Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the New York Times:

“Density is really an enemy in a situation like this,” said Dr. Steven Goodman, an epidemiologist at Stanford University. “With large population centers, where people are interacting with more people all the time, that’s where it’s going to spread the fastest.”

The challenge facing New York and other tightly cramped cities around the United States can be seen by comparing the country’s largest city to its second biggest, Los Angeles.

As of Monday, there were more than 13,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus in New York and about 500 in Los Angeles. New York reported 125 deaths; Los Angeles reported seven.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc-crowds-density.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

You know who's really going to be in trouble?

Old people in rural areas where the hospitals have closed.

They are not going to get it, sorry. Now the person in Manhattan in a bed in the javits center he’ll wish he lived in West Virginia at that moment

Some will be, that's for sure. My best friend, who has lived in Manhattan for nearly a decade and loved every minute, is now asking me if it would be crazy to rent a place here in MoCo for the short term. He and spouse are going crazy WFH in their studio AND have a baby coming in a few months.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the New York Times:

“Density is really an enemy in a situation like this,” said Dr. Steven Goodman, an epidemiologist at Stanford University. “With large population centers, where people are interacting with more people all the time, that’s where it’s going to spread the fastest.”

The challenge facing New York and other tightly cramped cities around the United States can be seen by comparing the country’s largest city to its second biggest, Los Angeles.

As of Monday, there were more than 13,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus in New York and about 500 in Los Angeles. New York reported 125 deaths; Los Angeles reported seven.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc-crowds-density.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

You know who's really going to be in trouble?

Old people in rural areas where the hospitals have closed.

They are not going to get it, sorry. Now the person in Manhattan in a bed in the javits center he’ll wish he lived in West Virginia at that moment

Some will be, that's for sure. My best friend, who has lived in Manhattan for nearly a decade and loved every minute, is now asking me if it would be crazy to rent a place here in MoCo for the short term. He and spouse are going crazy WFH in their studio AND have a baby coming in a few months.

Living in a studio with a baby is insane, even without a pandemic. No one will ever sleep again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the New York Times:

“Density is really an enemy in a situation like this,” said Dr. Steven Goodman, an epidemiologist at Stanford University. “With large population centers, where people are interacting with more people all the time, that’s where it’s going to spread the fastest.”

The challenge facing New York and other tightly cramped cities around the United States can be seen by comparing the country’s largest city to its second biggest, Los Angeles.

As of Monday, there were more than 13,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus in New York and about 500 in Los Angeles. New York reported 125 deaths; Los Angeles reported seven.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc-crowds-density.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

You know who's really going to be in trouble?

Old people in rural areas where the hospitals have closed.

They are not going to get it, sorry. Now the person in Manhattan in a bed in the javits center he’ll wish he lived in West Virginia at that moment

Some will be, that's for sure. My best friend, who has lived in Manhattan for nearly a decade and loved every minute, is now asking me if it would be crazy to rent a place here in MoCo for the short term. He and spouse are going crazy WFH in their studio AND have a baby coming in a few months.

Living in a studio with a baby is insane, even without a pandemic. No one will ever sleep again.

They were actively working with a realtor to move into a larger place. For now the search had to be halted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the New York Times:

“Density is really an enemy in a situation like this,” said Dr. Steven Goodman, an epidemiologist at Stanford University. “With large population centers, where people are interacting with more people all the time, that’s where it’s going to spread the fastest.”

The challenge facing New York and other tightly cramped cities around the United States can be seen by comparing the country’s largest city to its second biggest, Los Angeles.

As of Monday, there were more than 13,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus in New York and about 500 in Los Angeles. New York reported 125 deaths; Los Angeles reported seven.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc-crowds-density.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

You know who's really going to be in trouble?

Old people in rural areas where the hospitals have closed.

They are not going to get it, sorry. Now the person in Manhattan in a bed in the javits center he’ll wish he lived in West Virginia at that moment

They absolutely will get it. They are already getting it. That's the "pan" part of pandemic. The virus doesn't think, "Oh, West Virginia, I don't want to go there..."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the New York Times:

“Density is really an enemy in a situation like this,” said Dr. Steven Goodman, an epidemiologist at Stanford University. “With large population centers, where people are interacting with more people all the time, that’s where it’s going to spread the fastest.”

The challenge facing New York and other tightly cramped cities around the United States can be seen by comparing the country’s largest city to its second biggest, Los Angeles.

As of Monday, there were more than 13,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus in New York and about 500 in Los Angeles. New York reported 125 deaths; Los Angeles reported seven.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc-crowds-density.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

You know who's really going to be in trouble?

Old people in rural areas where the hospitals have closed.

They are not going to get it, sorry. Now the person in Manhattan in a bed in the javits center he’ll wish he lived in West Virginia at that moment

They absolutely will get it. They are already getting it. That's the "pan" part of pandemic. The virus doesn't think, "Oh, West Virginia, I don't want to go there..."

Not at even close to the percentages that people in densely populated areas will. They are de facto already socially isolating by virtue of how they live

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Not at even close to the percentages that people in densely populated areas will. They are de facto already socially isolating by virtue of how they live

The US was much more rural in 1918. How did that work out, flu-wise?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Coronavirus is going to absolutely crush hospitals in NYC.

