Maryland Recovery Plan for Education has been posted

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Different society and culture. We are reopening because we refuse to provide a real safety net and the billionaires want economy open. You think that’s changing by the fall? Also, I can’t talk all day with a mask on. Teachers and kids will be passing out left and right.

I didn't know that people's ability to talk with a mask on was dependent on societal and cultural factors.

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So really teachers, quit your whining that you "can't breath in a mask" or "can't teach in a mask". You could learn to do it if you wanted to and wanted to keep your job.

So obnoxious. I love people who think they know what’s its like to talk all day for a job and that they can just say “do it or yer fired” and that this will magically make it so.

-People who have never worn a mask all day long: I can't wear a mask all day long!
-People who have worn a mask all day long: Actually, you can.
-You: So obnoxious! What do those people know about it?

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So really teachers, quit your whining that you "can't breath in a mask" or "can't teach in a mask". You could learn to do it if you wanted to and wanted to keep your job.

So obnoxious. I love people who think they know what’s its like to talk all day for a job and that they can just say “do it or yer fired” and that this will magically make it so.

-People who have never worn a mask all day long: I can't wear a mask all day long!
-People who have worn a mask all day long: Actually, you can.
-You: So obnoxious! What do those people know about it?

Do you literally talk all day at your job while wearing a mask?

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So really teachers, quit your whining that you "can't breath in a mask" or "can't teach in a mask". You could learn to do it if you wanted to and wanted to keep your job.

So obnoxious. I love people who think they know what’s its like to talk all day for a job and that they can just say “do it or yer fired” and that this will magically make it so.

-People who have never worn a mask all day long: I can't wear a mask all day long!
-People who have worn a mask all day long: Actually, you can.
-You: So obnoxious! What do those people know about it?

Do you literally talk all day at your job while wearing a mask?

Do teachers literally talk all day, now? They didn't when I was a student, and they didn't when I was a student teacher.

Also, what is happening in other countries where teachers are wearing masks?

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So really teachers, quit your whining that you "can't breath in a mask" or "can't teach in a mask". You could learn to do it if you wanted to and wanted to keep your job.

So obnoxious. I love people who think they know what’s its like to talk all day for a job and that they can just say “do it or yer fired” and that this will magically make it so.

-People who have never worn a mask all day long: I can't wear a mask all day long!
-People who have worn a mask all day long: Actually, you can.
-You: So obnoxious! What do those people know about it?

Do you literally talk all day at your job while wearing a mask?

Do teachers literally talk all day, now? They didn't when I was a student, and they didn't when I was a student teacher.

Also, what is happening in other countries where teachers are wearing masks?

I do talk a lot and it's not like I lecture for entire class period. But schools are old, hot and you've got to drink water. I'll tell you all what's going to happen. They'll order the masks. Within a week, kids will be constantly pulling them down, getting passes from the nurse because of their medical conditions etc. Everyone will slack off as to compliance. The masks will not prevent an outbreak and we'll be back to all virtual learning. Social distancing is the only possibly solution and hybrid education. This is going to impact parents in the workplace immensely and for that, I am sorry. We need a better way in our country. But just because you saw a picture of little elementary schoolers in China wearing masks, that doesn't mean that they wear them all day perfectly. And kids in Europe aren't wearing them. They are socially distancing.

And now I'm done getting sucked into this rabbit hole. I've actually got quite a bit of grading to do today.

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I did a video conference last week in a mask. There were 4 other locations, all with masked people. Everyone heard one another with no problems.

Teachers need to buck up and stop complaining about masks.

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Anonymous wrote:The cost of just social distancing on the bus (and thorough cleaning after each run--there's no time for that) would be prohibitive. You would need so many more buses and drivers.

Now tell us about RideOn, Metrobus, Metro trains, and MARC trains, all of which people are going to use, and need, if they go back to work.

I haven't heard anybody say: Workplaces will be closed in the fall, because the cost of social distancing on public transportation will be prohibitive.

Yeah, MCPS students aren’t taking MARC to school. Few are taking Metrobus or Metro trains. There’s a sizable number of low income kids who take Ride On, but most kids who don’t walk, bike, or carpool are on MCPS’ fleet of cheese buses. Dirty in regular times, they will be teeming with coronavirus in October if we do a full reopen.

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Anonymous wrote:I did a video conference last week in a mask. There were 4 other locations, all with masked people. Everyone heard one another with no problems.

Teachers need to buck up and stop complaining about masks.

Adults are better at listening than kids.

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So what the the answer?

Other countries across the WORLD are able to function with teachers and students in masks.
Entire hospital staffs in the US from doctors to custodians are able to function with masks.

US teachers CANNOT, WILL NOT teach in masks.

= All US schools will be virtual until there is a vaccine.

