Schools that have gotten EASIER to get into over theyears

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For the majority of schools outside the top 20, the best tool for looking at selectivity is to look at three: the 25th-75th percentile of test scores, mean GPA and acceptance rate. Each of these can be gamed, but acceptance rate is the most in the college's control and most gamed.


Yes, but when speaking of a school and it's own historical selectivity, which is the premise of the thread, it is a far worse tool as standardized testing baselines have been reset so many times it is massively misleading.

The OP was clearly asking about schools whose acceptance rates are increasing.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Penn State
Occidental
JMU


Definitely not JMU. I grew up here and it's become much harder to get into.


No, it hasn't. 25 years ago the acceptance rate was in the 30s, now it's 70%. That's partly because they have more students.


JMU has added lots of capacity, it was much harder to get into 20-30 years ago because there were many fewer slots for applicants.

It's become less competitive to get into some of the private colleges in VA in the same vicinity because JMU is siphoning off their students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the majority of schools outside the top 20, the best tool for looking at selectivity is to look at three: the 25th-75th percentile of test scores, mean GPA and acceptance rate. Each of these can be gamed, but acceptance rate is the most in the college's control and most gamed.


Yes, but when speaking of a school and it's own historical selectivity, which is the premise of the thread, it is a far worse tool as standardized testing baselines have been reset so many times it is massively misleading.

The OP was clearly asking about schools whose acceptance rates are increasing.


Decile/quartile percentages in graduating class are also telling.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: YOU CANNOT LOOK SOLELY AT ACCEPTANCE RATES TO DETERMINE HOW HARD IT IS TO GET INTO A PARTICULAR COLLEGE; IT IS NOT REALLY A VALID MEASURE OF HOW SELECTIVE THE INSTITUTION IS.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.


+1

St. John's College is 70% its high because it's a self-selecting school where unqualified students generally shy away from even applying.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Oberlin


Not true based on what I could find. There were years in the 90's that it was over 60% admitted and now it's pretty consistent in the 20s or 30s.


Oberlin is also one of the self-selecting schools. It's not just for bookworms. Because of its Conservatory, Oberlin tends to attract artistic kids. It's one thing to study 24/7, cram through prep schools, and have high stats. It's high stats plus artistic accomplishments.
Anonymous
It warms my heart to see that people are finally wising up to the Acceptance Rate nonsense.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oberlin


Not true based on what I could find. There were years in the 90's that it was over 60% admitted and now it's pretty consistent in the 20s or 30s.


Oberlin is also one of the self-selecting schools. It's not just for bookworms. Because of its Conservatory, Oberlin tends to attract artistic kids. It's one thing to study 24/7, cram through prep schools, and have high stats. It's high stats plus artistic accomplishments.


It certainly is self selective now that it has a reputation as a Snowflake Academy.
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Anonymous wrote:Trinity in Hartford.


Acceptance rate

2010 - 41%
2013 - 34%
2015 - 33%
2018 - 34%

Sorry, but wrong.

Dead wrong. Read the article from 1995, when the acceptance rate was roughly 50% and they talk about Colby and Bates being lesser schools (true). Trinity is getting killed by the location and CT's inability to fix the squalor of West Hartford.

https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-xpm-1995-04-03-9504030045-story.html


Squalor of West Hartford, LOL. West Hartford is a suburb of Hartford and is one of the wealthiest towns in the country.

Trinity is in the city of Hartford, in a neighborhood called Frog Hollow. And yes, it is a poor neighborhood.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oberlin


Not true based on what I could find. There were years in the 90's that it was over 60% admitted and now it's pretty consistent in the 20s or 30s.


Oberlin is also one of the self-selecting schools. It's not just for bookworms. Because of its Conservatory, Oberlin tends to attract artistic kids. It's one thing to study 24/7, cram through prep schools, and have high stats. It's high stats plus artistic accomplishments.


It certainly is self selective now that it has a reputation as a Snowflake Academy.


It's self-selecting cuz it also attracts those who absolutely oppose ultra alt-right types, those who believe we are all One. Trumpsters tend to apply to Trump U or the U of Penn.
Anonymous
I got into Stony Brook a million years ago with a 78 average and 990 on the SAT. Today my nephew applied and you have to be a rocket scientist.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oberlin


Not true based on what I could find. There were years in the 90's that it was over 60% admitted and now it's pretty consistent in the 20s or 30s.


Oberlin is also one of the self-selecting schools. It's not just for bookworms. Because of its Conservatory, Oberlin tends to attract artistic kids. It's one thing to study 24/7, cram through prep schools, and have high stats. It's high stats plus artistic accomplishments.


It certainly is self selective now that it has a reputation as a Snowflake Academy.


There are many insults that say more about the deliverer than the intended. Any using the word "snowflake" qualifies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oberlin


Not true based on what I could find. There were years in the 90's that it was over 60% admitted and now it's pretty consistent in the 20s or 30s.


Oberlin is also one of the self-selecting schools. It's not just for bookworms. Because of its Conservatory, Oberlin tends to attract artistic kids. It's one thing to study 24/7, cram through prep schools, and have high stats. It's high stats plus artistic accomplishments.


It certainly is self selective now that it has a reputation as a Snowflake Academy.


It's self-selecting cuz it also attracts those who absolutely oppose ultra alt-right types, those who believe we are all One. Trumpsters tend to apply to Trump U or the U of Penn.


They also absolutely seem to oppose moderates and basically anyone who prepared to join the Red Guard.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I got into Stony Brook a million years ago with a 78 average and 990 on the SAT. Today my nephew applied and you have to be a rocket scientist.


Easy big fella! Fewer than half of entrants are from top decile of their HS class. Good school and no dummies allowed but scores and grades aren’t exactly rocket scientists.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I got into Stony Brook a million years ago with a 78 average and 990 on the SAT. Today my nephew applied and you have to be a rocket scientist.


Easy big fella! Fewer than half of entrants are from top decile of their HS class. Good school and no dummies allowed but scores and grades aren’t exactly rocket scientists.


Your statement is unprovable, as only 37% of students report rank.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Skidmore


Skidmore's admit rate is now down to 25%. It has been dropping precipitously.
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