What did Donald J. Trump Do to Deserve a Second Term?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Top reason people voted for Trump in 2016: HRC. If there is a better candidate in 2020 I will vote for them.

No you won't. You don't vote for "better" candidates. You voted for Trump.

DP: I did not vote for Trump or Hillary ........ but if someone had held a gun to my head and said that I had to vote for one of them, I'd have voted for Trump.

Hillary was the most odious nominee that the Democrats could have nominated.

Let me guess: You also find Warren odious? And probably Harris and Gillenbrand before they dropped out?

What could possibly be your problem with them?

Love Gillenbrand and tulsi

Hated the senator from India.

[Anonymous]

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The fact that you start off giving a president — of any party — credit for the economy just shows that you’re an idiot.

One of the great enduring stupidities of the American presidential cult is the belief, rooted in invincible ignorance, that the state of the U.S. economy at any given moment is a reflection of the intelligence and wisdom of the chief executive of the federal government and a result of the excellence or insufficiency of his administration. “Sure, Bill Clinton may have been an intern-diddling hillbilly and maybe even a violent rapist, but, man, my IRA kicked ass in the 1990s!”

DP. I have posted this so many times on different threads. As if Trump can take credit for all those things and they aren't the result of so many factors over so many years.

And the talk about the deregulation....as if that is good. Oh yay! Industry can pollute our water more easily. How awesome.

And so many things on that list that would have happened with or without Trump due to things and policies and people already in place before his tenure.

The idiocy of the average American voter would be laughable if it weren't so damaging.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Top reason people voted for Trump in 2016: HRC. If there is a better candidate in 2020 I will vote for them.

No you won't. You don't vote for "better" candidates. You voted for Trump.

DP: I did not vote for Trump or Hillary ........ but if someone had held a gun to my head and said that I had to vote for one of them, I'd have voted for Trump.

Hillary was the most odious nominee that the Democrats could have nominated.

Let me guess: You also find Warren odious? And probably Harris and Gillenbrand before they dropped out?

What could possibly be your problem with them?

Harris was Hillary 2.0.

Gillenbrand was okay. I like Klobuchar and Gabbard. I don't care for Warren because of the policies she is advocating.

It has nothing to do with gender.

[Anonymous]

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The fact that you start off giving a president — of any party — credit for the economy just shows that you’re an idiot.

One of the great enduring stupidities of the American presidential cult is the belief, rooted in invincible ignorance, that the state of the U.S. economy at any given moment is a reflection of the intelligence and wisdom of the chief executive of the federal government and a result of the excellence or insufficiency of his administration. “Sure, Bill Clinton may have been an intern-diddling hillbilly and maybe even a violent rapist, but, man, my IRA kicked ass in the 1990s!”

DP. I have posted this so many times on different threads. As if Trump can take credit for all those things and they aren't the result of so many factors over so many years.

And the talk about the deregulation....as if that is good. Oh yay! Industry can pollute our water more easily. How awesome.

And so many things on that list that would have happened with or without Trump due to things and policies and people already in place before his tenure.

The idiocy of the average American voter would be laughable if it weren't so damaging.

Democrats view Republicans as idiots ........ and Republicans feel the same way about Democrats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He probably deserves a 3rd term with all the obstruction by the Democrats the first 4 years

Weirdo. Just weird. Where are you from?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Since you asked....

Economic Growth
4.2 percent growth in the second quarter of 2018.
For the first time in more than a decade, growth is projected to exceed 3 percent over the calendar year.

