UNC vs UVA (OOS)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My thread title may not be clear. We are DC residents so both are OOS.

UVA for sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which would you pick?

Both schools have taken hits to their reputations in recent years.

UVA seriously bungled the Rolling Stone rape story, which turned out to be a fraud and a hoax. But the UVA administration leapt into action and shut down a fraternity house and smeared a number of the boys living there. No due process. Tar and feather your own students -- before the evidence (or lack thereof) can be evaluated. Shameful behavior on the part of UVA.

And, of course, we all know about the academic cheating scandal involving UNC athletes. A big mess, and the kind of black mark that lasts a long, long time.

Uh, 2014. No one even talks about that anymore at UVA. Even raising it is bizarre. And I think the admin. handled the best way they could at the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whatever you do, just remember that there's a strong anti-UVA bias on DCUM. It's a combination of many UVA alums having an annoyingly elitist attitude and lots of DC area families whose kids couldn't get into UVA. So a classic superiority complex running into an inferiority complex. Makes for some fireworks and irrational advice.

Both UVA and UNC are great schools. Can't go wrong with either of them.

What you say that follows makes sense, but I've always thought it is simply group with a pro-UVA bias colliding with a group with an anti-UVA bias.

There is a pro-UVA camp that won't tolerate any perceived slight. There is an anti-UVA camp that misses no opportunities to put it down. Then there are people with no inherent bias who often get cut down in the cross-fire if they venture to make a comment.

[Anonymous]

Go pay a visit to the campus of each, you will be ready to choose.
One is much more beautiful. You will know when you see it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which would you pick?

Both schools have taken hits to their reputations in recent years.

UVA seriously bungled the Rolling Stone rape story, which turned out to be a fraud and a hoax. But the UVA administration leapt into action and shut down a fraternity house and smeared a number of the boys living there. No due process. Tar and feather your own students -- before the evidence (or lack thereof) can be evaluated. Shameful behavior on the part of UVA.

And, of course, we all know about the academic cheating scandal involving UNC athletes. A big mess, and the kind of black mark that lasts a long, long time.

Uh, 2014. No one even talks about that anymore at UVA. Even raising it is bizarre. And I think the admin. handled the best way they could at the time.

That's right. Ancient history. We swept it under the rug a while ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which would you pick?

Both schools have taken hits to their reputations in recent years.

UVA seriously bungled the Rolling Stone rape story, which turned out to be a fraud and a hoax. But the UVA administration leapt into action and shut down a fraternity house and smeared a number of the boys living there. No due process. Tar and feather your own students -- before the evidence (or lack thereof) can be evaluated. Shameful behavior on the part of UVA.

And, of course, we all know about the academic cheating scandal involving UNC athletes. A big mess, and the kind of black mark that lasts a long, long time.

Uh, 2014. No one even talks about that anymore at UVA. Even raising it is bizarre. And I think the admin. handled the best way they could at the time.

That's right. Ancient history. We swept it under the rug a while ago.

Nailed it, PP. -Signed, UVA alum

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go pay a visit to the campus of each, you will be ready to choose.
One is much more beautiful. You will know when you see it.

Excellent advice.

[Anonymous]

Add to that excellent advice!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UNC without a doubt and regardless of the cost differential.

Have you toured the campuses? UNC wins hands down. The campus is beautiful and well-kept. There is a lot of money being poured into it and you can see it everywhere on campus. Whereas UVA is really run down and it has a strong hard-luck vibe now that it didn't have back when I was a student there. I wish I could say that UVA has done a good job keeping up appearances but it just hasn't. Enough said.

There also is a lot to be said for the easy drive to UNC. A straight shot down 95 to 84 on nice straight interstate highways. It is pretty much a piece of cake.

Although in this area there are a lot of UVA supporters it is my opinion that UNC has a better national/international profile and name recognition.

UNC has a better national representation? Haha, no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

UVA will be more conservative, UNC will be more diverse

Neither of these statements is true.

Nope. They are true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UNC is in Duke's shadow nearby, whereas UVA is the top school in Virginia.

Ha ha ha. No. Go ask your Alexa why Duke sucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go pay a visit to the campus of each, you will be ready to choose.
One is much more beautiful. You will know when you see it.

I am curious if poster thinks one is clearly more beautiful or if they just think one will jump out. I have visited both recently and I am not sure which one I would pick as more beautiful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which would you pick?

I don't think I'd pay OOS tuition for either. There are many academically comparable private schools where you'll be able to pay less -- and your kid will get more personal attention.

Worth every out of state penny!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UNC is in Duke's shadow nearby, whereas UVA is the top school in Virginia.

UVA is in Duke's shadow, but somewhat further away.

Nobody is in Dooks shadow. Its hard to say why in a kind way.
But proximity does add to the fun!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which would you pick?

I don't think I'd pay OOS tuition for either. There are many academically comparable private schools where you'll be able to pay less -- and your kid will get more personal attention.

OP here. That was not our experience. The private schools that seem to be in the same tier as these two that DC got into did not give any aid so would be paying $75K + (Rochester and Boston College) which isn’t really in the budget. The two schools that did give her enough aid to make the costs a little bit less ($38K total at Loyola MD and $48K at Syracuse) I don’t think would really be considered academically comparable. Maybe I’m wrong.