It appears Bolton's book undercuts Trump's defense

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, Bolton's manuscript was "leaked"? Guess what?
1. He isn't a government employees. His manuscript doesn't deserve any special protection. Unless it is classified.
2. Bolton isn't a government employee anymore and doesn't have access to classified computers. If his manuscript contains classified information then HE is a leaker for writing classified information outside of classified spaces/IT.

No matter how you slice it, this is fishy. And the smell is coming from Bolton.

You don’t understand how this works.

Anyone who has held a clearance has to submit anything they write that’s related to their job to the government for pre-pub review. This is a lifelong obligation.

Don’t write about things you clearly don’t know about.

No. I do know how it works. I have done pre-pub review on my resume. It had to be written on a classified computer. Because if it isn't written on a classified computer and there is something classified in the document (and the point of the review is to determine this), then the writer just mishandled classified information and could go to jail. How would Bolton, who is no longer a government employee, have access to a classified computer?

That’s not how it works at my agency. I have an exceptionally high clearance, though, so policies might vary. At my agency student interns even have to submit their papers for PRB review when they go back to school between summers working with us.

Yes. BEFORE they go back to school. Because once they go back to school, they don't have access to classified computers to write their resumes.

It sounds like maybe you have never done one. And I have. So...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, Bolton's manuscript was "leaked"? Guess what?
1. He isn't a government employees. His manuscript doesn't deserve any special protection. Unless it is classified.
2. Bolton isn't a government employee anymore and doesn't have access to classified computers. If his manuscript contains classified information then HE is a leaker for writing classified information outside of classified spaces/IT.

No matter how you slice it, this is fishy. And the smell is coming from Bolton.

You don’t understand how this works.

Anyone who has held a clearance has to submit anything they write that’s related to their job to the government for pre-pub review. This is a lifelong obligation.

Don’t write about things you clearly don’t know about.

No. I do know how it works. I have done pre-pub review on my resume. It had to be written on a classified computer. Because if it isn't written on a classified computer and there is something classified in the document (and the point of the review is to determine this), then the writer just mishandled classified information and could go to jail. How would Bolton, who is no longer a government employee, have access to a classified computer?

That’s not how it works at my agency. I have an exceptionally high clearance, though, so policies might vary. At my agency student interns even have to submit their papers for PRB review when they go back to school between summers working with us.

Yes. BEFORE they go back to school. Because once they go back to school, they don't have access to classified computers to write their resumes.

It sounds like maybe you have never done one. And I have. So...

No. This is after they go back.

I know what I’m talking about.

[Anonymous]

You need to just accept that policies vary by agencies. I work with the NSC everyday and have a sense for what their policies are.

[Anonymous]

Bolton's attorney seems to confirm the content to be correct.

[Anonymous]

Letter for the review:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, Bolton's manuscript was "leaked"? Guess what?
1. He isn't a government employees. His manuscript doesn't deserve any special protection. Unless it is classified.
2. Bolton isn't a government employee anymore and doesn't have access to classified computers. If his manuscript contains classified information then HE is a leaker for writing classified information outside of classified spaces/IT.

No matter how you slice it, this is fishy. And the smell is coming from Bolton.

You don’t understand how this works.

Anyone who has held a clearance has to submit anything they write that’s related to their job to the government for pre-pub review. This is a lifelong obligation.

Don’t write about things you clearly don’t know about.

No. I do know how it works. I have done pre-pub review on my resume. It had to be written on a classified computer. Because if it isn't written on a classified computer and there is something classified in the document (and the point of the review is to determine this), then the writer just mishandled classified information and could go to jail. How would Bolton, who is no longer a government employee, have access to a classified computer?

That’s not how it works at my agency. I have an exceptionally high clearance, though, so policies might vary. At my agency student interns even have to submit their papers for PRB review when they go back to school between summers working with us.

Yes. BEFORE they go back to school. Because once they go back to school, they don't have access to classified computers to write their resumes.

