Comparing top Catholic Universities

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is by far the best school on this list in every sense of the word, by every metric both objective and subjective. The others don’t come close. And my Georgetown grad Jewish son was not required to attend mass (nor was anyone else).

You only feel this way because you're Jewish. By most quantifiable measures ND is a better school.

Patently incorrect. Nice try. Georgetown and Notre Dame don't belong in the same sentence.

Perhaps you are confusing Notre Dame in South Bend with the one in Maryland? I, along with the majority of posters on this forum, couldn't disagree more strongly with your statement. ND is consistently ranked ahead of Georgetown on many metrics as you saw illustrated in prior posts on this thread. You either missed those posts, are challenged with reading comprehension, or just downright in denial.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is only "catholic".

Notre Dame is the most Catholic of the group.

True Georgetown isn't all that Catholic but they do require two semesters of theology and two semesters of philosophy - which is not typical of non-Catholic schools. And it is influenced somewhat by the social justice emphasis of the Jesuits.

True. Same requirement at BC and ND (I know, not Jesuit)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is by far the best school on this list in every sense of the word, by every metric both objective and subjective. The others don’t come close. And my Georgetown grad Jewish son was not required to attend mass (nor was anyone else).

You only feel this way because you're Jewish. By most quantifiable measures ND is a better school.

Patently incorrect. Nice try. Georgetown and Notre Dame don't belong in the same sentence.

Perhaps you are confusing Notre Dame in South Bend with the one in Maryland? I, along with the majority of posters on this forum, couldn't disagree more strongly with your statement. ND is consistently ranked ahead of Georgetown on many metrics as you saw illustrated in prior posts on this thread. You either missed those posts, are challenged with reading comprehension, or just downright in denial.

You and the other Notre Dame proponents are willfully ignorant and just plain wrong. Wishing doesn't make it so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is by far the best school on this list in every sense of the word, by every metric both objective and subjective. The others don’t come close. And my Georgetown grad Jewish son was not required to attend mass (nor was anyone else).

You only feel this way because you're Jewish. By most quantifiable measures ND is a better school.

Patently incorrect. Nice try. Georgetown and Notre Dame don't belong in the same sentence.

Perhaps you are confusing Notre Dame in South Bend with the one in Maryland? I, along with the majority of posters on this forum, couldn't disagree more strongly with your statement. ND is consistently ranked ahead of Georgetown on many metrics as you saw illustrated in prior posts on this thread. You either missed those posts, are challenged with reading comprehension, or just downright in denial.

You and the other Notre Dame proponents are willfully ignorant and just plain wrong. Wishing doesn't make it so.

The only one wishing on this thread is the Georgetown booster

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is by far the best school on this list in every sense of the word, by every metric both objective and subjective. The others don’t come close. And my Georgetown grad Jewish son was not required to attend mass (nor was anyone else).

You only feel this way because you're Jewish. By most quantifiable measures ND is a better school.

Patently incorrect. Nice try. Georgetown and Notre Dame don't belong in the same sentence.

Perhaps you are confusing Notre Dame in South Bend with the one in Maryland? I, along with the majority of posters on this forum, couldn't disagree more strongly with your statement. ND is consistently ranked ahead of Georgetown on many metrics as you saw illustrated in prior posts on this thread. You either missed those posts, are challenged with reading comprehension, or just downright in denial.

You and the other Notre Dame proponents are willfully ignorant and just plain wrong. Wishing doesn't make it so.

NP. *shrug* you’ve been asked multiple times to provide SOME evidence - objective or subjective - that Georgetown is better “in every sense of the word.” The fact that you are unable to do that, and people are calling you out on it, doesn’t make them ND “proponents.” Just those who lay out the facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is by far the best school on this list in every sense of the word, by every metric both objective and subjective. The others don’t come close. And my Georgetown grad Jewish son was not required to attend mass (nor was anyone else).

You only feel this way because you're Jewish. By most quantifiable measures ND is a better school.

Patently incorrect. Nice try. Georgetown and Notre Dame don't belong in the same sentence.

