waitlist data up

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Creative Minds seems to be tanking (rightfully so IMO).
2016-17 PK3 433
2017-18 PK3 394
2018-19 PK3 406
2019-20 PK3 212

PK4 also went from 278 last year to 177 this year
K went from 255 to 134

Wow!

Seriously.

+1 so glad and grateful that we got out of there

Ouch. I do notice a lessened interest in CMI in our area. It is no longer passing the "would I drive far for this" test.

MV8 is very nearby and took tons of kids for each of these grades.

That shouldn't have any bearing on how many people applied to CMI. Again, look at ITS, Lee and Cap City who still had similar # of applicants.

Lee have 75 more people on their wait list. Cap city has over a hundred LESS. This is a big fall in numbers, but it's holding it's own among other popular schools. I feel like someone has it in for CMI.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:McKinley Tech kind of surprised me.

There are 4710 8th graders in DCPS+charter this year. Only 39% of 7th graders got a 4 or 5 on the PARCC in 2018, so figure about 1837 kids. Of them, how many also got a 4 or 5 on math? Not possible to tell from the OSSE results--let's say 3/4. Plus there's a gpa requirement. So maybe 1300 kids were eligible to apply for McKinley Tech.

Many of them like the high school they have a right to attend. Some are going private or moving. And others preferred other schools with PARCC requirements: Banneker, SWW, or wanted to try Bard: between those three schools there were 475 seats available for 9th grade.

I'm really glad to see there aren't kids getting 4s and 5s on the PARCC who are shut out of selective high schools.

+1. This is really insightful, and I don't know if I would have thought about it that way. 1,300 students sounds like a lot to me, and I'm curious why you say no one would be shut out? Are there enough seats for that many? I only saw 140 matched at SWW and that makes me worried that it'll be very tough to get into the school in the future.

Reading your thoughts makes me wish we could see who applied, and how many got in from each Middle School. I'd like to see who applied to Bard and SWW especially!

Because proportionally, a huge number of the kids who meet the criteria for the selective schools also have Wilson as a by-right school and choose to stay there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Creative Minds seems to be tanking (rightfully so IMO).
2016-17 PK3 433
2017-18 PK3 394
2018-19 PK3 406
2019-20 PK3 212

PK4 also went from 278 last year to 177 this year
K went from 255 to 134

Wow!

Seriously.

+1 so glad and grateful that we got out of there

Ouch. I do notice a lessened interest in CMI in our area. It is no longer passing the "would I drive far for this" test.

MV8 is very nearby and took tons of kids for each of these grades.

That shouldn't have any bearing on how many people applied to CMI. Again, look at ITS, Lee and Cap City who still had similar # of applicants.

Lee have 75 more people on their wait list. Cap city has over a hundred LESS. This is a big fall in numbers, but it's holding it's own among other popular schools. I feel like someone has it in for CMI.

CMI has a 50% decline in almost all their younger grades. Care to show another school like that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Creative Minds seems to be tanking (rightfully so IMO).
2016-17 PK3 433
2017-18 PK3 394
2018-19 PK3 406
2019-20 PK3 212

PK4 also went from 278 last year to 177 this year
K went from 255 to 134

Wow!

Seriously.

+1 so glad and grateful that we got out of there

Ouch. I do notice a lessened interest in CMI in our area. It is no longer passing the "would I drive far for this" test.

MV8 is very nearby and took tons of kids for each of these grades.

That shouldn't have any bearing on how many people applied to CMI. Again, look at ITS, Lee and Cap City who still had similar # of applicants.

Lee have 75 more people on their wait list. Cap city has over a hundred LESS. This is a big fall in numbers, but it's holding it's own among other popular schools. I feel like someone has it in for CMI.

CMI is a tier 3/2 star school that fails all of its students. No need to have it in for the school. My concern is the white peoole that flock to it. Screams racist intent. But they seem to be “woke” now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McKinley Tech kind of surprised me.

There are 4710 8th graders in DCPS+charter this year. Only 39% of 7th graders got a 4 or 5 on the PARCC in 2018, so figure about 1837 kids. Of them, how many also got a 4 or 5 on math? Not possible to tell from the OSSE results--let's say 3/4. Plus there's a gpa requirement. So maybe 1300 kids were eligible to apply for McKinley Tech.