It sounds like maybe you have never done one. And I have. So...

No. This is after they go back.

I know what I’m talking about.

Ok. I have an idea. You have an "exceptionally high clearance", right (just like several hundred thousand other people)? How about you write a draft of your resume on your laptop right now. Then print a copy. And bring it to work tomorrow. And submit it for pre-pub review. If it is determined that your resume does in fact contain classified information, then you put classified information on your personal computer connected to the internet. That is why writing your non-pre-pubbed resume on an unclassified system is a potential leak of classified information. You're welcome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, Bolton's manuscript was "leaked"? Guess what?
1. He isn't a government employees. His manuscript doesn't deserve any special protection. Unless it is classified.
2. Bolton isn't a government employee anymore and doesn't have access to classified computers. If his manuscript contains classified information then HE is a leaker for writing classified information outside of classified spaces/IT.

No matter how you slice it, this is fishy. And the smell is coming from Bolton.

You don’t understand how this works.

Anyone who has held a clearance has to submit anything they write that’s related to their job to the government for pre-pub review. This is a lifelong obligation.

Don’t write about things you clearly don’t know about.

No. I do know how it works. I have done pre-pub review on my resume. It had to be written on a classified computer. Because if it isn't written on a classified computer and there is something classified in the document (and the point of the review is to determine this), then the writer just mishandled classified information and could go to jail. How would Bolton, who is no longer a government employee, have access to a classified computer?

That’s not how it works at my agency. I have an exceptionally high clearance, though, so policies might vary. At my agency student interns even have to submit their papers for PRB review when they go back to school between summers working with us.

Yes. BEFORE they go back to school. Because once they go back to school, they don't have access to classified computers to write their resumes.

It sounds like maybe you have never done one. And I have. So...

No. This is after they go back.

I know what I’m talking about.

Ok. I have an idea. You have an "exceptionally high clearance", right (just like several hundred thousand other people)? How about you write a draft of your resume on your laptop right now. Then print a copy. And bring it to work tomorrow. And submit it for pre-pub review. If it is determined that your resume does in fact contain classified information, then you put classified information on your personal computer connected to the internet. That is why writing your non-pre-pubbed resume on an unclassified system is a potential leak of classified information. You're welcome.

Just stop. Seriously. You might be accurately describing what you are required to do, but I am under different requirements.

You’re just making yourself sound ignorant. I know what I signed onto when I took my job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You need to just accept that policies vary by agencies. I work with the NSC everyday and have a sense for what their policies are.

So if Bolton's manuscript does contain classified information, how will that be handled?

[Anonymous]

Also, you don’t know what clearance I have and how common it is, so stop speculating, as it makes you sound ever more ignorant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, Bolton's manuscript was "leaked"? Guess what?
1. He isn't a government employees. His manuscript doesn't deserve any special protection. Unless it is classified.
2. Bolton isn't a government employee anymore and doesn't have access to classified computers. If his manuscript contains classified information then HE is a leaker for writing classified information outside of classified spaces/IT.

No matter how you slice it, this is fishy. And the smell is coming from Bolton.

You don’t understand how this works.

Anyone who has held a clearance has to submit anything they write that’s related to their job to the government for pre-pub review. This is a lifelong obligation.

Don’t write about things you clearly don’t know about.

No. I do know how it works. I have done pre-pub review on my resume. It had to be written on a classified computer. Because if it isn't written on a classified computer and there is something classified in the document (and the point of the review is to determine this), then the writer just mishandled classified information and could go to jail. How would Bolton, who is no longer a government employee, have access to a classified computer?

That’s not how it works at my agency. I have an exceptionally high clearance, though, so policies might vary. At my agency student interns even have to submit their papers for PRB review when they go back to school between summers working with us.

Yes. BEFORE they go back to school. Because once they go back to school, they don't have access to classified computers to write their resumes.

It sounds like maybe you have never done one. And I have. So...

No. This is after they go back.

I know what I’m talking about.

