Tech CEOs predicting WFH will be permanent, and many employees will never come to an office again

[Anonymous]

A lot of smaller southern cities will be the biggest benefactors of WFH. Places like Savannah, Columbia, Greenville where having a salary above $65k in those cities is a cheat code for an easy life.

[Anonymous]

Not everyone will flee to remote areas. Some companies are talking about extending WFH more often but not necessarily permanently. Like having employees WFH 2-4 days a week, or meeting in person once or twice a month or at the start of new projects. Young people will still want walkability to bars and restaurants and brunch spots, museums etc. And employers will respond.

I love that more companies will expand WFH options but it's a pipe dream to assume everyone will just flee to a small town.

[Anonymous]

A lot of smaller southern cities will be the biggest benefactors of WFH. Places like Savannah, Columbia, Greenville where having a salary above $65k in those cities is a cheat code for an easy life.

CA person here. I guarantee you that CA workers in big tech are not considering relocating to Savannah, Columbia or Greenville. There is a HUGE aversion to southern culture out on the west coast. The furthest south CA are willing to relocate are areas like Austin or Dallas, TX which has a younger/urban feel to it. Texas is more western than southern too.

No one out here thinks of South Carolina as a charming place to live. West coast residents also can not handle humidity. People on the east coast may see SC has historical and charming but on the west coast it is no different than Alabama.

Most Californians actually do not leave the state like people do on the east coast. If they leave the Bay Area many move further up toward Sacramento or into one of the coastal areas like Santa Cruz, Monterey, Santa Barbara. The ones that do relocate out tend to go to Oregon, Nevada , Arizona or maybe Colorado.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

A lot of smaller southern cities will be the biggest benefactors of WFH. Places like Savannah, Columbia, Greenville where having a salary above $65k in those cities is a cheat code for an easy life.

CA person here. I guarantee you that CA workers in big tech are not considering relocating to Savannah, Columbia or Greenville. There is a HUGE aversion to southern culture out on the west coast. The furthest south CA are willing to relocate are areas like Austin or Dallas, TX which has a younger/urban feel to it. Texas is more western than southern too.

No one out here thinks of South Carolina as a charming place to live. West coast residents also can not handle humidity. People on the east coast may see SC has historical and charming but on the west coast it is no different than Alabama.

Most Californians actually do not leave the state like people do on the east coast. If they leave the Bay Area many move further up toward Sacramento or into one of the coastal areas like Santa Cruz, Monterey, Santa Barbara. The ones that do relocate out tend to go to Oregon, Nevada , Arizona or maybe Colorado.

Austin tx and Nashville are already tech hot spots

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

A lot of smaller southern cities will be the biggest benefactors of WFH. Places like Savannah, Columbia, Greenville where having a salary above $65k in those cities is a cheat code for an easy life.

CA person here. I guarantee you that CA workers in big tech are not considering relocating to Savannah, Columbia or Greenville. There is a HUGE aversion to southern culture out on the west coast. The furthest south CA are willing to relocate are areas like Austin or Dallas, TX which has a younger/urban feel to it. Texas is more western than southern too.

No one out here thinks of South Carolina as a charming place to live. West coast residents also can not handle humidity. People on the east coast may see SC has historical and charming but on the west coast it is no different than Alabama.

Most Californians actually do not leave the state like people do on the east coast. If they leave the Bay Area many move further up toward Sacramento or into one of the coastal areas like Santa Cruz, Monterey, Santa Barbara. The ones that do relocate out tend to go to Oregon, Nevada , Arizona or maybe Colorado.

Not sure about the Southeastern states, but Texas is absolutely being flooded with CA residents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A lot of smaller southern cities will be the biggest benefactors of WFH. Places like Savannah, Columbia, Greenville where having a salary above $65k in those cities is a cheat code for an easy life.

CA person here. I guarantee you that CA workers in big tech are not considering relocating to Savannah, Columbia or Greenville. There is a HUGE aversion to southern culture out on the west coast. The furthest south CA are willing to relocate are areas like Austin or Dallas, TX which has a younger/urban feel to it. Texas is more western than southern too.

No one out here thinks of South Carolina as a charming place to live. West coast residents also can not handle humidity. People on the east coast may see SC has historical and charming but on the west coast it is no different than Alabama.

Most Californians actually do not leave the state like people do on the east coast. If they leave the Bay Area many move further up toward Sacramento or into one of the coastal areas like Santa Cruz, Monterey, Santa Barbara. The ones that do relocate out tend to go to Oregon, Nevada , Arizona or maybe Colorado.

Not sure about the Southeastern states, but Texas is absolutely being flooded with CA residents.

Yes, but mostly in the big metro areas.