This is the scary part. They don't have anywhere near the hospital capacity they need for all those people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the New York Times:

“Density is really an enemy in a situation like this,” said Dr. Steven Goodman, an epidemiologist at Stanford University. “With large population centers, where people are interacting with more people all the time, that’s where it’s going to spread the fastest.”

The challenge facing New York and other tightly cramped cities around the United States can be seen by comparing the country’s largest city to its second biggest, Los Angeles.

As of Monday, there were more than 13,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus in New York and about 500 in Los Angeles. New York reported 125 deaths; Los Angeles reported seven.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc-crowds-density.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

You know who's really going to be in trouble?

Old people in rural areas where the hospitals have closed.

They are not going to get it, sorry. Now the person in Manhattan in a bed in the javits center he’ll wish he lived in West Virginia at that moment

They absolutely will get it. They are already getting it. That's the "pan" part of pandemic. The virus doesn't think, "Oh, West Virginia, I don't want to go there..."

Not at even close to the percentages that people in densely populated areas will. They are de facto already socially isolating by virtue of how they live

My mother is a doctor in WV. Things are not going awesome so there goes your theory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just found this thread. So fun. I have NEVER really understood the argument for increasing density in the name of saving the planet and global warming. Maybe at the expense of humanity as we are seeing.

Anyway, why does there seem to be an assumption in this thread that Single Family Homes are being occupied by predominately singles and empty nesters? There seem to be LOTS of families with kids of all ages in green leafy DC neighborhoods.

My family has been getting a daily walk or two over the course of this event. I must say that I am very grateful that I am walking through green neighborhoods and not concrete canyons that the "make it denser and build it higher" lobby are always pushing for. Whoever passed the current height laws was a visionary and knew that people needed to breathe.

Good luck to all. Enjoy your wide quiet streets in these times.

It’s one thing to say you don’t think the arguments hold up for XYZ reasons, but to actually not understand them means you just aren’t very bright. Par for the course unfortunately for the anxious, aging boomers who fetishize SFHs and cars

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the New York Times:

“Density is really an enemy in a situation like this,” said Dr. Steven Goodman, an epidemiologist at Stanford University. “With large population centers, where people are interacting with more people all the time, that’s where it’s going to spread the fastest.”

The challenge facing New York and other tightly cramped cities around the United States can be seen by comparing the country’s largest city to its second biggest, Los Angeles.

As of Monday, there were more than 13,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus in New York and about 500 in Los Angeles. New York reported 125 deaths; Los Angeles reported seven.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc-crowds-density.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coronavirus is going to absolutely crush hospitals in NYC.

This is the scary part. They don't have anywhere near the hospital capacity they need for all those people.

There isn't anywhere in the US that does. Or in the world.

[Anonymous]

Starbucks are closed but franchised Starbucks areas in stires like Giant continue to operate. Unfriggin-believable and totally irresponsible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just found this thread. So fun. I have NEVER really understood the argument for increasing density in the name of saving the planet and global warming. Maybe at the expense of humanity as we are seeing.

Anyway, why does there seem to be an assumption in this thread that Single Family Homes are being occupied by predominately singles and empty nesters? There seem to be LOTS of families with kids of all ages in green leafy DC neighborhoods.

My family has been getting a daily walk or two over the course of this event. I must say that I am very grateful that I am walking through green neighborhoods and not concrete canyons that the "make it denser and build it higher" lobby are always pushing for. Whoever passed the current height laws was a visionary and knew that people needed to breathe.

Good luck to all. Enjoy your wide quiet streets in these times.

This is so true! Let’s keep Washington low-scale, green and walkable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just found this thread. So fun. I have NEVER really understood the argument for increasing density in the name of saving the planet and global warming. Maybe at the expense of humanity as we are seeing.

Anyway, why does there seem to be an assumption in this thread that Single Family Homes are being occupied by predominately singles and empty nesters? There seem to be LOTS of families with kids of all ages in green leafy DC neighborhoods.

My family has been getting a daily walk or two over the course of this event. I must say that I am very grateful that I am walking through green neighborhoods and not concrete canyons that the "make it denser and build it higher" lobby are always pushing for. Whoever passed the current height laws was a visionary and knew that people needed to breathe.

Good luck to all. Enjoy your wide quiet streets in these times.

Like in Staten Island!

https://www.silive.com/coronavirus/2020/03/staten-island-reaches-highest-rate-of-confirmed-coronavirus-cases-in-city.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just found this thread. So fun. I have NEVER really understood the argument for increasing density in the name of saving the planet and global warming. Maybe at the expense of humanity as we are seeing.

Anyway, why does there seem to be an assumption in this thread that Single Family Homes are being occupied by predominately singles and empty nesters? There seem to be LOTS of families with kids of all ages in green leafy DC neighborhoods.

My family has been getting a daily walk or two over the course of this event. I must say that I am very grateful that I am walking through green neighborhoods and not concrete canyons that the "make it denser and build it higher" lobby are always pushing for. Whoever passed the current height laws was a visionary and knew that people needed to breathe.

Good luck to all. Enjoy your wide quiet streets in these times.

It’s one thing to say you don’t think the arguments hold up for XYZ reasons, but to actually not understand them means you just aren’t very bright. Par for the course unfortunately for the anxious, aging boomers who fetishize SFHs and cars

Oh thanks. That is it. You explained why density is the answer. Build away.