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Anonymous wrote:Its all just for show. These are the only two realistic scenarios for fall in a world of limited funds: (1) school is back in session as usual, with a few extra precautions and (2) school is totally online.

There is huge political impetus for scenario (1) .

If daycares are operating as normal (for non-essential workers), then there is no justification for keeping schools closed. There is no way we will get to fall and still have the federal government working from home (mostly because the federal government is pretending COVIDis over). There is no way the federal goverment can go back to work until daycares are open.

MY bet is on scenario 1 and this report is just to make the people who put it together feel like they have a contingency plan.

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Unless something completely catastrophic happens with regard to the virus schools will be back. Maybe a few precautions like lunch in the classrooms. Nothing else is even remotely possible. The 2021 nonsense is just to placate the crazies.

I guess you didn’t read the report or listen to the press conference.

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Anonymous wrote:Because we are shrugging our shoulders at the increasing cases all around the country (except for the coasts, which took significant mitigation measures and are reopening cautiously), we're going to have a massive problem by the fall. I think schools will wind up doing the hybrid model but the virus will causes closures. Half the people here are in denial about that and some are the other end of the spectrum and are convinced it's all shut down until the mythical vaccine. Neither is probably what happens.

But it's not going to be a normal year by any stretch of the imagination.

I'm a teacher and there's no way I can teach in a mask all day. And there's no way kids keep them on (and I teach HIGH SCHOOL). Forget about it at the ES level.

Teacher, I think you underestimate people. Kids can be taught to keep the masks on. Sure, it will take reminders in the beginning and you will have the unruly kids who take them off to break the rules. But, for the most part, you will see compliance.

I think it is extremely challenging to keep a mask on as an adult. This is not realistic. Kids can't do this.

From what I've read, the plans in other countries for re-opened schools include kids wearing masks. So either kids can do this, or the countries where schools have re-opened are making unrealistic plans.

Yes, because kids in other countries and other countries are FAR less entitled and whiney than we are in America. That is one thing that this virus has made abdunantly clear.

Listen, I work as a nurse. I've worn a mask for 12 hour shifts for years because I work with bone marrow transplant patients who have very little immune systems.
Surgeons wear masks for 10 and 12 hour surgeries all the time.
Now with covid, every one at hospitals are wearing masks--security guards, food service workers, social workers, custodians, doctors, nurses. Entire hospital staffs are wearing them for 12 hours at time. Why? Because the alternative is 1) lose your job and/or 2) get sick.
No-one likes wearing them. No one likes the feeling of breathing through one. It's not comfortable for ANYONE to wear a mask for hours at a time. EVERYONE looks forward to that first sweet breath when you finally take it off.

But we all do it daily (including all the people who aren't trained medical professionals and in many cases are doing manual labor) because we value our jobs and we value our lives and the lives of our patients.

So really teachers, quit your whining that you "can't breath in a mask" or "can't teach in a mask". You could learn to do it if you wanted to and wanted to keep your job.

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Anonymous wrote:How will they have the staff to cover lunches in classrooms and enough teachers to cover smaller classes spread out using MS space?

It says that they are going to cut out all specials--PE, music, art, etc-- and special education and repurpose those teachers as classroom teachers.

That's basically the warm-body theory of teaching.

One of my math teachers was actually the PE teacher. He might have known how to teach PE, but I didn't have him as a PE teacher so I don't know. He certainly did not know how to teach math.

+1. As a private tutor I see the downstream impact of this - kids who aren’t taught effectively end up not understanding the material. Since math builds on prior concepts these kids end up thinking they are dumb at math or, worse, dumb overall. Teachers reinforce that these kids are stupid, because the alternative is that they are capable student taught poorly reflects badly on the teacher.

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I commend them for being thoughtful and exploring many possibilities.


What about really want is a 100% distance learning option for those kids with fragile medical situations or who live with such relatives.

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I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect teachers and kids to wear masks all day. Everyone needs to expect to be back to school in the fall as normal. Extra cleaning and hand sanitizer.

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Anonymous wrote:The cost of just social distancing on the bus (and thorough cleaning after each run--there's no time for that) would be prohibitive. You would need so many more buses and drivers.

Now tell us about RideOn, Metrobus, Metro trains, and MARC trains, all of which people are going to use, and need, if they go back to work.

I haven't heard anybody say: Workplaces will be closed in the fall, because the cost of social distancing on public transportation will be prohibitive.

Yeah, MCPS students aren’t taking MARC to school. Few are taking Metrobus or Metro trains. There’s a sizable number of low income kids who take Ride On, but most kids who don’t walk, bike, or carpool are on MCPS’ fleet of cheese buses. Dirty in regular times, they will be teeming with coronavirus in October if we do a full reopen.

MCPS parents will take MARC, Metrobus, Metro, and RideOn to work.