Many of them like the high school they have a right to attend. Some are going private or moving. And others preferred other schools with PARCC requirements: Banneker, SWW, or wanted to try Bard: between those three schools there were 475 seats available for 9th grade.

I'm really glad to see there aren't kids getting 4s and 5s on the PARCC who are shut out of selective high schools.

+1. This is really insightful, and I don't know if I would have thought about it that way. 1,300 students sounds like a lot to me, and I'm curious why you say no one would be shut out? Are there enough seats for that many? I only saw 140 matched at SWW and that makes me worried that it'll be very tough to get into the school in the future.

Reading your thoughts makes me wish we could see who applied, and how many got in from each Middle School. I'd like to see who applied to Bard and SWW especially!

Don't forget the 4/5 PARCC students enrolled at KIPP, BASIS, Latin, DCI, Cap City ... you get the idea.

Not every strong student wants Wilson or an application school.

Because proportionally, a huge number of the kids who meet the criteria for the selective schools also have Wilson as a by-right school and choose to stay there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McKinley Tech kind of surprised me.

There are 4710 8th graders in DCPS+charter this year. Only 39% of 7th graders got a 4 or 5 on the PARCC in 2018, so figure about 1837 kids. Of them, how many also got a 4 or 5 on math? Not possible to tell from the OSSE results--let's say 3/4. Plus there's a gpa requirement. So maybe 1300 kids were eligible to apply for McKinley Tech.

Many of them like the high school they have a right to attend. Some are going private or moving. And others preferred other schools with PARCC requirements: Banneker, SWW, or wanted to try Bard: between those three schools there were 475 seats available for 9th grade.

I'm really glad to see there aren't kids getting 4s and 5s on the PARCC who are shut out of selective high schools.

+1. This is really insightful, and I don't know if I would have thought about it that way. 1,300 students sounds like a lot to me, and I'm curious why you say no one would be shut out? Are there enough seats for that many? I only saw 140 matched at SWW and that makes me worried that it'll be very tough to get into the school in the future.

Reading your thoughts makes me wish we could see who applied, and how many got in from each Middle School. I'd like to see who applied to Bard and SWW especially!

Because proportionally, a huge number of the kids who meet the criteria for the selective schools also have Wilson as a by-right school and choose to stay there.

And plenty of other students who scored 4/5 on PARCC as 7th graders who decided to remain enrolled at KIPP, BASIS, Latin, DCI, Cap City .... for high school.

Not every student applies to or wants one of the DCPS application high schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Creative Minds seems to be tanking (rightfully so IMO).
2016-17 PK3 433
2017-18 PK3 394
2018-19 PK3 406
2019-20 PK3 212

PK4 also went from 278 last year to 177 this year
K went from 255 to 134

Wow!

Seriously.

+1 so glad and grateful that we got out of there

Ouch. I do notice a lessened interest in CMI in our area. It is no longer passing the "would I drive far for this" test.

MV8 is very nearby and took tons of kids for each of these grades.

That shouldn't have any bearing on how many people applied to CMI. Again, look at ITS, Lee and Cap City who still had similar # of applicants.

Lee have 75 more people on their wait list. Cap city has over a hundred LESS. This is a big fall in numbers, but it's holding it's own among other popular schools. I feel like someone has it in for CMI.

CMI has a 50% decline in almost all their younger grades. Care to show another school like that?

So they've fallen from super popular to just popular. And if you want to see a fall look at SSMA's numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting info on PK3 at Shepherd, only 2 IB on the PK3 waitlist, and an additional 6 with sibling before the no preference/OOB folks.

Having an IB waitlist is relatively new for Shepherd in the last 2 years. It seems a lot of the talk here was that people totally discounted it because they thought they had no chance. I'd bet a handful of OOB/no preference make it through by fall.

I was a little surprised too given recent trends. However, Shepherd's catchment is tiny, and while there's been a bit of a baby boom in the neighborhood in recent years, there still aren't a ton of young families in-boundary.

