When will soccer (and sports in general) start up again?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not in 2020. We emailed our coaxhes and said none of our DC have time for Zoom meetings. Basically dared them to challenge our decision. And we are at a big DA club! All of them backed down. 2 of them admitted they were told to do it. Our players are top on their teams. Told them we would be ready to worry about soccer at the end of the year and that no one we knew gives a crap right now about sports. Health, jobs, savings. Not the coaches that coach little kid soccer. Ours are in tremendous shape and not worrying about juggling at home. Feel bad for all the new parents worried their player may be penalized. Told one coach the club was an ass for not sending communications that there was no realistic chance for group training anything in 2020. He agreed.

This is totally separate from should soccer be cancelled, refunded , are players penalized etc. Financial pressures are real as we are a small business owner. And not sure, what age your kids are.

But for kids in middle school and high school, there is a lot of research by experts in psychology, adolescent mental health, resilience etc - that continuing daily routines, physical activity, doing what you can control in a situation when you don't have a lot of control, etc is helpful for kids for their mental health. Our schools are sending out resources on a daily basis from experts supporting this philosophy.

We have middle and high school kids, they need the structure of still doing activities (conditioning, drills, connecting with team mates) for their mental health, if not their physical health. So yes, for their mental health, we are encouraging and supporting daily routines on sports. I'm not saying it has to be tied to app, zoom, etc. Though our coach interaction has been helpful and based on what I know, other parents are grateful for that interaction as well. If it's stressful or unhelpful for kids, then don't do it. If it may help them, maybe consider it. Everybody's experience is different.

OK, coach. Too bad all the clubs will eventually be issuing partial refunds. There will be no Fall season and parents and players hate the Zoom soccer charade being sold. But you keep trying for another month with your team and see how it goes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not in 2020. We emailed our coaxhes and said none of our DC have time for Zoom meetings. Basically dared them to challenge our decision. And we are at a big DA club! All of them backed down. 2 of them admitted they were told to do it. Our players are top on their teams. Told them we would be ready to worry about soccer at the end of the year and that no one we knew gives a crap right now about sports. Health, jobs, savings. Not the coaches that coach little kid soccer. Ours are in tremendous shape and not worrying about juggling at home. Feel bad for all the new parents worried their player may be penalized. Told one coach the club was an ass for not sending communications that there was no realistic chance for group training anything in 2020. He agreed.

This is totally separate from should soccer be cancelled, refunded , are players penalized etc. Financial pressures are real as we are a small business owner. And not sure, what age your kids are.

But for kids in middle school and high school, there is a lot of research by experts in psychology, adolescent mental health, resilience etc - that continuing daily routines, physical activity, doing what you can control in a situation when you don't have a lot of control, etc is helpful for kids for their mental health. Our schools are sending out resources on a daily basis from experts supporting this philosophy.

We have middle and high school kids, they need the structure of still doing activities (conditioning, drills, connecting with team mates) for their mental health, if not their physical health. So yes, for their mental health, we are encouraging and supporting daily routines on sports. I'm not saying it has to be tied to app, zoom, etc. Though our coach interaction has been helpful and based on what I know, other parents are grateful for that interaction as well. If it's stressful or unhelpful for kids, then don't do it. If it may help them, maybe consider it. Everybody's experience is different.

OK, coach. Too bad all the clubs will eventually be issuing partial refunds. There will be no Fall season and parents and players hate the Zoom soccer charade being sold. But you keep trying for another month with your team and see how it goes.

I'm a coach, but don't have much influence in what my club's leadership ultimately decides to do re: refunds/credits. Honestly curious--what would you prefer the clubs do? Issue refunds and instruct the coaches to cease any attempt at keeping the players engaged? Issue refunds and have us continue with the "zoom charade" without being paid for whatever work has been put into it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not in 2020. We emailed our coaxhes and said none of our DC have time for Zoom meetings. Basically dared them to challenge our decision. And we are at a big DA club! All of them backed down. 2 of them admitted they were told to do it. Our players are top on their teams. Told them we would be ready to worry about soccer at the end of the year and that no one we knew gives a crap right now about sports. Health, jobs, savings. Not the coaches that coach little kid soccer. Ours are in tremendous shape and not worrying about juggling at home. Feel bad for all the new parents worried their player may be penalized. Told one coach the club was an ass for not sending communications that there was no realistic chance for group training anything in 2020. He agreed.

This is totally separate from should soccer be cancelled, refunded , are players penalized etc. Financial pressures are real as we are a small business owner. And not sure, what age your kids are.

But for kids in middle school and high school, there is a lot of research by experts in psychology, adolescent mental health, resilience etc - that continuing daily routines, physical activity, doing what you can control in a situation when you don't have a lot of control, etc is helpful for kids for their mental health. Our schools are sending out resources on a daily basis from experts supporting this philosophy.

