WaPo article on NoVa vs DC and MD job markets

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Anonymous wrote:“ In the first 10 months of 2019, Northern Virginia gained an average of 19,500 jobs from a year earlier, compared to 5,700 jobs in the District and just 200 in suburban Maryland, according to preliminary data from the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics.”

If they are including Loudon county, then they should also include HoCo in job creation. Does it? Article doesn't say.

And DC is tiny compared to MD and VA, so it's not a fair comparison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is why Maryland real estate is so comparatively cheap. MoCo and PG just can’t compete with what NoVa and DC have to offer.

Comparatively cheap? MoCo real estate inside the Beltway is way out of reach for most people, same as in Arlington. The article should compare inside the Beltway MoCo to Arlington. Arlington is a tiny very close in county, a fraction of MoCo's size.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of the article, I wonder? It's more hand wringing that MoCo didn't get Amazon but that's silly. Amazon was going to NoVa for a long time. Bezos's competition was for show. It's an opportunity for Hans to point the finger at everyone but himself. He always voted along with the rest of the council. He's voted to raise taxes, he voted along with Navarro on all her hair brained schemes. He's done nothing to promote the business climate in MoCo. Up until recently, he didn't act like that was even very important.

Hans Riemer is a political zombie. He's totally ineffective (he was basically pointing the finger at himself in the article while trying to pass as being holier-than-thou, his whole political MO), yet he still keeps getting re-elected. The guy is at-large, we should be able to vote him out next time. He also has designs on county executive, which is even scarier. Montomgery county residents need to stop shooting ourselves in the foot electing political leeches like Riemer that subsist solely by sucking the county coffer's teets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one is comparing all of VA to MoCo. Certainly not the article cited. Whatever gave anyone this wrong idea??

Nobody said it was. It is comparing NoVa with MD. Can you read?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one is comparing all of VA to MoCo. Certainly not the article cited. Whatever gave anyone this wrong idea??

Can you point out who said it was comparing all of VA to MoCo? The article itself is comparing all of MD, and even suburbs of MD, with just NoVa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Once again, comparing a tiny part of Virginia to all of MD. Comparing a huge Virginia to a tiny DC. Overall in the first quarter of 2019, VA had 2.7% economic growth. MD overall was slower, 1.9%, I think. This is comparing apples and oranges overall. MD has population over 6m, and VA over 8m nad is a huge state compared to MD. The only reason for any growth is NoVa. I am glad that it has growth, as MoCo leadership is basically doing nothing but talking. NoVa progress might eventually help MoCo. Still, comparing NoVa to all of MD is stupid.

DP. The article compared job growth in NoVa to that in “suburban ,” not all of Maryland.

Suburban Maryland is this region’s clear loser.

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, comparing a tiny part of Virginia to all of MD. Comparing a huge Virginia to a tiny DC. Overall in the first quarter of 2019, VA had 2.7% economic growth. MD overall was slower, 1.9%, I think. This is comparing apples and oranges overall. MD has population over 6m, and VA over 8m nad is a huge state compared to MD. The only reason for any growth is NoVa. I am glad that it has growth, as MoCo leadership is basically doing nothing but talking. NoVa progress might eventually help MoCo. Still, comparing NoVa to all of MD is stupid.

DP. The article compared job growth in NoVa to that in “suburban ,” not all of Maryland.

Suburban Maryland is this region’s clear loser.

Why was "suburban" MD called out but NoVa is NoVa? Does NoVa include Loudon county? What does "suburban MD" encompass exactly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why Maryland real estate is so comparatively cheap. MoCo and PG just can’t compete with what NoVa and DC have to offer.

Comparatively cheap? MoCo real estate inside the Beltway is way out of reach for most people, same as in Arlington. The article should compare inside the Beltway MoCo to Arlington. Arlington is a tiny very close in county, a fraction of MoCo's size.

