waitlist data up

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Creative Minds seems to be tanking (rightfully so IMO).
2016-17 PK3 433
2017-18 PK3 394
2018-19 PK3 406
2019-20 PK3 212

PK4 also went from 278 last year to 177 this year
K went from 255 to 134

Wow!

Seriously.

+1 so glad and grateful that we got out of there

Ouch. I do notice a lessened interest in CMI in our area. It is no longer passing the "would I drive far for this" test.

MV8 is very nearby and took tons of kids for each of these grades.

That shouldn't have any bearing on how many people applied to CMI. Again, look at ITS, Lee and Cap City who still had similar # of applicants.

Those schools are all better than MV8. Seaton and CMI arguably are not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Creative Minds seems to be tanking (rightfully so IMO).
2016-17 PK3 433
2017-18 PK3 394
2018-19 PK3 406
2019-20 PK3 212

PK4 also went from 278 last year to 177 this year
K went from 255 to 134

Wow!

Seriously.

+1 so glad and grateful that we got out of there

Ouch. I do notice a lessened interest in CMI in our area. It is no longer passing the "would I drive far for this" test.

MV8 is very nearby and took tons of kids for each of these grades.

That shouldn't have any bearing on how many people applied to CMI. Again, look at ITS, Lee and Cap City who still had similar # of applicants.

Those schools are all better than MV8. Seaton and CMI arguably are not.

Agree hence CMI is "tanking" and would have tanked this year whether MV8 opened or not.

[Anonymous]

Langdon is 4 star school with a final grade of 72% and has a PK3 waitlist of 10.
Bunker Hill is a 3 star school with a final grade of 49% and a PK3 waitlist of 2.
CMI is basically a 2 star school with a final grade of 40% and has a PK3 waitlist of 212.

Anyone care to guess why the difference?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eastern had only 7 kids waitlisted, but its feeders had (6/7/8):
Eliot-Hine: 24/13/0 (made 15 seats available in 6th and 15 for 8th)
Jefferson: 106/53/53 (made 20 seats available, all in 6th)
Stuart-Hobson 162/97/53 (no seats made available)

These were all longer waitlists than Brookland or Wells (called New North in the data) and only Eliot-Hine's was shorter than MacFarland's.

I'm hopeful this bodes well for more people attending Eastern in the next 5-10 years.

So 126 people applied to Jefferson for 6th and didn't get a higher match
and 162 people applied to Stuart-Hobson for 6th and didn't get a higher match

I'm surprised how similar these numbers are and how different they are from the 39 who applied to Eliot-Hine and weren't matched somewhere higher.

Stuart Hobson and Jefferson both have honors tracking

Eliot-Hine is a bad school PARCC scores are in the toilet

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:McKinley Tech kind of surprised me.

There are 4710 8th graders in DCPS+charter this year. Only 39% of 7th graders got a 4 or 5 on the PARCC in 2018, so figure about 1837 kids. Of them, how many also got a 4 or 5 on math? Not possible to tell from the OSSE results--let's say 3/4. Plus there's a gpa requirement. So maybe 1300 kids were eligible to apply for McKinley Tech.

Many of them like the high school they have a right to attend. Some are going private or moving. And others preferred other schools with PARCC requirements: Banneker, SWW, or wanted to try Bard: between those three schools there were 475 seats available for 9th grade.

I'm really glad to see there aren't kids getting 4s and 5s on the PARCC who are shut out of selective high schools.

[Anonymous]

I am perplexed that Ellington didn't waitlist anyone. If someone moves to DC now and does a post-lottery application would they be at the top of the waitlist? Does the waitlist move at all? Do they even have a procedure to assess kids outside the normal timeframe (assuming your dad isn't the chancellor)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am perplexed that Ellington didn't waitlist anyone. If someone moves to DC now and does a post-lottery application would they be at the top of the waitlist? Does the waitlist move at all? Do they even have a procedure to assess kids outside the normal timeframe (assuming your dad isn't the chancellor)?

You need to call them and ask. I don't know the answer.

But I do understand how it happens. The application schools each independently develop an admission list from all their applicants. However, each application school doesn't know how the students ranked them.

A student can apply and go through the process at multiple application schools -- let's say that Joe applies to McKinley, Banneker, and Ellington. Joe attends Washington Latin, but wants to try his look and think about changing. At the conclusion of the interview/application/audition process, all 3 application schools put Joe on their list of admitted students.

Joe ranked the schools 1) Banneker 2) Ellington 3) McKinley on his application. When the results come out, he was admitted to Banneker. He has no idea whether he would have been admitted to Ellington or McKinley because they dropped off his list.

After mulling over his results, Joe decides to stay at Latin for high school. So all 3 application schools are down an applicant, which they had no way of knowing. For those 3 schools the wait list isn't deep or is nonexistent because they don't want to admit students who didn't clear their bar (3.0+ 4 or 5 on PARCC for Banneker and McKinley; audition for Ellington)

[Anonymous]

Anyone know if there is a downloadable file for the waitlist offers dashboard? I would like to see all school years on my screen without flipping back and forth for each school.

On DCPS's site I found a file here(https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-results-msdc-lottery-data-sy19-20-seats) but it doesn't include waitlist offers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Creative Minds seems to be tanking (rightfully so IMO).
2016-17 PK3 433
2017-18 PK3 394
2018-19 PK3 406
2019-20 PK3 212

PK4 also went from 278 last year to 177 this year
K went from 255 to 134

Wow!

