

Also, you would likely be surprised by the child care center definitions and regulations in DC. Just ask these folks- -https://www.hillrag.com/2018/10/26/hill-play-groups-in-danger-of-being-shut-down/

Of course, people break these rules all the time and folks are free to do so, but I imagine we will hear more than one horror story about pod families breaking up, pod leaders getting sick/injured, etc. Just think of the worst case scenario and plan for it- burring you head in the sand saying "this is babysitting" is shortsighted and foolish in my opinion.

You know what's shortsighted and foolish? Raising unhappy learners who aren't on track academically for months on end at critical ages to gain literacy and numeracy, e.g. ages 7-10.

DL was an abysmal failure for us in the spring, we can't afford private school and see no point in moving for DL elsewhere. We're hardly alone. So we're getting creative without breaking the rules. Like us, you can pay your capable small college pod supervisor $2,100 and not a penny more. Let them stay in your guest room and feed them meals if they're willing to work for in-kind compensation as a private guest. Don't include other children in your pod if that seems too risky, just have your guest supervise your own kids. Life is full of risks and horror stories. You simply have to muddle through on emergency footing sometimes, for the sake of family well-being.

You found someone willing to supervise your kid’s DL for 2100$ for the entire semester? That’s impressive.

We're going with two people, each one for half the semester, living in. One person is a relative. We're not going to break the law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the PP is trying to say is that we have teachers already, provided by the schools.

Caretakers are a different matter.

Yes but teachers aren’t / can’t teach a 4 year old. I’d argue it won’t be anything of substance for PK-2nd or 3rd.

[Anonymous]

^^Even if your POD teacher is live-in you still have to pay minimum wage. A full time person in DC getting paid minimum wage meets the nanny tax threshold in less than a month...

[Anonymous]

Not if they only work around 15 hours a week they don't, like ours, and there are legal ways to calculate room and board contributions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^Even if your POD teacher is live-in you still have to pay minimum wage. A full time person in DC getting paid minimum wage meets the nanny tax threshold in less than a month...

DC minimum wage is $15 as of this summer. You can find a decent DL college kid supervisor for that, particularly if you host the person in a guest bedroom as some parents are doing. It's a win-win creative solution to keeping little kids on track with DL. The government just isn't going to bust you do if you make this kind of arrangement, now when there are droves of unemployed 20-somethings out there right now.

[Anonymous]

Teachers are cashing in. First, they force schools to close. Then, while collecting their full salary, they charge an arm and a leg for private tutoring. Nice racket.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teachers are cashing in. First, they force schools to close. Then, while collecting their full salary, they charge an arm and a leg for private tutoring. Nice racket.

I’m certainly not.