"The Democrat Party"

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised by the posts here. It seems like an obvious slur to me. In fact, almost any time you replace a before-the-noun adjective with its corresponding noun form, it sounds worse.

Compare: “my Swedish neighbor”

with: “my Swede neighbor”

+1. Now try it with “Jewish” and “Jew.”

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Anonymous wrote:Agree with Jeff, but this phrasing goes way, way back further than today’s Republicans.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)

Thanks for posting - I was about to cite the origins. Gorsuch used the epithet in his hearing to refer to a fellow judge. Anyone with an open mind about his nomination probably closed it after that signaling to the base.

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Anonymous wrote:I automatically think anyone who uses that term is dumb/petty and discount whatever they are saying.

Agreed. Using the terms means someone is probably pretty ignorant, so the rest of their comments aren’t worth very much either.

Instead of ignorant, more like conniving.

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jsteele wrote:The main goal of today's Republicans is not to create public policy, but to "own the libs". Distorting the name of our party may make them sound like toothless illiterates, but it gets our goat (or so they believe). That's a fair exchange as far as they are concerned.

I have never understood why they think this is insulting. It's mostly puzzling and little bit dumb. I don't know any Democrat who feels at all bothered or insulted by it.

now you know one. it bothers me.

Really? Why does it bother you?

Imagine we are 13 years old, and your name is Susan. Except every day I say "Hi Suzanne!" when I see you, then look at my friends and laugh. When you say, "That's not my name," I say, "Oh, but Suzanne is such a pretty name" then my friends and I laugh some more.

I believe the kids call this a "microaggression" - it's basically just irritating and dumb. But moreover anyone who says it is outed as being some kind of moron Trump supporter, so at least there's that.

I can totally imagine my 12 year old getting upset by something like this. But as one of the adults in the house, I offer comfort and empathy and explain to her why she should let little things annoy her.

Purposefully refusing to call someone by their correct name is not a "little thing." When a 12 y.o. does it, it is bullying.

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jsteele wrote:The main goal of today's Republicans is not to create public policy, but to "own the libs". Distorting the name of our party may make them sound like toothless illiterates, but it gets our goat (or so they believe). That's a fair exchange as far as they are concerned.

I have never understood why they think this is insulting. It's mostly puzzling and little bit dumb. I don't know any Democrat who feels at all bothered or insulted by it.

now you know one. it bothers me.

Really? Why does it bother you?

Imagine we are 13 years old, and your name is Susan. Except every day I say "Hi Suzanne!" when I see you, then look at my friends and laugh. When you say, "That's not my name," I say, "Oh, but Suzanne is such a pretty name" then my friends and I laugh some more.

I believe the kids call this a "microaggression" - it's basically just irritating and dumb. But moreover anyone who says it is outed as being some kind of moron Trump supporter, so at least there's that.

Pretty much this- it is similar to my MIL misspelling my name (and my name is common and a common spelling)- she does not like me and does this on purpose. It’s just a subtle dig that if you call out you will be accused of being “sensitive” or similar.

My SIL refused to use "aunt" to refer to me when talking to her kids, though she always referred to her brother as "uncle X." Petty knew no bottom....

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I am a pp who said that it is probably because Democrats are members of the party so it sort of makes sense. I have now read the history of it and while I fully appreciate that there is a long negative history and it certainly is used intentionally by some ok thr right, I honestly think there are a lot of people who don’t mean to be offensive. And it does make sense if you do not know why history. It isn’t obviously offensive. So I think this is something where people might benefit from relaxing a little bit. If you are talking to an avid right winger who you know knows better, call them out. But I am not sure everyone does intend to offend.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised by the posts here. It seems like an obvious slur to me. In fact, almost any time you replace a before-the-noun adjective with its corresponding noun form, it sounds worse.

Compare: “my Swedish neighbor”

with: “my Swede neighbor”

This is a clever and striking thought exercise

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Long as I can call them the Repube party....

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised by the posts here. It seems like an obvious slur to me. In fact, almost any time you replace a before-the-noun adjective with its corresponding noun form, it sounds worse.

Compare: “my Swedish neighbor”

with: “my Swede neighbor”

This is a clever and striking thought exercise

Why would Swede neighbor be rude? Awkward yes. People say German neighbor rather than Germanic. People call British people Brits. New Zealanders are called Kiwis. I think there are so many case specific instances that your rule falls apart. I like horses and we call each other horse people. Non horse people call us horsey people but that isn’t really what we say. But we aren’t offended. There are dog people and cat people and they don’t fall apart with offense. There are travel people, not travelers because travelers are an ethic group. There are cruise people who like to go on cruises but they aren’t cruisers because those people driving around in cars. Sorry no. That rule is not a rule.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised by the posts here. It seems like an obvious slur to me. In fact, almost any time you replace a before-the-noun adjective with its corresponding noun form, it sounds worse.

Compare: “my Swedish neighbor”

with: “my Swede neighbor”

This is a clever and striking thought exercise

Why would Swede neighbor be rude? Awkward yes. People say German neighbor rather than Germanic. People call British people Brits. New Zealanders are called Kiwis. I think there are so many case specific instances that your rule falls apart. I like horses and we call each other horse people. Non horse people call us horsey people but that isn’t really what we say. But we aren’t offended. There are dog people and cat people and they don’t fall apart with offense. There are travel people, not travelers because travelers are an ethic group. There are cruise people who like to go on cruises but they aren’t cruisers because those people driving around in cars. Sorry no. That rule is not a rule.

German is like Republican in that the adjective and the noun are the same word. Democrat is the noun and Democratic is the adjective. It’s not hard, people.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised by the posts here. It seems like an obvious slur to me. In fact, almost any time you replace a before-the-noun adjective with its corresponding noun form, it sounds worse.

Compare: “my Swedish neighbor”

with: “my Swede neighbor”

This is a clever and striking thought exercise

Why would Swede neighbor be rude? Awkward yes. People say German neighbor rather than Germanic. People call British people Brits. New Zealanders are called Kiwis. I think there are so many case specific instances that your rule falls apart. I like horses and we call each other horse people. Non horse people call us horsey people but that isn’t really what we say. But we aren’t offended. There are dog people and cat people and they don’t fall apart with offense. There are travel people, not travelers because travelers are an ethic group. There are cruise people who like to go on cruises but they aren’t cruisers because those people driving around in cars. Sorry no. That rule is not a rule.

German is like Republican in that the adjective and the noun are the same word. Democrat is the noun and Democratic is the adjective. It’s not hard, people.

What about every other example given?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised by the posts here. It seems like an obvious slur to me. In fact, almost any time you replace a before-the-noun adjective with its corresponding noun form, it sounds worse.

Compare: “my Swedish neighbor”

with: “my Swede neighbor”

This is a clever and striking thought exercise

Why would Swede neighbor be rude? Awkward yes. People say German neighbor rather than Germanic. People call British people Brits. New Zealanders are called Kiwis. I think there are so many case specific instances that your rule falls apart. I like horses and we call each other horse people. Non horse people call us horsey people but that isn’t really what we say. But we aren’t offended. There are dog people and cat people and they don’t fall apart with offense. There are travel people, not travelers because travelers are an ethic group. There are cruise people who like to go on cruises but they aren’t cruisers because those people driving around in cars. Sorry no. That rule is not a rule.

German is like Republican in that the adjective and the noun are the same word. Democrat is the noun and Democratic is the adjective. It’s not hard, people.

What about every other example given?

Brit is a noun (formally Briton) and British is an adjective. I’m actually not sure of the correct usage for NZ. My point still stands - not hard, people.