Jobs
4 million new jobs have been created since the election, and more than 3.5 million since Trump took office.
More Americans are employed now than ever before in our history.
Jobless claims at lowest level in nearly five decades.
The economy has achieved the longest positive job-growth streak on record.
Job openings are at an all-time high and outnumber job seekers for the first time on record.
Unemployment claims at 50 year low
African-American, Hispanic, and Asian-American unemployment rates have all recently reached record lows.
African-American unemployment hit a record low of 5.9 percent in May 2018.
Hispanic unemployment at 4.5 percent.
Asian-American unemployment at record low of 2 percent.
Women’s unemployment recently at lowest rate in nearly 65 years.
Female unemployment dropped to 3.6 percent in May 2018, the lowest since October 1953.
Youth unemployment recently reached its lowest level in more than 50 years.
July 2018’s youth unemployment rate of 9.2 percent was the lowest since July 1966.
Veterans’ unemployment recently hit its lowest level in nearly two decades.
July 2018’s veterans’ unemployment rate of 3.0 percent matched the lowest rate since May 2001.
Unemployment rate for Americans without a high school diploma recently reached a record low.
Rate for disabled Americans recently hit a record low.
Blue-collar jobs recently grew at the fastest rate in more than three decades.
Poll found that 85 percent of blue-collar workers believe their lives are headed “in the right direction.”
68 percent reported receiving a pay increase in the past year.
Last year, job satisfaction among American workers hit its highest level since 2005.
Nearly two-thirds of Americans rate now as a good time to find a quality job.
Optimism about the availability of good jobs has grown by 25 percent.
Added more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since the election.
Manufacturing employment is growing at its fastest pace in more than two decades.
100,000 new jobs supporting the production & transport of oil & natural gas.

American Income
Median household income rose to $61,372 in 2017, a post-recession high.
Wages up in August by their fastest rate since June 2009.
Paychecks rose by 3.3 percent between 2016 and 2017, the most in a decade.
Council of Economic Advisers found that real wage compensation has grown by 1.4 percent over the past year.
Some 3.9 million Americans off food stamps since the election.
Median income for Hispanic-Americans rose by 3.7 percent and surpassed $50,000 for the first time ever in history.
Home-ownership among Hispanics is at the highest rate in nearly a decade.
Poverty rates for African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans have reached their lowest levels ever recorded.

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The fact that you start off giving a president — of any party — credit for the economy just shows that you’re an idiot.

One of the great enduring stupidities of the American presidential cult is the belief, rooted in invincible ignorance, that the state of the U.S. economy at any given moment is a reflection of the intelligence and wisdom of the chief executive of the federal government and a result of the excellence or insufficiency of his administration. “Sure, Bill Clinton may have been an intern-diddling hillbilly and maybe even a violent rapist, but, man, my IRA kicked ass in the 1990s!”

The reference to your IRA is a reference to the stock market. I would agree that president's have little control over the stock market.
But, the economy? Of course they do. It has been Trump's business friendly policies that have had an impact - cutting taxes, and especially rolling back regulations that have had a stranglehold on businesses.

NOPE. Not that either.

Trump has done almost nothing of substance on the economy, and what his administration has done — a bit of excellent regulatory reform — is unlikely to affect growth dramatically in the short term. Regulatory reform is a good investment, but one with a long timeline for payoff. When you hear someone crediting a president with an economic boom or strong wage growth, ask them in some detail about the actual mechanism they believe to be at work, some plausible chain of causality. You’ll rarely get a satisfying answer.

Regulatory reform is a good investment, but one with a long timeline for payoff.

Presidents are one small piece of the public-policy picture — and public policy as a whole is only a small part of what shapes and moves a complex modern economy. We tend toward a destructively immature and ahistorical view: The regulatory reforms that made the Internet boom of the Clinton years began decades before; the confluence of terrible policies that created the subprime meltdown and financial crisis of 2008–09 began in the 1930s, with housing and banking reforms and regulatory development occurring under presidents and


https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/11/presidents-do-not-control-economies-or-gdp/

[Anonymous]

When the dust settles and the public gets over your revenge gossiping salacious leds, you'll realize you lived during the greatest period of economic growth and tried to end it just before the low unemployment levels require better wages.

Like - how do some of you get dressed in the morning with this low level of intellect?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Washington Examiner? LOL!

Better than WashPo!