Perhaps you are confusing Notre Dame in South Bend with the one in Maryland? I, along with the majority of posters on this forum, couldn't disagree more strongly with your statement. ND is consistently ranked ahead of Georgetown on many metrics as you saw illustrated in prior posts on this thread. You either missed those posts, are challenged with reading comprehension, or just downright in denial.

You and the other Notre Dame proponents are willfully ignorant and just plain wrong. Wishing doesn't make it so.

NP. *shrug* you’ve been asked multiple times to provide SOME evidence - objective or subjective - that Georgetown is better “in every sense of the word.” The fact that you are unable to do that, and people are calling you out on it, doesn’t make them ND “proponents.” Just those who lay out the facts.

+1 . And your lack of supporting evidence makes you look like the imbecile that you are.

[Anonymous]

OP, you might want to go to College Confidential web site and post this question there. Some on DCUM like to slam CC, but I find it is generally a mellower and more helpful board than this one. You could direct your question at both parents and students and ask for parents of students currently at these colleges to post (or to message you privately). The replies will be anecdotal but that seems as valid as some of the "I hated ND because of sports" kinds of answers here, and more personal and "on the ground" than lists of statistics. I like CC because you can get some input from current students, recent grads and parents of students.

I'd bet that your topic has already been posted there in the past, too, so you might find some input by searching past threads on CC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, you might want to go to College Confidential web site and post this question there. Some on DCUM like to slam CC, but I find it is generally a mellower and more helpful board than this one. You could direct your question at both parents and students and ask for parents of students currently at these colleges to post (or to message you privately). The replies will be anecdotal but that seems as valid as some of the "I hated ND because of sports" kinds of answers here, and more personal and "on the ground" than lists of statistics. I like CC because you can get some input from current students, recent grads and parents of students.

I'd bet that your topic has already been posted there in the past, too, so you might find some input by searching past threads on CC.

I actually think there was some helpful information here, with the exception of the lone Georgetown booster.

Notre Dame: Most prestigious, highest ranked, most Catholic, biggest endowment, highly selective, most beautiful campus, the best football, not ideal location.

Georgetown: Also prestigious, highly ranked (but lower than ND), good location but cramped campus, most diverse, highly selective, less Catholic (because of the diversity?)

Boston College: A step down from ND, but very solid school. Not as diverse as Georgetown but strong in the Jesuit traditions. Great location with a beautiful campus right outside of Boston.

Villanova: Lowest ranked of the four but still solid. Not as selective, but very popular due to many basketball championship wins. Nice location outside of Philly. Strong learning center for those with disabilities. Lots of new construction with brand new dorms being built -- ready next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you might want to go to College Confidential web site and post this question there. Some on DCUM like to slam CC, but I find it is generally a mellower and more helpful board than this one. You could direct your question at both parents and students and ask for parents of students currently at these colleges to post (or to message you privately). The replies will be anecdotal but that seems as valid as some of the "I hated ND because of sports" kinds of answers here, and more personal and "on the ground" than lists of statistics. I like CC because you can get some input from current students, recent grads and parents of students.

I'd bet that your topic has already been posted there in the past, too, so you might find some input by searching past threads on CC.

I actually think there was some helpful information here, with the exception of the lone Georgetown booster.

Notre Dame: Most prestigious, highest ranked, most Catholic, biggest endowment, highly selective, most beautiful campus, the best football, not ideal location.

Georgetown: Also prestigious, highly ranked (but lower than ND), good location but cramped campus, most diverse, highly selective, less Catholic (because of the diversity?)

Boston College: A step down from ND, but very solid school. Not as diverse as Georgetown but strong in the Jesuit traditions. Great location with a beautiful campus right outside of Boston.

Villanova: Lowest ranked of the four but still solid. Not as selective, but very popular due to many basketball championship wins. Nice location outside of Philly. Strong learning center for those with disabilities. Lots of new construction with brand new dorms being built -- ready next year.

