Will MU make it past this spring?

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Anonymous wrote:Neither this year nor last year has had an even remotely competitive team, so I don't think it matters much. The 06 team needs to be rebuilt, and the youngers need to be more appropriately placed on teams their own age. Which it seems like MU will be able to do.

They definitely need help, but I wouldn't agree that there isn't any talent there. There just isn't enough, which makes complete sense when there's only a core of 6-8 full time 2006s on an 11 side team.

I didn't say there wasn't any talent. I believe there are some players that belong in the DA - at their own age so they can more properly develop. And they need more 06s. The absence of age appropriate players has been hard on that team.

Sure. And there are several 2006s that "belong in the DA too." It just takes more than several at age to be competitive.

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Yeah, they need a full team of 11 + subs. You are absolutely right.

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And we all know that the players have to be at that level of ability to compete. That's a given.

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Anonymous wrote:I disagree. MU needs to hold ID sessions. They need to start holding them soon and they need to have potential players attend their ID sessions.

If their plan for next year is to have 07 and 08 teams next year they need to let people know that soon.

If they plan not to exist next year then maybe silence is the best strategy.

Parents and players have been told they will have 07 and 08 teams next year. Not sure if you will see open ID sessions or not. If you are interested, there is a form on their website to email coaches. As a PP mentioned, outside players have and will attend training sessions for ID purposes. You will learn more about the club from these training sessions vs a cattle call tryout.

True, but parents were told there would be an 07 team last year. And then there was not.... So having partner clubs and a player pool doesn't mean a) they want to play DA (many GF players don't want to give up their other sports/make the time commitment) or b) SHOULD play DA. Last year supposedly there just weren't enough good players to build a team who came out.... You have to cast a wider net to pick up the quality players from other area clubs (e.g. SYC, SYA, CYA, Herndon, etc.) whose families maybe do want to make those sacrifices.

correct, we were told there would be an 07 team and wasn't. Then the 06 team barely hung on and is using 08-06 players and getting pummeled every weekend. We watched several games this season and the talent is not there nor do i see them being able to recruit it.

The 2006 team is actually playing better with more underage players this year than they did last year. Level of play has slightly increased and margins have been a little smaller. Go figure.

Is this due to talent or coaching changes?

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The 06 team has 52 goals against and hasn't scored a single goal. It's not their fault, but the team needs to be overhauled. CDA faced a similar problem the 1st two months, when they failed to have a U19 team, and they are a strong club. They had to move up the 03s to cover and so on up the line. Those are teams that have historically performed rather well, have definite talent, and it was only an age group up, not 2 or more. Every team got boat raced repeatedly until enough u19s joined to field a true U19 team. Then every team returned to what it had been before. I don't know for sure why it happened, but given that Ohio has high school in the fall, and 02s and up often seem to be more attached to high school, I suspect that's at least part of the story.

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Anonymous wrote:The 06 team has 52 goals against and hasn't scored a single goal. It's not their fault, but the team needs to be overhauled. CDA faced a similar problem the 1st two months, when they failed to have a U19 team, and they are a strong club. They had to move up the 03s to cover and so on up the line. Those are teams that have historically performed rather well, have definite talent, and it was only an age group up, not 2 or more. Every team got boat raced repeatedly until enough u19s joined to field a true U19 team. Then every team returned to what it had been before. I don't know for sure why it happened, but given that Ohio has high school in the fall, and 02s and up often seem to be more attached to high school, I suspect that's at least part of the story.

Overhauled? They only have something like 6 or 7 full time 2006 players. Check the USSDA posted roster and note the FT column. That’s their problem.

An overhaul has nothing to do with it. They need to fill the team with 8-10 more qualified 2006 players.

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Anonymous wrote:The 06 team has 52 goals against and hasn't scored a single goal. It's not their fault, but the team needs to be overhauled. CDA faced a similar problem the 1st two months, when they failed to have a U19 team, and they are a strong club. They had to move up the 03s to cover and so on up the line. Those are teams that have historically performed rather well, have definite talent, and it was only an age group up, not 2 or more. Every team got boat raced repeatedly until enough u19s joined to field a true U19 team. Then every team returned to what it had been before. I don't know for sure why it happened, but given that Ohio has high school in the fall, and 02s and up often seem to be more attached to high school, I suspect that's at least part of the story.

Overhauled? They only have something like 6 or 7 full time 2006 players. Check the USSDA posted roster and note the FT column. That’s their problem.

An overhaul has nothing to do with it. They need to fill the team with 8-10 more qualified 2006 players.

Whatever average you like. Yes, they need several qualified 200f players. I think what I meant was clear.

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^whatever verbage

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Anonymous wrote:The 06 team has 52 goals against and hasn't scored a single goal. It's not their fault, but the team needs to be overhauled. CDA faced a similar problem the 1st two months, when they failed to have a U19 team, and they are a strong club. They had to move up the 03s to cover and so on up the line. Those are teams that have historically performed rather well, have definite talent, and it was only an age group up, not 2 or more. Every team got boat raced repeatedly until enough u19s joined to field a true U19 team. Then every team returned to what it had been before. I don't know for sure why it happened, but given that Ohio has high school in the fall, and 02s and up often seem to be more attached to high school, I suspect that's at least part of the story.

Overhauled? They only have something like 6 or 7 full time 2006 players. Check the USSDA posted roster and note the FT column. That’s their problem.

An overhaul has nothing to do with it. They need to fill the team with 8-10 more qualified 2006 players.

Whatever average you like. Yes, they need several qualified 200f players. I think what I meant was clear.

I don’t think you understand the meaning of the word “overhaul” to be frank. They need to add qualified 2006 players. You should have just said that and there is no argument. The entire original post including goal differential was completely unnecessary.

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How did this team improve over last year? People talking its a disaster. Makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:How did this team improve over last year? People talking its a disaster. Makes no sense.

Last year was worse.

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Anonymous wrote:How did this team improve over last year? People talking its a disaster. Makes no sense.

Last year was worse.

This year they are down by 52 goals, and there are many more games to go. Not sure it matters if it's better since it's pretty bad. What was it like by this time last year.

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Anonymous wrote:How did this team improve over last year? People talking its a disaster. Makes no sense.

Last year was worse.

This year they are down by 52 goals, and there are many more games to go. Not sure it matters if it's better since it's pretty bad. What was it like by this time last year.

LOL they are playing with half a team of at age FT players, whereas they had at least 11 FT 2006s last year. Everyone agrees they need to add qualified 2006 players to be competitive. That they are on par if not better than last year is quite an accomplishment given that HUGE handicap.

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Last year's "06" group also featured several 07 and 08 players. By this time last year they had 51 goals against and 3 for. Both years are uncompetitive.

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Anonymous wrote:Last year's "06" group also featured several 07 and 08 players. By this time last year they had 51 goals against and 3 for. Both years are uncompetitive.

There were double the 2006s on the team last year vs this year. Agree that the result is about the same between the two, but would argue that it’s much harder to do with half the at age full time players. Impartial readers can make their own judgments.

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Anonymous wrote:Last year's "06" group also featured several 07 and 08 players. By this time last year they had 51 goals against and 3 for. Both years are uncompetitive.

There were double the 2006s on the team last year vs this year. Agree that the result is about the same between the two, but would argue that it’s much harder to do with half the at age full time players. Impartial readers can make their own judgments.

The important thing for that team is to be able to fill it with qualified 06s and to take the younger talent and place them on 07 and 08 teams. I wish them the best and know they are trying hard. Good for them to keep working at it week after week. It takes determination.