Ok. I have an idea. You have an "exceptionally high clearance", right (just like several hundred thousand other people)? How about you write a draft of your resume on your laptop right now. Then print a copy. And bring it to work tomorrow. And submit it for pre-pub review. If it is determined that your resume does in fact contain classified information, then you put classified information on your personal computer connected to the internet. That is why writing your non-pre-pubbed resume on an unclassified system is a potential leak of classified information. You're welcome.

Just stop. Seriously. You might be accurately describing what you are required to do, but I am under different requirements.

You’re just making yourself sound ignorant. I know what I signed onto when I took my job.

If I'm wrong, they why won't you write your resume on your computer right now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to just accept that policies vary by agencies. I work with the NSC everyday and have a sense for what their policies are.

So if Bolton's manuscript does contain classified information, how will that be handled?

He will be required to take it out. If he doesn’t he’ll be prosecuted for leaking classified information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, Bolton's manuscript was "leaked"? Guess what?
1. He isn't a government employees. His manuscript doesn't deserve any special protection. Unless it is classified.
2. Bolton isn't a government employee anymore and doesn't have access to classified computers. If his manuscript contains classified information then HE is a leaker for writing classified information outside of classified spaces/IT.

No matter how you slice it, this is fishy. And the smell is coming from Bolton.

You don’t understand how this works.

Anyone who has held a clearance has to submit anything they write that’s related to their job to the government for pre-pub review. This is a lifelong obligation.

Don’t write about things you clearly don’t know about.

No. I do know how it works. I have done pre-pub review on my resume. It had to be written on a classified computer. Because if it isn't written on a classified computer and there is something classified in the document (and the point of the review is to determine this), then the writer just mishandled classified information and could go to jail. How would Bolton, who is no longer a government employee, have access to a classified computer?

That’s not how it works at my agency. I have an exceptionally high clearance, though, so policies might vary. At my agency student interns even have to submit their papers for PRB review when they go back to school between summers working with us.

Yes. BEFORE they go back to school. Because once they go back to school, they don't have access to classified computers to write their resumes.

It sounds like maybe you have never done one. And I have. So...

No. This is after they go back.

I know what I’m talking about.

Ok. I have an idea. You have an "exceptionally high clearance", right (just like several hundred thousand other people)? How about you write a draft of your resume on your laptop right now. Then print a copy. And bring it to work tomorrow. And submit it for pre-pub review. If it is determined that your resume does in fact contain classified information, then you put classified information on your personal computer connected to the internet. That is why writing your non-pre-pubbed resume on an unclassified system is a potential leak of classified information. You're welcome.

Just stop. Seriously. You might be accurately describing what you are required to do, but I am under different requirements.

You’re just making yourself sound ignorant. I know what I signed onto when I took my job.

If I'm wrong, they why won't you write your resume on your computer right now?

Huh? What are you asking me to do? Write it and post a screenshot?

I don’t have a resume for use externally, but I know plenty of student interns and others who need to work with the PRB on a regular basis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Bolton's attorney seems to confirm the content to be correct.

Also confirms the request that ONLY the people who routinely do the classified review have eyes on the manuscript. It is more than likely the White House violated the rules and thsu Whie House Counsel and by default, McConnell, also had eyes on the manuscript.

And then we wonder why the GOP wants to rush this through. It also makes me wonder if Pelosi knew about the review date (later this week) and thus explains why the House sat on this for a couple of weeks.

Shrewd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, you don’t know what clearance I have and how common it is, so stop speculating, as it makes you sound ever more ignorant.

If it is so special, they why are you allowed to write your resume on an unclassified machine before submitting to pre-pub?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, you don’t know what clearance I have and how common it is, so stop speculating, as it makes you sound ever more ignorant.

If it is so special, they why are you allowed to write your resume on an unclassified machine before submitting to pre-pub?

They don’t. I never said they do.

I’m talking about books you’d write after leaving my agency, or papers student interns write after they go back to school.