ITA with the ^CA poster. I'm also from CA originally, and many folks out in the west would never want to move to the south.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

A lot of smaller southern cities will be the biggest benefactors of WFH. Places like Savannah, Columbia, Greenville where having a salary above $65k in those cities is a cheat code for an easy life.

CA person here. I guarantee you that CA workers in big tech are not considering relocating to Savannah, Columbia or Greenville. There is a HUGE aversion to southern culture out on the west coast. The furthest south CA are willing to relocate are areas like Austin or Dallas, TX which has a younger/urban feel to it. Texas is more western than southern too.

No one out here thinks of South Carolina as a charming place to live. West coast residents also can not handle humidity. People on the east coast may see SC has historical and charming but on the west coast it is no different than Alabama.

Most Californians actually do not leave the state like people do on the east coast. If they leave the Bay Area many move further up toward Sacramento or into one of the coastal areas like Santa Cruz, Monterey, Santa Barbara. The ones that do relocate out tend to go to Oregon, Nevada , Arizona or maybe Colorado.

There is a huge aversion to southern culture in most places that are not the south. For good reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A lot of smaller southern cities will be the biggest benefactors of WFH. Places like Savannah, Columbia, Greenville where having a salary above $65k in those cities is a cheat code for an easy life.

CA person here. I guarantee you that CA workers in big tech are not considering relocating to Savannah, Columbia or Greenville. There is a HUGE aversion to southern culture out on the west coast. The furthest south CA are willing to relocate are areas like Austin or Dallas, TX which has a younger/urban feel to it. Texas is more western than southern too.

No one out here thinks of South Carolina as a charming place to live. West coast residents also can not handle humidity. People on the east coast may see SC has historical and charming but on the west coast it is no different than Alabama.

Most Californians actually do not leave the state like people do on the east coast. If they leave the Bay Area many move further up toward Sacramento or into one of the coastal areas like Santa Cruz, Monterey, Santa Barbara. The ones that do relocate out tend to go to Oregon, Nevada , Arizona or maybe Colorado.

There is a huge aversion to southern culture in most places that are not the south. For good reason.

Ugh, the gender norms are the worst.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A lot of smaller southern cities will be the biggest benefactors of WFH. Places like Savannah, Columbia, Greenville where having a salary above $65k in those cities is a cheat code for an easy life.

CA person here. I guarantee you that CA workers in big tech are not considering relocating to Savannah, Columbia or Greenville. There is a HUGE aversion to southern culture out on the west coast. The furthest south CA are willing to relocate are areas like Austin or Dallas, TX which has a younger/urban feel to it. Texas is more western than southern too.

No one out here thinks of South Carolina as a charming place to live. West coast residents also can not handle humidity. People on the east coast may see SC has historical and charming but on the west coast it is no different than Alabama.

Most Californians actually do not leave the state like people do on the east coast. If they leave the Bay Area many move further up toward Sacramento or into one of the coastal areas like Santa Cruz, Monterey, Santa Barbara. The ones that do relocate out tend to go to Oregon, Nevada , Arizona or maybe Colorado.

There is a huge aversion to southern culture in most places that are not the south. For good reason.

We call them traditional values.

Please friends, heritage not hate.

Ugh, the gender norms are the worst.

[Anonymous]

We call them traditional values.

Please friends, heritage not hate.

[Anonymous]

The nice thing is you could apply to a variety of private schools across the country and move to where you get in!

[Anonymous]

I see possibly an increase in telework, but not a majority of companies or the government moving to 100% telework. It's not going to significantly impact residential real estate if you still need to go to the office 1-3 days per week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a software engineer and lead a software team. We have noticed zero hiccups from working from home. Before this, some of our team was working remote anyway.

It's really hard for me to figure out the benefits of us going back. All I see are the added stress, and exhaustion over having to wake up earlier. Our meetings are shorter over teleconference. It's just a win-win all-around.

I do think if more private companies allow WFH, it will be that much harder for the government to attract younger workers to slog their way in to work. Especially those in the secure offices and no cell phones, etc.

How does mentoring work with WFM? I would think developing new talent would suffer with 100% WFH. Same for companies that work with teams.

[Anonymous]

Young “Creative” class leaving too. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-20/young-join-the-rich-fleeing-america-s-big-cities-for-suburbs

[Anonymous]

I am in the Feds, if my contracting staff insists on teleworking I'll most likely just not renew all the positions that opt out. While I know no one wants to get sick, it is hard enough to manipulate a bureaucracy when present. I get great product out of maybe 30% of the people anyway. This will be a decent way to cull to dead weight. Labor protections don't point to the Gov either, they point to their defense contractor overlords.

My advice to workers out there. If you draw a line in the sand, you better be indispensable. I suspect I'll have a dozen behind you shortly who will take your spot and come in. Not wanting to get sick is not a protected class