Cliff Notes summary of MCPS boundary study fight?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Watch the videos! The "experts" are not looking too confident. lol

https://www.mymcmedia.org/boundary-study-meeting-gets-heated/?fbclid=IwAR1g4D1-_tE1ZhDX5smSD0QqRaga5vZxoGXshIouMsOaQK4vqUa7M2JpQoA

? You wouldn't either if you had an angry mob heckling you.

What do people do when they feel the government is unjust? They take to the streets and show their dissatisfaction. This is the equivalent of that.

The BOE is elected to serve their consituents. If they were doing this well, would there be so much dissent among the people they serve?

Yes. Because there is a minority of haves that feel like BoE is taking stuff away from them for the unfair benefit of the undeserving have-nots.

They sure don't seem like a minority based on the turnout at these meetings, and the number of members in the Facebook groups.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Watch the videos! The "experts" are not looking too confident. lol

https://www.mymcmedia.org/boundary-study-meeting-gets-heated/?fbclid=IwAR1g4D1-_tE1ZhDX5smSD0QqRaga5vZxoGXshIouMsOaQK4vqUa7M2JpQoA

? You wouldn't either if you had an angry mob heckling you.

What do people do when they feel the government is unjust? They take to the streets and show their dissatisfaction. This is the equivalent of that.

The BOE is elected to serve their consituents. If they were doing this well, would there be so much dissent among the people they serve?

Yes. Because there is a minority of haves that feel like BoE is taking stuff away from them for the unfair benefit of the undeserving have-nots.

They sure don't seem like a minority based on the turnout at these meetings, and the number of members in the Facebook groups.

How many members are in the Facebook group--5,000? MCPS has 166,000 students, and MoCo has over 1 million residents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No one is against a boundary change based on geographic reasons. Why would you live in MoCo if you are a racist? Plenty of places to live if you only want to be with your own. What people are annoyed by is putting diversity as the number one priority - which the board did without public comment.

http://northpotomacnews.org/?p=861

Then the Board hires a company that only has done diversity realignments - not boundary studies based on geography.

Then - even though you can buy a house anywhere in the county the extreme liberals say it is segregated (although county does nothing about actually changing this at a housing policy level). So rational folks from all backgrounds are seeing this for what it is - pols in a one party state trying to get a promotion by motivating their base. Nothing more. Finally squishy evidence that having a bright kid sit next to a new immigrant helps the new immigrant at all.

Well they didn't do that, so no reason to be annoyed.

Yes the did. Read MCPS policy FAA directly from their own website:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/policy/pdf/faa.pdf

Page 7:

Analyses of options take into account the impact of various options on the
overall populations of affected schools. Options should especially strive to
create a diverse student body in each of the affected schools in alignment
with Board Policy ACD, Quality Integrated Education

Emphasis mine. That word was added at the last minute, and was not in the original draft.

There are 4 factors: demographic, geographic, stability and facility.

The document does not say diversity is especially more important than geography.

The document is saying when taking demographic into account diversity is especially important.

It never says demographic/diversity is more important that geography, stability or facility.

Well the board absolutely thinks that diversity is weighted more. Refer to board of Ed meetings from sep 13 and 24 in 2018. The intent of adding this word is to give diversity a higher priority. Jill O. who was on the board last yr spearheaded this and when one board member raised concern that adding this word would box us in to certain options, she replied that she absolutely wanted to be boxed in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watch the videos! The "experts" are not looking too confident. lol

https://www.mymcmedia.org/boundary-study-meeting-gets-heated/?fbclid=IwAR1g4D1-_tE1ZhDX5smSD0QqRaga5vZxoGXshIouMsOaQK4vqUa7M2JpQoA

? You wouldn't either if you had an angry mob heckling you.

What do people do when they feel the government is unjust? They take to the streets and show their dissatisfaction. This is the equivalent of that.

The BOE is elected to serve their consituents. If they were doing this well, would there be so much dissent among the people they serve?