Seriously: read ALL the sources and especially the ones you disagree with. How else do you expect to know how other people think. Echo chambers aren't edifying, they're numbing.

Well said. And these are the people who watch nothing but CNN/MSNBC and only read the WaPo and NYT. They are so consumed in their echo chambers that they can’t possibly accept news from another source.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When the dust settles and the public gets over your revenge gossiping salacious leds, you'll realize you lived during the greatest period of economic growth and tried to end it just before the low unemployment levels require better wages.

Like - how do some of you get dressed in the morning with this low level of intellect?

“ revenge gossiping salacious leds” What are you trying to say? No one here is gossiping. Are you sure you speak English regularly? Bot? Troll?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Washington Examiner? LOL!

Better than WashPo!

Seriously: read ALL the sources and especially the ones you disagree with. How else do you expect to know how other people think. Echo chambers aren't edifying, they're numbing.

Well said. And these are the people who watch nothing but CNN/MSNBC and only read the WaPo and NYT. They are so consumed in their echo chambers that they can’t possibly accept news from another source.

Nope. I’m quoting from that liberal rag, the National Review. I read WSJ, Economist, WAPO, and NYT. Don’t really know watch TV. But probably would not watch the Trump propaganda channel, Fox.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meh. Yawn.

No way to refute what the pro-Trump poster said, eh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hear the wages in Saudi Arabia are much higher than in the U.S. May be the poster of the long list would like to live and work in Saudi Arabia.

The "long-list" poster was responding to the question about what Trump has done to deserve a second term. The fact of the matter is that the list is long, and your answer is to tell him maybe he should live in Saudi Arabia? Dang but you liberals can be nasty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The fact that you start off giving a president — of any party — credit for the economy just shows that you’re an idiot.

One of the great enduring stupidities of the American presidential cult is the belief, rooted in invincible ignorance, that the state of the U.S. economy at any given moment is a reflection of the intelligence and wisdom of the chief executive of the federal government and a result of the excellence or insufficiency of his administration. “Sure, Bill Clinton may have been an intern-diddling hillbilly and maybe even a violent rapist, but, man, my IRA kicked ass in the 1990s!”

DP. I have posted this so many times on different threads. As if Trump can take credit for all those things and they aren't the result of so many factors over so many years.

And the talk about the deregulation....as if that is good. Oh yay! Industry can pollute our water more easily. How awesome.

And so many things on that list that would have happened with or without Trump due to things and policies and people already in place before his tenure.

The idiocy of the average American voter would be laughable if it weren't so damaging.

Democrats view Republicans as idiots ........ and Republicans feel the same way about Democrats.

Perhaps. But I would submit that most Democrats are at least well-meaning people who care about their fellow persons, who want to improve education and health care and provide access to these things to as many Americans as possible, end poverty, promote a clean and healthy environment, promote equality and tolerance.

Republicans idiots want to protect their own pocketbooks and worry only about themselves. They talk about family values and Christianity, but they are total hypocrites who don't practice anything they preach.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. Yawn.

No way to refute what the pro-Trump poster said, eh?

People are refuting it. Just because some of those things have happened now does not mean Trump is responsible for those things. In fact, I would say some of the good things happen in spite of Trump, because there are workers in place from before his time that carry out policies that precede him. And, as others have pointed out, the state of the economy is not solely due to a president or his actions, but to many factors, most of which took place before he was in office or just have nothing to do with him at all. And there are things on that list that many of us don't view as positives that would recommend him.

Big list does not equal compelling arguments.

[Anonymous]

What has Trump done to deserve a second term?

He has ...
Given away a us military base to the Russians
Proven the Kurds can't trust us
Praised white supremacists
Overturned military convictions for war crimes
Said little about a Saudi gunning down soldiers on a base
Earned lots of money by golfing at his resorts
Provides entertainment by lying on a daily basis
Keeping kids in cages and separating families
Is currently trying to make antisemitism happen, after failing to invite enough hate against black people.and hispanics