We have middle and high school kids, they need the structure of still doing activities (conditioning, drills, connecting with team mates) for their mental health, if not their physical health. So yes, for their mental health, we are encouraging and supporting daily routines on sports. I'm not saying it has to be tied to app, zoom, etc. Though our coach interaction has been helpful and based on what I know, other parents are grateful for that interaction as well. If it's stressful or unhelpful for kids, then don't do it. If it may help them, maybe consider it. Everybody's experience is different.

OK, coach. Too bad all the clubs will eventually be issuing partial refunds. There will be no Fall season and parents and players hate the Zoom soccer charade being sold. But you keep trying for another month with your team and see how it goes.

I'm a coach, but don't have much influence in what my club's leadership ultimately decides to do re: refunds/credits. Honestly curious--what would you prefer the clubs do? Issue refunds and instruct the coaches to cease any attempt at keeping the players engaged? Issue refunds and have us continue with the "zoom charade" without being paid for whatever work has been put into it?

I would be ok with issuing partial refunds and continue to pay coaches a portion of their salary. We don't need zoom practices. My DD did one this week for the first time and it was stupid. The coach watching the girls do drills in tiny boxes just randomly calling out names so they knew she was watching. It was fun for the girls but did not need a coach running it. I think parents could coordinate this without coaches help. Coaches can just send out weekly workout ideas to earn their partial salary.

[Anonymous]

Colleges are talking about the possibility of resuming mid October, possibility September. High possibility of fall sports being cancelled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not in 2020. We emailed our coaxhes and said none of our DC have time for Zoom meetings. Basically dared them to challenge our decision. And we are at a big DA club! All of them backed down. 2 of them admitted they were told to do it. Our players are top on their teams. Told them we would be ready to worry about soccer at the end of the year and that no one we knew gives a crap right now about sports. Health, jobs, savings. Not the coaches that coach little kid soccer. Ours are in tremendous shape and not worrying about juggling at home. Feel bad for all the new parents worried their player may be penalized. Told one coach the club was an ass for not sending communications that there was no realistic chance for group training anything in 2020. He agreed.

This is totally separate from should soccer be cancelled, refunded , are players penalized etc. Financial pressures are real as we are a small business owner. And not sure, what age your kids are.

But for kids in middle school and high school, there is a lot of research by experts in psychology, adolescent mental health, resilience etc - that continuing daily routines, physical activity, doing what you can control in a situation when you don't have a lot of control, etc is helpful for kids for their mental health. Our schools are sending out resources on a daily basis from experts supporting this philosophy.

We have middle and high school kids, they need the structure of still doing activities (conditioning, drills, connecting with team mates) for their mental health, if not their physical health. So yes, for their mental health, we are encouraging and supporting daily routines on sports. I'm not saying it has to be tied to app, zoom, etc. Though our coach interaction has been helpful and based on what I know, other parents are grateful for that interaction as well. If it's stressful or unhelpful for kids, then don't do it. If it may help them, maybe consider it. Everybody's experience is different.

OK, coach. Too bad all the clubs will eventually be issuing partial refunds. There will be no Fall season and parents and players hate the Zoom soccer charade being sold. But you keep trying for another month with your team and see how it goes.

I'm a coach, but don't have much influence in what my club's leadership ultimately decides to do re: refunds/credits. Honestly curious--what would you prefer the clubs do? Issue refunds and instruct the coaches to cease any attempt at keeping the players engaged? Issue refunds and have us continue with the "zoom charade" without being paid for whatever work has been put into it?

I would be ok with issuing partial refunds and continue to pay coaches a portion of their salary. We don't need zoom practices. My DD did one this week for the first time and it was stupid. The coach watching the girls do drills in tiny boxes just randomly calling out names so they knew she was watching. It was fun for the girls but did not need a coach running it. I think parents could coordinate this without coaches help. Coaches can just send out weekly workout ideas to earn their partial salary.

I agree 100% that zoom practices with coaches running them don't seem all that worthwhile. Our club has been using zoom but not for an actual practice. For training, we've sent our players a spreadsheet for them to use that outlines their workouts for each day, the coaches monitor that daily but we have been encouraging them to take responsibility for motivating themselves to complete the workouts while we're in this period where we can't train as a group. We supplement that with a weekly zoom tactical session, where we have the players organized into groups of 4-5 according to position. The coaches choose a topic to discuss and share a few online clips with the players that illustrate that topic, and then spend 30-45 minutes analyzing/discussing.

I'm mostly involved with our older age groups though, where it's much more likely they can (and will) take ownership of doing things on their own and have access to technology without needing much help/guidance from their parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Colleges are talking about the possibility of resuming mid October, possibility September. High possibility of fall sports being cancelled.

August seems realistic