Seriously.

+1 so glad and grateful that we got out of there

Ouch. I do notice a lessened interest in CMI in our area. It is no longer passing the "would I drive far for this" test.

MV8 is very nearby and took tons of kids for each of these grades.

That shouldn't have any bearing on how many people applied to CMI. Again, look at ITS, Lee and Cap City who still had similar # of applicants.

Those schools are all better than MV8. Seaton and CMI arguably are not.

Based on what? Genuinely curious how CMI is better than MV8?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Creative Minds seems to be tanking (rightfully so IMO).
2016-17 PK3 433
2017-18 PK3 394
2018-19 PK3 406
2019-20 PK3 212

PK4 also went from 278 last year to 177 this year
K went from 255 to 134

Wow!

Seriously.

+1 so glad and grateful that we got out of there

Ouch. I do notice a lessened interest in CMI in our area. It is no longer passing the "would I drive far for this" test.

MV8 is very nearby and took tons of kids for each of these grades.

That shouldn't have any bearing on how many people applied to CMI. Again, look at ITS, Lee and Cap City who still had similar # of applicants.

Those schools are all better than MV8. Seaton and CMI arguably are not.

Based on what? Genuinely curious how CMI is better than MV8?

Personal preference and location may cause people to rank it higher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am perplexed that Ellington didn't waitlist anyone. If someone moves to DC now and does a post-lottery application would they be at the top of the waitlist? Does the waitlist move at all? Do they even have a procedure to assess kids outside the normal timeframe (assuming your dad isn't the chancellor)?

You need to call them and ask. I don't know the answer.

But I do understand how it happens. The application schools each independently develop an admission list from all their applicants. However, each application school doesn't know how the students ranked them.

A student can apply and go through the process at multiple application schools -- let's say that Joe applies to McKinley, Banneker, and Ellington. Joe attends Washington Latin, but wants to try his look and think about changing. At the conclusion of the interview/application/audition process, all 3 application schools put Joe on their list of admitted students.

Joe ranked the schools 1) Banneker 2) Ellington 3) McKinley on his application. When the results come out, he was admitted to Banneker. He has no idea whether he would have been admitted to Ellington or McKinley because they dropped off his list.

After mulling over his results, Joe decides to stay at Latin for high school. So all 3 application schools are down an applicant, which they had no way of knowing. For those 3 schools the wait list isn't deep or is nonexistent because they don't want to admit students who didn't clear their bar (3.0+ 4 or 5 on PARCC for Banneker and McKinley; audition for Ellington)

Way fewer kids matched with McKinley this year than last year. Why would that happen?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McKinley Tech kind of surprised me.

There are 4710 8th graders in DCPS+charter this year. Only 39% of 7th graders got a 4 or 5 on the PARCC in 2018, so figure about 1837 kids. Of them, how many also got a 4 or 5 on math? Not possible to tell from the OSSE results--let's say 3/4. Plus there's a gpa requirement. So maybe 1300 kids were eligible to apply for McKinley Tech.

Many of them like the high school they have a right to attend. Some are going private or moving. And others preferred other schools with PARCC requirements: Banneker, SWW, or wanted to try Bard: between those three schools there were 475 seats available for 9th grade.

I'm really glad to see there aren't kids getting 4s and 5s on the PARCC who are shut out of selective high schools.

+1. This is really insightful, and I don't know if I would have thought about it that way. 1,300 students sounds like a lot to me, and I'm curious why you say no one would be shut out? Are there enough seats for that many? I only saw 140 matched at SWW and that makes me worried that it'll be very tough to get into the school in the future.

Reading your thoughts makes me wish we could see who applied, and how many got in from each Middle School. I'd like to see who applied to Bard and SWW especially!

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know why SWS is offering only 25 PK3 seats this year despite offering more in the past? I wonder if it has anything to do with offering more seats in K-5.

[Anonymous]

No horse in this race (other than property owned IB), but way to go SH!!! And their ES feeders are showing up as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am perplexed that Ellington didn't waitlist anyone. If someone moves to DC now and does a post-lottery application would they be at the top of the waitlist? Does the waitlist move at all? Do they even have a procedure to assess kids outside the normal timeframe (assuming your dad isn't the chancellor)?

You need to call them and ask. I don't know the answer.

But I do understand how it happens. The application schools each independently develop an admission list from all their applicants. However, each application school doesn't know how the students ranked them.

A student can apply and go through the process at multiple application schools -- let's say that Joe applies to McKinley, Banneker, and Ellington. Joe attends Washington Latin, but wants to try his look and think about changing. At the conclusion of the interview/application/audition process, all 3 application schools put Joe on their list of admitted students.

Joe ranked the schools 1) Banneker 2) Ellington 3) McKinley on his application. When the results come out, he was admitted to Banneker. He has no idea whether he would have been admitted to Ellington or McKinley because they dropped off his list.

After mulling over his results, Joe decides to stay at Latin for high school. So all 3 application schools are down an applicant, which they had no way of knowing. For those 3 schools the wait list isn't deep or is nonexistent because they don't want to admit students who didn't clear their bar (3.0+ 4 or 5 on PARCC for Banneker and McKinley; audition for Ellington)

Way fewer kids matched with McKinley this year than last year. Why would that happen?

1) Because of Coolidge and Bard.

2) McKinley's applicant pool is improving academically but that also causes more overlap with Walls, Ellington, and Banneker.