Not sure if OP cares but ND is not "most Catholic." It has tried over the last few years to correct that issue but it is still a challenge for them since they are the most well known Catholic University. That ship has sailed on Georgetown (and sailing on BC). It is less Catholic because Catholics are opting for other schools like ND and Villanova.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you might want to go to College Confidential web site and post this question there. Some on DCUM like to slam CC, but I find it is generally a mellower and more helpful board than this one. You could direct your question at both parents and students and ask for parents of students currently at these colleges to post (or to message you privately). The replies will be anecdotal but that seems as valid as some of the "I hated ND because of sports" kinds of answers here, and more personal and "on the ground" than lists of statistics. I like CC because you can get some input from current students, recent grads and parents of students.

I'd bet that your topic has already been posted there in the past, too, so you might find some input by searching past threads on CC.

I actually think there was some helpful information here, with the exception of the lone Georgetown booster.

Notre Dame: Most prestigious, highest ranked, most Catholic, biggest endowment, highly selective, most beautiful campus, the best football, not ideal location.

Georgetown: Also prestigious, highly ranked (but lower than ND), good location but cramped campus, most diverse, highly selective, less Catholic (because of the diversity?)

Boston College: A step down from ND, but very solid school. Not as diverse as Georgetown but strong in the Jesuit traditions. Great location with a beautiful campus right outside of Boston.

Villanova: Lowest ranked of the four but still solid. Not as selective, but very popular due to many basketball championship wins. Nice location outside of Philly. Strong learning center for those with disabilities. Lots of new construction with brand new dorms being built -- ready next year.

Not sure if OP cares but ND is not "most Catholic." It has tried over the last few years to correct that issue but it is still a challenge for them since they are the most well known Catholic University. That ship has sailed on Georgetown (and sailing on BC). It is less Catholic because Catholics are opting for other schools like ND and Villanova.

Not sure what you are saying here. Are you saying that ND is trying to be less Catholic? Because that is not the sense I get at all. They have chapels in each and every dorm with a Sunday night mass in each chapel. Sounds pretty Catholic to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, I have long-standing hate for ND (irrationally due to sports and a family member's admissions rejection) and can easily admit (on an anonymous board) that of course ND is the best Catholic school. But if you're not South Bend & football loving and lean a bit cultish, then I don't think its the right fit for a lot of people. Fortunately, BC, GT, Villanova and others are great schools.

What the heck does that mean?

[Anonymous]

NP. Here’s how I see it. Notre Dame is definitely the most Catholic of the MAINSTREAM Catholic universities, like BC, Georgetown, Villanova, Marquette, Dayton, etc. It’s not nearly as Catholic as schools like Wyoming Catholic, a Franciscan u of Steubenville, U of Dallas. But I think that’s probably a good call on their part.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. Here’s how I see it. Notre Dame is definitely the most Catholic of the MAINSTREAM Catholic universities, like BC, Georgetown, Villanova, Marquette, Dayton, etc. It’s not nearly as Catholic as schools like Wyoming Catholic, a Franciscan u of Steubenville, U of Dallas. But I think that’s probably a good call on their part.

I've never even heard of those last three.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, I have long-standing hate for ND (irrationally due to sports and a family member's admissions rejection) and can easily admit (on an anonymous board) that of course ND is the best Catholic school. But if you're not South Bend & football loving and lean a bit cultish, then I don't think its the right fit for a lot of people. Fortunately, BC, GT, Villanova and others are great schools.

What the heck does that mean?

I took it as a reference to school spirit, rather than religion. Probably because it immediately follows the mention of football. Same way one could accuse Michigan fans of being cultish. I'm a domer, but I can accept that we have some fans that are a bit too into it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Here’s how I see it. Notre Dame is definitely the most Catholic of the MAINSTREAM Catholic universities, like BC, Georgetown, Villanova, Marquette, Dayton, etc. It’s not nearly as Catholic as schools like Wyoming Catholic, a Franciscan u of Steubenville, U of Dallas. But I think that’s probably a good call on their part.

I've never even heard of those last three.

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Yah, that's the point. They are attended only by the most Catholic of Catholics. Like Pat Buchanan types. These are the people who think even Notre Dame is too liberal/not Catholic enough. Georgetown or BC? Forget about it. Never in a bazillion years would they support such institutions.