Yes. Because there is a minority of haves that feel like BoE is taking stuff away from them for the unfair benefit of the undeserving have-nots.

They sure don't seem like a minority based on the turnout at these meetings, and the number of members in the Facebook groups.

They showed up in large numbers at one meeting (Julius West MS) so far. And there are over 165,000 students in MCPS.

(Not to mention that I personally know some boundary-analysis supporters who are on that Facebook group because they want to know what it's up to.)

[Anonymous]

"Yes. Because there is a minority of haves that feel like BoE is taking stuff away from them for the unfair benefit of the undeserving have-nots.

They sure don't seem like a minority based on the turnout at these meetings, and the number of members in the Facebook groups.

They showed up in large numbers at one meeting (Julius West MS) so far. And there are over 165,000 students in MCPS."


It is only a minority but it's not a 20%or less minority. It could be 40%.

Some of the most liberal people I know will go on and on about how they know it has to be done but still claim they are going to lose $50k.

I explained to one neighbor, who is still complaining about how we got moved in the RM#5 redistricting, that being moved likely locked us into RM.

So now we are unlikely to be moved in either this or from any possible move related to Crown (if it's ever built).

They were so relieved that there was less chance we would end up at Gaithersburg HS, it was hard to believe.

[Anonymous]

Because attending GHS is a date worse than ... ???

[Anonymous]

Fate, not date

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because attending GHS is a fate worse than ... ???

PROPERTY VALUES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is against a boundary change based on geographic reasons. Why would you live in MoCo if you are a racist? Plenty of places to live if you only want to be with your own. What people are annoyed by is putting diversity as the number one priority - which the board did without public comment.

http://northpotomacnews.org/?p=861

Then the Board hires a company that only has done diversity realignments - not boundary studies based on geography.

Then - even though you can buy a house anywhere in the county the extreme liberals say it is segregated (although county does nothing about actually changing this at a housing policy level). So rational folks from all backgrounds are seeing this for what it is - pols in a one party state trying to get a promotion by motivating their base. Nothing more. Finally squishy evidence that having a bright kid sit next to a new immigrant helps the new immigrant at all.

Well they didn't do that, so no reason to be annoyed.

Yes the did. Read MCPS policy FAA directly from their own website:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/policy/pdf/faa.pdf

Page 7:

Analyses of options take into account the impact of various options on the
overall populations of affected schools. Options should especially strive to
create a diverse student body in each of the affected schools in alignment
with Board Policy ACD, Quality Integrated Education

Emphasis mine. That word was added at the last minute, and was not in the original draft.

There are 4 factors: demographic, geographic, stability and facility.

The document does not say diversity is especially more important than geography.

The document is saying when taking demographic into account diversity is especially important.

It never says demographic/diversity is more important that geography, stability or facility.

Well the board absolutely thinks that diversity is weighted more. Refer to board of Ed meetings from sep 13 and 24 in 2018. The intent of adding this word is to give diversity a higher priority. Jill O. who was on the board last yr spearheaded this and when one board member raised concern that adding this word would box us in to certain options, she replied that she absolutely wanted to be boxed in.

But obviously they are NOT moving kids to an overcrowded school for diversity. Even though your ears interpret what as said in a biased way... in practice the #1 priority is ... is there room (facility), the #2 is geography and #3 is diversity. Also... I can't think of a time that "stability" was not achieved... So move stability to #1, move the rest down 1 and you literally have diversity as #4. When they say it is essential, they can't allow some rube come in and cut boundaries that are segregated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because attending GHS is a date worse than ... ???

Says the person whose kids go to Churchill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is against a boundary change based on geographic reasons. Why would you live in MoCo if you are a racist? Plenty of places to live if you only want to be with your own. What people are annoyed by is putting diversity as the number one priority - which the board did without public comment.

http://northpotomacnews.org/?p=861

Then the Board hires a company that only has done diversity realignments - not boundary studies based on geography.

