Teenage girl and implant.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know what is with BC these days. DDs have had non stop periods for moths and docs are all like that’s ok it’s normal etc etc. But nothing like that happened back in the dark ages when I took the pill.


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Anonymous wrote:Holy crap. How does such a device pass FDA muster with that kind of "normal" side effects?


Because the side effects differ from person to person. I have massive trouble with most hormonal BC (these side effects sounded very familiar), but there are a few where it’s “not bad”. Every body reacts to these things differently.


No, OP said the doctors said these side effects are "normal" for this device. If this is normal, there is a serious flaw in the device.


The subdermal implants are produced as long thin cylinders, with the time-release coat on the outside. When they are sliced into individual units, the ends do not have those coats. It takes a few months for any erratic release from the ends to pass -- but even so, the overall side effect profile is much less than for the earlier OCPs.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:They were never meant for middle or upper class women in the highly industrialized world. It was expedited so that it could be given to poor US women and women in the developing world because someone decided the side effects were worth fewer poor babies.


Source?


TABLE B-1 Trials Undertaken in Development of Norplant

Clinical Trials in 15 Countries:
1975-1979
Phase III multinational trials in Brazil, Chile, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Finland, Jamaica (PC/ICCR)
1980-1982
Trials begin in Colombia, Ecuador, Egypt, India, Indonesia. Thailand (PC)
1982
Phase II/III studies begin in the United States
Another multinational Phase III clinical trial begins in Chile. Dominican Republic, Finland, Sweden, and the United States (PC/ICCR)
1990-1995
Phase III clinical trials of soft tubing Norplant capsules and reformulated Norplant with two rods in Chile, Dominican Republic. Egypt, Finland, Singapore, Thailand, United States
Preintroduction Studies in 30 Countries (start dates):
1984
Bangladesh, Brazil, Chile, China, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Kenya, Nepal, Nigeria
1985
Philippines, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Zambia
1988
Colombia, El Salvador, Ghana, Malaysia, Mexico, Pakistan, Peru, Senegal, South Korea, Tunisia, Venezuela, Zambia
1989
Bahamas, Rwanda, Zaire
1990
Bolivia, Madagascar
Private Sector Training in 7 Countries (Leiras Oy):
1988
Belgium, Bulgaria, former Soviet Union, France, Israel. West Germany, Taiwan
Postmarketing Surveillance in 8 Countries (WHO/HRP, PC, FHI):
1988-present
Bangladesh, Chile, China, Colombia, Egypt, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Thailand
Training Curriculum Testing:

Nigeria, Rwanda, Kenya
International Training Centers:

Dominican Republic, Egypt, Indonesia
Regional Training Center:

Kenya
>70 Acceptability Studies in 20 Countries (FHI, PC, PATH, clinics, health ministries):
1987-present
Bangladesh, Brazil, China, Colombia, Dominican Republic, Ecuador. Egypt, Haiti, Indonesia, Kenya, Mexico, Nepal, Nigeria, Peru, Philippines. Rwanda, Sri Lanka, Thailand, United States, Zambia
NOTE: FHI = Family Health International; ICCR = International Committee for Contraception Research; PATH = Program for Appropriate Technologies in Health: PC = Population Council.


I'm glad this was studied, but once again, I need a source to back up your conspiracy theory.


I'm not sure if the PP was wanting to imply that being tested outside of the USA was supposed to mean something controversial or nefarious, but this is true for almost all medications and devices. (?)
Anonymous
I’ve been having sex for over two decades and have used only condoms for bc and have never gotten an unwanted pregnancy. I don’t know why so many women put up with these side effects. If we didn’t, the drug companies would develope better products because their profits would be suffering and because men wouldn’t want to have to put up with condoms. And more men would get vasectomies. Why do women put themselves through these side effects.
Anonymous
Condoms are great. The rates of pregnancy prevention for condoms aren't as good as for hormonal contraceptives, especially certain ones.

Some people have a lot more sex than others, and that difference matters.

Some people are a lot more fertile than others, and that difference matters.

People are different.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Another vote for getting it removed. I got an IUD just to avoid what your kid is going through. Best thing I ever did, but I am an adult. Not sure if teens can get them?


They can and should! It's a great option and most of my.female cousins (my age) got them as young women, which wasn't done here in the 90s much. I didn't get one until after kids in my 30s.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’ve been having sex for over two decades and have used only condoms for bc and have never gotten an unwanted pregnancy. I don’t know why so many women put up with these side effects. If we didn’t, the drug companies would develope better products because their profits would be suffering and because men wouldn’t want to have to put up with condoms. And more men would get vasectomies. Why do women put themselves through these side effects.


I literally hate condoms. I have almost no side effects from BC. BUT I would take a decent amount of it to avoid condoms.
Anonymous
Another vote for an IUD!
Anonymous
We talked to the doctor today and the doctor asked her to wait a week before removing. She thinks the emotion is due to problems with her boyfriend. He wants to break up after a year 1/2. She agreed to wait the week and go back and talk to her again. She doesn't want the pill or the ring.

She doesn't like the IUD but she will consider it maybe. She thinks it is painful. Her dad and I are watching her to make sure it is ok. The symptoms seem to be more from breaking up which has been going on for a month plus than the implant. I definitely think it makes her more emotional.
Anonymous
Ugh that is so aggravating from the doctor. Like even if it IS normal, It is obviously not in the best interest of your daughter (or anyone it seems!).
Anonymous
I have intense anxiety and depression from any hormonal birth control that I’ve tried. It didn’t matter if it was the pill, the shot, the ring, IUD. Some were better than others but they were all bad for me. The PPs saying it affects everyone differently are right. And each contraceptive, even different brands of the same type, can affect a person differently. To suggest that no one should use the implant is silly. It’s great for many. The pill has the same side effects for some people.

Don’t ignore her symptoms. When the doctor says it’s normal, they don’t mean it’s acceptable. They just mean that the side effects aren’t outside the range of known side effects. For someone who hasn’t personally experienced theme, it might not seem like a huge deal but it can be. It might be a huge ordeal, because it’s really just trial and error to find what’s right for her. You might get lucky and find that IUDs work without terrible side effects, or you might have to try a few more. Be supportive, and it sounds like you are, because it’s frustrating and overwhelming. It’s even worse when you’re dealing with all these crazy making hormones being added to your body.
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