We looked at both and inside beltway Bethesda is way cheaper

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, comparing a tiny part of Virginia to all of MD. Comparing a huge Virginia to a tiny DC. Overall in the first quarter of 2019, VA had 2.7% economic growth. MD overall was slower, 1.9%, I think. This is comparing apples and oranges overall. MD has population over 6m, and VA over 8m nad is a huge state compared to MD. The only reason for any growth is NoVa. I am glad that it has growth, as MoCo leadership is basically doing nothing but talking. NoVa progress might eventually help MoCo. Still, comparing NoVa to all of MD is stupid.

DP. The article compared job growth in NoVa to that in “suburban ,” not all of Maryland.

Suburban Maryland is this region’s clear loser.

Why was "suburban" MD called out but NoVa is NoVa? Does NoVa include Loudon county? What does "suburban MD" encompass exactly?

Exactly! Suburban MD? Is is Bethesda? Frederick? What the heck? The Eastern Shore?! Is Salisbury not a suburb, but Fruitland is? How do you compare suburban MD to NoVa? Plus, the article clearly states several times MD, and then in one part suburban MD. English is not even my first language!

[Anonymous]

Common sense suggests that suburban MD here is defined as the parts of Maryland that are included in the Washington metropolitan area:

Calvert County
Charles County
Frederick County
Montgomery County
Prince George's County

[Anonymous]

On the 270 spur northbound there is a visibly fading sign proclaiming the “270 Technology Corridor.” This sign is an apt metaphor for the lack of forward-thinking vision in MD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Common sense suggests that suburban MD here is defined as the parts of Maryland that are included in the Washington metropolitan area:

Calvert County
Charles County
Frederick County
Montgomery County
Prince George's County

Common sense suggests that HoCo is as close to DC as Loudoun County is, so why wouldn't HoCo be included? Is it because HoCo's has a big city (Baltimore) that's closer to it? But then why would Loudoun county be included as part of NoVa? I am not from this area originally, so I really don't understand how NoVa is defined and how suburban MD is defined.

I mapped the center of Loudoun County to DC and HoCo to DC, and the center of HoCo is a tiny bit closer to DC than Loudoun county, so again, I really don't get the demarcation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Common sense suggests that suburban MD here is defined as the parts of Maryland that are included in the Washington metropolitan area:

Calvert County
Charles County
Frederick County
Montgomery County
Prince George's County

Common sense suggests that HoCo is as close to DC as Loudoun County is, so why wouldn't HoCo be included? Is it because HoCo's has a big city (Baltimore) that's closer to it? But then why would Loudoun county be included as part of NoVa? I am not from this area originally, so I really don't understand how NoVa is defined and how suburban MD is defined.

I mapped the center of Loudoun County to DC and HoCo to DC, and the center of HoCo is a tiny bit closer to DC than Loudoun county, so again, I really don't get the demarcation.

I think fixation on which counties are included in suburban Maryland is a little bit off topic. The important thing here is that Maryland needs to do more to attract business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dems took over and this will slow here in NoVA.

Dems have been fully in control of Arlington for decades. Still not progressive control, though. Yet.

Arlington is artificially fed by the Feds. They need to be near DC. The tech corridor is out farther and they WILL move to cheaper areas if need be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Common sense suggests that suburban MD here is defined as the parts of Maryland that are included in the Washington metropolitan area:

Calvert County
Charles County
Frederick County
Montgomery County
Prince George's County

Common sense suggests that HoCo is as close to DC as Loudoun County is, so why wouldn't HoCo be included? Is it because HoCo's has a big city (Baltimore) that's closer to it? But then why would Loudoun county be included as part of NoVa? I am not from this area originally, so I really don't understand how NoVa is defined and how suburban MD is defined.

I mapped the center of Loudoun County to DC and HoCo to DC, and the center of HoCo is a tiny bit closer to DC than Loudoun county, so again, I really don't get the demarcation.

I think fixation on which counties are included in suburban Maryland is a little bit off topic. The important thing here is that Maryland needs to do more to attract business.

Not really. I'm not arguing whether NoVa has more growth or not, but the article is comparing one region to another, and I"m trying to understand what areas encompass those regions and why.