MCPS Boundary Study Meeting Tonight (12/11) at Julius West @ 7pm

[Anonymous]

Ok, fair enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And apparently it's an ugly, ugly meeting.

For shame.

? why? what happened?

Parents behaving badly. Shouting, heckling, interrupting, booing, preventing the presenters from presenting.

[Anonymous]

just saw some videos from the meeting. what a shitshoe

[Anonymous]

Here's the problem. MCPS surrounds itself internally with yes mean and women. Big surprise - parents are against busing. Except I am pretty sure that MCPS is surprised at the level of disapproval. Its incredibly insular and then they are shocked when they interact with anyone outside of MCPS. MCPS REALLY needs to start hiring people internally who have critical thinking capabilities not butt kissing skills so they can craft policies and initiatives much better.

It is VERY important for parents to come out at each and every one of these meetings and make their voices heard. If they don't MCPS will simply pat themselves on the back telling themselves that everyone agrees with them even if they do not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:just saw some videos from the meeting. what a shitshoe

where is the video?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the problem. MCPS surrounds itself internally with yes mean and women. Big surprise - parents are against busing. Except I am pretty sure that MCPS is surprised at the level of disapproval. Its incredibly insular and then they are shocked when they interact with anyone outside of MCPS. MCPS REALLY needs to start hiring people internally who have critical thinking capabilities not butt kissing skills so they can craft policies and initiatives much better.

It is VERY important for parents to come out at each and every one of these meetings and make their voices heard. If they don't MCPS will simply pat themselves on the back telling themselves that everyone agrees with them even if they do not.

Yup. I've got one on my calendar. I support the boundary analysis, and I want MCPS and parents to hear my voice.

Also, you know what? It's possible to make your voice heard appropriately, even if you disagree with the boundary analysis. Parents tonight chose not to do that, though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At the meeting tonight, there's a poster on Students Not Assigned To Closest School -

ES: 37% of students in MCPS do not attend their closest school
MS: 45% of students in MCPS do not attend their closest school
HS: 38% of students in MCPS do not attend their closest school

That's CURRENTLY in MCPS.

Those are the boundaries that people want to maintain because they want "neighborhood schools."

Those are students already assigned to schools based on diversity. Parents want to maintain the diversity that they already have. Good to hear parents support
diverse schools.

Huh. Because one of the things I have never, ever, not once, heard even ONE person say is, "I oppose the boundary analysis because I support school diversity."

Then you haven't been listening.

Nope. I've been listening. Because I don't want long bus rides. Because I want to stay in my community. Because I don't want my kids to go to bad schools. Because I want neighborhood schools. Because the traffic is bad. Because it will lower my property value. Because I chose to live where I live. Because diversity is dumb. Because it's a housing-policy problem, not a school problem. Because schools should focus on education. Because there isn't segregation. Because I worked hard to get where I am. Because the poor you will always have with you so why bother. Because the Board of Education is evil. Because [bigotry]. All of those - yes.

Because I support school diversity - no.

Not listening. You hear what you want to hear. That's your choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the meeting tonight, there's a poster on Students Not Assigned To Closest School -

ES: 37% of students in MCPS do not attend their closest school
MS: 45% of students in MCPS do not attend their closest school
HS: 38% of students in MCPS do not attend their closest school

That's CURRENTLY in MCPS.

Those are the boundaries that people want to maintain because they want "neighborhood schools."

Those are students already assigned to schools based on diversity. Parents want to maintain the diversity that they already have. Good to hear parents support
diverse schools.

Huh. Because one of the things I have never, ever, not once, heard even ONE person say is, "I oppose the boundary analysis because I support school diversity."

Then you haven't been listening.

Nope. I've been listening. Because I don't want long bus rides. Because I want to stay in my community. Because I don't want my kids to go to bad schools. Because I want neighborhood schools. Because the traffic is bad. Because it will lower my property value. Because I chose to live where I live. Because diversity is dumb. Because it's a housing-policy problem, not a school problem. Because schools should focus on education. Because there isn't segregation. Because I worked hard to get where I am. Because the poor you will always have with you so why bother. Because the Board of Education is evil. Because [bigotry]. All of those - yes.

Because I support school diversity - no.

Not listening. You hear what you want to hear. That's your choice.

Please explain how opposition to the boundary analysis supports school diversity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And apparently it's an ugly, ugly meeting.

For shame.

? why? what happened?

Parents behaving badly. Shouting, heckling, interrupting, booing, preventing the presenters from presenting.

that is a shame, and really bad role models for the kids there. I wonder what they would say if their kids heckled their teachers in class because they didn't like what they were hearing? I know I'd be ashamed of my kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the problem. MCPS surrounds itself internally with yes mean and women. Big surprise - parents are against busing. Except I am pretty sure that MCPS is surprised at the level of disapproval. Its incredibly insular and then they are shocked when they interact with anyone outside of MCPS. MCPS REALLY needs to start hiring people internally who have critical thinking capabilities not butt kissing skills so they can craft policies and initiatives much better.

It is VERY important for parents to come out at each and every one of these meetings and make their voices heard. If they don't MCPS will simply pat themselves on the back telling themselves that everyone agrees with them even if they do not.

+1 million

This came up with the multiple sex assault cases (Rockville, Damascus, RM). Smith wouldn't even make himself available for parents at meetings. For one meeting, he just left saying he was busy or had another commitment, etc.

I do hope parents show up to these meetings to make their voices heard. MCPS leadership, the BOE and Jack Smith have a history of avoiding answering parent questions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the meeting tonight, there's a poster on Students Not Assigned To Closest School -

ES: 37% of students in MCPS do not attend their closest school
MS: 45% of students in MCPS do not attend their closest school
HS: 38% of students in MCPS do not attend their closest school

That's CURRENTLY in MCPS.

Those are the boundaries that people want to maintain because they want "neighborhood schools."

Is this actual data? Anyone know?

Define "actual data."

I know there’s a nationwide issue with what facts are, but really?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And apparently it's an ugly, ugly meeting.

For shame.

? why? what happened?

Parents behaving badly. Shouting, heckling, interrupting, booing, preventing the presenters from presenting.

that is a shame, and really bad role models for the kids there. I wonder what they would say if their kids heckled their teachers in class because they didn't like what they were hearing? I know I'd be ashamed of my kids.

And on top of it all, the boe takes notice and gives the shaft to the rudest of the group. Just look at Clarksburg. BOE even sent a follow up email saying their behavior was uncalled for. And they got redistricted HARD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Probably true. But that likely includes special ed and magnet students so my guesssis that is inflated.

yes, it does. consultant at the meeting confirmed that the data is not adjusted for special programs (immersion/magnet/spec ed), therefore it is actually meaningless and is there for optics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can certainly empathize. As a parent, I often feel that MCPS is not listening. The school board has an agenda and they want to push it through at any cost.

No, the school board doesn't have an agenda. They do not have a backbone and approve everything MCPS Staff (Dr Zuckerman) puts before them. If any of the Board members dare ask/question the MCPS staff, they go into MCPS mode (talk for at least 20 minutes, do not actually answer the question, and the person asking generally gives up).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably true. But that likely includes special ed and magnet students so my guesssis that is inflated.

yes, it does. consultant at the meeting confirmed that the data is not adjusted for special programs (immersion/magnet/spec ed), therefore it is actually meaningless and is there for optics.

Nope. It said right there on the poster that it does not include those students.