Updates on Scott Bloom Freedom Hill/ Haycock principal prosecution?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has there been any movement on any of these cases?

I wonder how many provisionally licensed special education teachers are running classrooms now in FCPS?

I'm sure quite a few. There's a massive shortage in special Ed.

Just so we are clear the issue here is not provisional. Some teachers are provisional because they moved states and have to go through the VA process. I've worked with wonderful veteran teachers from other states on provisional. And yes SPED is a critical need area for most school systems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has there been any movement on any of these cases?

I wonder how many provisionally licensed special education teachers are running classrooms now in FCPS?

I'm sure quite a few. There's a massive shortage in special Ed.

Just so we are clear the issue here is not provisional. Some teachers are provisional because they moved states and have to go through the VA process. I've worked with wonderful veteran teachers from other states on provisional. And yes SPED is a critical need area for most school systems.

+1 Reporting on numbers of provisional licenses tells you nothing. You want to look at whether they are provisional because they haven't yet had sufficient special education experience/training.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has there been any movement on any of these cases?

I wonder how many provisionally licensed special education teachers are running classrooms now in FCPS?

I'm sure quite a few. There's a massive shortage in special Ed.

Just so we are clear the issue here is not provisional. Some teachers are provisional because they moved states and have to go through the VA process. I've worked with wonderful veteran teachers from other states on provisional. And yes SPED is a critical need area for most school systems.

+1 Reporting on numbers of provisional licenses tells you nothing. You want to look at whether they are provisional because they haven't yet had sufficient special education experience/training.

This!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has there been any movement on any of these cases?

I wonder how many provisionally licensed special education teachers are running classrooms now in FCPS?

I'm sure quite a few. There's a massive shortage in special Ed.

Just so we are clear the issue here is not provisional. Some teachers are provisional because they moved states and have to go through the VA process. I've worked with wonderful veteran teachers from other states on provisional. And yes SPED is a critical need area for most school systems.

+1 Reporting on numbers of provisional licenses tells you nothing. You want to look at whether they are provisional because they haven't yet had sufficient special education experience/training.

NP. Is there a way to find out how many of the provisional license holders in FCPS are brand new to teaching vs the number who are experienced but new to the area? I would be willing to bet the teacher in question was not someone who was previously licensed in another state. FCPS should not put teachers with no prior teaching experience in these types of classrooms. It almost never works out. The county has to invest a ton of time and resources in making them even minimally competent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has there been any movement on any of these cases?

I wonder how many provisionally licensed special education teachers are running classrooms now in FCPS?

I'm sure quite a few. There's a massive shortage in special Ed.

Just so we are clear the issue here is not provisional. Some teachers are provisional because they moved states and have to go through the VA process. I've worked with wonderful veteran teachers from other states on provisional. And yes SPED is a critical need area for most school systems.

+1 Reporting on numbers of provisional licenses tells you nothing. You want to look at whether they are provisional because they haven't yet had sufficient special education experience/training.

NP. Is there a way to find out how many of the provisional license holders in FCPS are brand new to teaching vs the number who are experienced but new to the area? I would be willing to bet the teacher in question was not someone who was previously licensed in another state. FCPS should not put teachers with no prior teaching experience in these types of classrooms. It almost never works out. The county has to invest a ton of time and resources in making them even minimally competent.

I'm currently working with two provisional SPED teachers. One is wonderful and the other is pretty bad. The one with little experience is the better of the two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has there been any movement on any of these cases?

I wonder how many provisionally licensed special education teachers are running classrooms now in FCPS?

I'm sure quite a few. There's a massive shortage in special Ed.

Just so we are clear the issue here is not provisional. Some teachers are provisional because they moved states and have to go through the VA process. I've worked with wonderful veteran teachers from other states on provisional. And yes SPED is a critical need area for most school systems.

+1 Reporting on numbers of provisional licenses tells you nothing. You want to look at whether they are provisional because they haven't yet had sufficient special education experience/training.

NP. Is there a way to find out how many of the provisional license holders in FCPS are brand new to teaching vs the number who are experienced but new to the area? I would be willing to bet the teacher in question was not someone who was previously licensed in another state. FCPS should not put teachers with no prior teaching experience in these types of classrooms. It almost never works out. The county has to invest a ton of time and resources in making them even minimally competent.

I'm currently working with two provisional SPED teachers. One is wonderful and the other is pretty bad. The one with little experience is the better of the two.