Then - even though you can buy a house anywhere in the county the extreme liberals say it is segregated (although county does nothing about actually changing this at a housing policy level). So rational folks from all backgrounds are seeing this for what it is - pols in a one party state trying to get a promotion by motivating their base. Nothing more. Finally squishy evidence that having a bright kid sit next to a new immigrant helps the new immigrant at all.

Well they didn't do that, so no reason to be annoyed.

Yes the did. Read MCPS policy FAA directly from their own website:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/policy/pdf/faa.pdf

Page 7:

Analyses of options take into account the impact of various options on the
overall populations of affected schools. Options should especially strive to
create a diverse student body in each of the affected schools in alignment
with Board Policy ACD, Quality Integrated Education

Emphasis mine. That word was added at the last minute, and was not in the original draft.

There are 4 factors: demographic, geographic, stability and facility.

The document does not say diversity is especially more important than geography.

The document is saying when taking demographic into account diversity is especially important.

It never says demographic/diversity is more important that geography, stability or facility.

Well the board absolutely thinks that diversity is weighted more. Refer to board of Ed meetings from sep 13 and 24 in 2018. The intent of adding this word is to give diversity a higher priority. Jill O. who was on the board last yr spearheaded this and when one board member raised concern that adding this word would box us in to certain options, she replied that she absolutely wanted to be boxed in.

But obviously they are NOT moving kids to an overcrowded school for diversity. Even though your ears interpret what as said in a biased way... in practice the #1 priority is ... is there room (facility), the #2 is geography and #3 is diversity. Also... I can't think of a time that "stability" was not achieved... So move stability to #1, move the rest down 1 and you literally have diversity as #4. When they say it is essential, they can't allow some rube come in and cut boundaries that are segregated.

Although geography may play some role in parts of the county, it doesn't seem to in the DCC. Take Blair for example, which is the largest and most diverse high-school in the county, it serves a completely different area than where it's located. People who live next to it are assigned to Northwood and the reality is there aren't a lot of other options. There aren't any high-schools inside the beltway in the earn half of the county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nothing has been proposed yet. Racist parents in fear that their kid might have a minority kid(read brown kid) of any background started lashing out as if browness is contagious. They are not opposed to only busing their white kids, they are opposed to brownish kids coming to their white school. For example, Westland parents are going nuts thinking that more brown kids will be added to their underused school. They are getting ready to cut off their kids from their wills if they take less than natural platinum blonde date to prom or homecoming.

What now? I'm going to need to see some evidence that this is not just the fever dream of a not-very-creative troll who is unaware of . . . well, basically anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Although geography may play some role in parts of the county, it doesn't seem to in the DCC. Take Blair for example, which is the largest and most diverse high-school in the county, it serves a completely different area than where it's located. People who live next to it are assigned to Northwood and the reality is there aren't a lot of other options. There aren't any high-schools inside the beltway in the earn half of the county.

That's because Blair HS moved, but the boundaries didn't change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS has had recent significant growth, while use of facilities is uneven. Some schools are overcrowded and some underutilized. The district hired a consultant to review all current boundaries with an eye to how they affect overcrowding, diversity, and students’ proximity to their schools. The consultants will not recommend any boundary changes and the county will not make any boundary changes during this initial process.

Parents on DCUM and Facebook groups have spread the rumor that children will be bussed far from home in order to balance out school demographics, and that their home values will suffer as a result. MCPS has specifically responded that they are only looking at schools and clusters adjacent to one another and have no intention of bussing students across the county.

This is it in a nutshell. Facebook and listserves such as this one have also contributed to hysteria and fanned latent racism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Although geography may play some role in parts of the county, it doesn't seem to in the DCC. Take Blair for example, which is the largest and most diverse high-school in the county, it serves a completely different area than where it's located. People who live next to it are assigned to Northwood and the reality is there aren't a lot of other options. There aren't any high-schools inside the beltway in the earn half of the county.

That's because Blair HS moved, but the boundaries didn't change.

And really because a few years after Blair moved, Northwood HS reopened 10 blocks away from Blair's new site.