So yes, I've advised people to add it if they have a spot in their 12. Doesn't hurt and you could get a good number and end up getting in OOB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Creative Minds seems to be tanking (rightfully so IMO).
2016-17 PK3 433
2017-18 PK3 394
2018-19 PK3 406
2019-20 PK3 212

PK4 also went from 278 last year to 177 this year
K went from 255 to 134

Wow!

Seriously.

+1 so glad and grateful that we got out of there

Ouch. I do notice a lessened interest in CMI in our area. It is no longer passing the "would I drive far for this" test.

MV8 is very nearby and took tons of kids for each of these grades.

That shouldn't have any bearing on how many people applied to CMI. Again, look at ITS, Lee and Cap City who still had similar # of applicants.

Lee have 75 more people on their wait list. Cap city has over a hundred LESS. This is a big fall in numbers, but it's holding it's own among other popular schools. I feel like someone has it in for CMI.

CMI has a 50% decline in almost all their younger grades. Care to show another school like that?

So they've fallen from super popular to just popular. And if you want to see a fall look at SSMA's numbers.

My eyes are bleeding from looking at that. Crikey. I guess the combo of no heat, no air conditioning, no principal has really put people off.

[Anonymous]

This thread with all of its conclusion leaping and glee at who is up and who is down is precisely why the Common Lottery Board considers NOT releasing this data every year.

Just keep going and we will lose one of the few nice things we have.

[Anonymous]

Is there data to show how many applicants there were for each charter school? The waitlist data doesn't account for students who applied, but were matched at higher choice schools since they weren't waitlisted at the lower ranked schools.

[Anonymous]

Any thoughts on what it means that Langley matched 147%? It looks like they even put early action students on the wait list. And one link says they offered 36 seats with 20 on the waitlist, while the other link says they matched 53, with 20 on the waitlist. What is going on here??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any thoughts on what it means that Langley matched 147%? It looks like they even put early action students on the wait list. And one link says they offered 36 seats with 20 on the waitlist, while the other link says they matched 53, with 20 on the waitlist. What is going on here??

I really don't know, I am puzzled by the 36 seats myself. Currently they operate three pk3 classes and I don't believe that is changing. However many they offered, 53 matcher because that is how many IBs were allowed to match under Early Action. I expect it will easily attrition down to 42, with the new MV burning through its waitlist, but Langley can add another pk3 if needed-- schools only do Early Action if they can handle an influx.

Early Action means IB kids are not waitlisted so that is likely the artifact of kids matching somewhere they ranked higher but still being waitlisted as a sibling at Langley because they have a sibling attending.

Overall I think 53 plus OOB sibs waitlisted is a strong showing for a school so close to the new MV.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Any thoughts on what it means that Langley matched 147%? It looks like they even put early action students on the wait list. And one link says they offered 36 seats with 20 on the waitlist, while the other link says they matched 53, with 20 on the waitlist. What is going on here??

I really don't know, I am puzzled by the 36 seats myself. Currently they operate three pk3 classes and I don't believe that is changing. However many they offered, 53 matcher because that is how many IBs were allowed to match under Early Action. I expect it will easily attrition down to 42, with the new MV burning through its waitlist, but Langley can add another pk3 if needed-- schools only do Early Action if they can handle an influx.

Early Action means IB kids are not waitlisted so that is likely the artifact of kids matching somewhere they ranked higher but still being waitlisted as a sibling at Langley because they have a sibling attending.

Overall I think 53 plus OOB sibs waitlisted is a strong showing for a school so close to the new MV.

The 147% simply reflects that there was a greater demand for IB Pk3 than initially planned. Every student who is IB who applied for PK3 will get a seat. If that means creating a new class, they will do so. And it is highly possible than creating the class to accommodate the "extra" IB PK3 means that they will fill the rest of the seats in that class with OOB Pk3s.

This happens every year at new EA schools especially because the data is so different than in every other instance.

[Anonymous]

How do I interpret last year's wait list movement data? If a school had made 25 waitlist offers by September, does that mean they got to #25 on their waitlist, or is it possible they got further down on their waitlist because of some shifting around or some other aspect of the lottery that I don't understand fully?