I have worked with two new SPED teachers with provisional licenses. Both were really bad. Not abusive or anything but they did not follow protocol and were way over their heads. They both got written up multiple times but not fired because there's a massive shortage.

[Anonymous]

I'm currently working with two provisional SPED teachers. One is wonderful and the other is pretty bad. The one with little experience is the better of the two.

Everyone has to start somewhere. When I was teaching, we would say that new teachers bring the enthusiasm and old ones the experience. It's nice to have both on a team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I'm currently working with two provisional SPED teachers. One is wonderful and the other is pretty bad. The one with little experience is the better of the two.

Everyone has to start somewhere. When I was teaching, we would say that new teachers bring the enthusiasm and old ones the experience. It's nice to have both on a team.

Sure. But when I started teaching, I had gone through a teacher prep program that included student teaching. These teachers with provisional licenses have not completed the same coursework and preparation. All you need is a bachelors degree and to be currently taking a sped education course. That’s it. You can have a degree in political science, taken no education courses and get your provisional license in sped.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I'm currently working with two provisional SPED teachers. One is wonderful and the other is pretty bad. The one with little experience is the better of the two.

Everyone has to start somewhere. When I was teaching, we would say that new teachers bring the enthusiasm and old ones the experience. It's nice to have both on a team.

Sure. But when I started teaching, I had gone through a teacher prep program that included student teaching. These teachers with provisional licenses have not completed the same coursework and preparation. All you need is a bachelors degree and to be currently taking a sped education course. That’s it. You can have a degree in political science, taken no education courses and get your provisional license in sped.

Teacher who posted above. I had no idea about this. That is troubling, but I guess when there are not teachers available, this is what happens.

[Anonymous]

I think the troubling part about this is that FCPS originally described the 2 indicted women as aides and didn’t explain that one was acting as the teacher with a provisional license.

Our experience with aides has been really good, they were often more help than the teacher.

What is happening with the prosecutions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gustav was not an aid at the time of the incidents. She was the teacher of record in the classroom. She was on a provisional special education contract. The contract allows individuals to serve as special education teachers while they complete their certification requirements. FCPS did not make this clear in their statements because I'm sure they don't want anyone to know how many provisional contract teachers are filling special education positions.

Oh, this is BS. Where are the Post reporters who are always lurking here for stories?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I'm currently working with two provisional SPED teachers. One is wonderful and the other is pretty bad. The one with little experience is the better of the two.

Everyone has to start somewhere. When I was teaching, we would say that new teachers bring the enthusiasm and old ones the experience. It's nice to have both on a team.

Sure. But when I started teaching, I had gone through a teacher prep program that included student teaching. These teachers with provisional licenses have not completed the same coursework and preparation. All you need is a bachelors degree and to be currently taking a sped education course. That’s it. You can have a degree in political science, taken no education courses and get your provisional license in sped.

Teacher who posted above. I had no idea about this. That is troubling, but I guess when there are not teachers available, this is what happens.

This has been happening way before Covid. I can’t believe it’s allowed. It’s time to significantly raise the salaries and requirements for teachers in SPED, especially the ones who work in self contained classrooms. It’s not that no one wants those jobs. It’s that no one wants those jobs for $60k.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I'm currently working with two provisional SPED teachers. One is wonderful and the other is pretty bad. The one with little experience is the better of the two.

Everyone has to start somewhere. When I was teaching, we would say that new teachers bring the enthusiasm and old ones the experience. It's nice to have both on a team.

Sure. But when I started teaching, I had gone through a teacher prep program that included student teaching. These teachers with provisional licenses have not completed the same coursework and preparation. All you need is a bachelors degree and to be currently taking a sped education course. That’s it. You can have a degree in political science, taken no education courses and get your provisional license in sped.

Teacher who posted above. I had no idea about this. That is troubling, but I guess when there are not teachers available, this is what happens.

This has been happening way before Covid. I can’t believe it’s allowed. It’s time to significantly raise the salaries and requirements for teachers in SPED, especially the ones who work in self contained classrooms. It’s not that no one wants those jobs. It’s that no one wants those jobs for $60k.

I totally agree. I started in self contained and moved to a co-taught class and I can’t believe I make the same money. I feel like I was duped.

[Anonymous]

Has there been any word on where he is at now? I assume he is not teaching. He was our principal at Freedom Hill. Never had any issues with him so this whole story came out as a big shock to us.

[Anonymous]

Has anybody seen any updates on the prosecution of the teacher/ aide/ principal from Freedom Hill?