New ESSA Star Framework for DC Public and Charter Schools

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Anonymous wrote:I think actually there has been quite a lot of discussion of growth scores on here.

Thing that bothers me is when I see PARCC a bit over valued. I wish we had other metrics as well aside from things like attendance, re-enrollment. We're really putting a lot of weight on this one metric.

Such as?

I'm honestly not sure, I was hoping one of the education wonks had an idea.

At the least, I think the scores should be broken down by not only growth but things like number of at-risk and FARM students, so that the raw PARCC score is used in conjunction with these factors. It's like someone said - we're just going to end up with a list that tracks perfectly with the socioeconomic background of the students.

I have a friend whose heart is set on one particular school, and because of PARCC won't consider even any charter schools. I've had a hard time explaining why I think this is misguided.

What if you could see things like:

“School A is really good at teaching kids with special needs, but only average at teaching ELL students.”
“School B has really high growth at bringing kids from way behind grade to grade level.”
“School C has really high growth with students who are starting the year at or above grade level.”

Wouldn't that be so great! That is what parents seem to want - to know what school is ideal for THEIR kid.

What about a short narrative:

School A teachers SN kids particularly well, is very diverse, has high re-enrollment, and uses an alternative or nontraditional teaching method. Staff turnover is high, but parent re-enrollment also high. Compared to other schools it has better than average growth scores for students who score 4 or 5 on PARCC. However, it had very few students score 5 in math on PARCC.

I guess this is what a parent is supposed to piece together themselves from the card, but, instead I bet they basically look at the star rating and then maybe the race and at risk, then move on.

My understanding is that you will be able to tell that - not on the overall Stars but by subgroup. So my school could be a 4-Star overall but could also be a 5-star for at-risk or special needs. It's not the same as the narrative you describe (which would be fantastic) but could still be very helpful to parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think actually there has been quite a lot of discussion of growth scores on here.

Thing that bothers me is when I see PARCC a bit over valued. I wish we had other metrics as well aside from things like attendance, re-enrollment. We're really putting a lot of weight on this one metric.

Such as?

I'm honestly not sure, I was hoping one of the education wonks had an idea.

At the least, I think the scores should be broken down by not only growth but things like number of at-risk and FARM students, so that the raw PARCC score is used in conjunction with these factors. It's like someone said - we're just going to end up with a list that tracks perfectly with the socioeconomic background of the students.

I have a friend whose heart is set on one particular school, and because of PARCC won't consider even any charter schools. I've had a hard time explaining why I think this is misguided.

Wonder what school your friend is looking for? I wonder if your friend, that’s only into PARCC, will apply to Bannker when the time comes (if it had the same demographics as today).

No because....Wilson...

Wilson PARCC scores are atrocious, Banneker’s are amazing. What’s your point?

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard about the new 5 star report card for public and Charter schools? It's supposed to be released next week. How does compare with the Tier Rankings and PMF ratings? Now everyone is just going to want to go to 5 star schools. I wonder how my neighborhood school would rank? How are schools ranked anyway?

is it being released for all schools next week?

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard about the new 5 star report card for public and Charter schools? It's supposed to be released next week. How does compare with the Tier Rankings and PMF ratings? Now everyone is just going to want to go to 5 star schools. I wonder how my neighborhood school would rank? How are schools ranked anyway?

is it being released for all schools next week?

All of the report cards will be released in 'early december.'

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard about the new 5 star report card for public and Charter schools? It's supposed to be released next week. How does compare with the Tier Rankings and PMF ratings? Now everyone is just going to want to go to 5 star schools. I wonder how my neighborhood school would rank? How are schools ranked anyway?

is it being released for all schools next week?

All of the report cards will be released in 'early december.'

Charter too?

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard about the new 5 star report card for public and Charter schools? It's supposed to be released next week. How does compare with the Tier Rankings and PMF ratings? Now everyone is just going to want to go to 5 star schools. I wonder how my neighborhood school would rank? How are schools ranked anyway?

is it being released for all schools next week?

All of the report cards will be released in 'early december.'

Charter too?

Yes, all at once.

[Anonymous]

The thing that is sad and we forget on this board is that there are kids enrolled at all these schools. How does it make a kid feel to be enrolled at a “one star” school?

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that is sad and we forget on this board is that there are kids enrolled at all these schools. How does it make a kid feel to be enrolled at a “one star” school?

I don’t think it’s forgotten. Though I don’t know if everyone cares. It was better when schools were designated rising or focused or distinguished. But doesn’t ESSA/NCLB require some kind of report card ranking of schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard about the new 5 star report card for public and Charter schools? It's supposed to be released next week. How does compare with the Tier Rankings and PMF ratings? Now everyone is just going to want to go to 5 star schools. I wonder how my neighborhood school would rank? How are schools ranked anyway?

is it being released for all schools next week?

All of the report cards will be released in 'early december.'

Charter too?

Yes, all at once.

Why did we just go through the pmf tier stuff then. Seems like they just should have waited.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that is sad and we forget on this board is that there are kids enrolled at all these schools. How does it make a kid feel to be enrolled at a “one star” school?

But you know how your school is doing for your child. It is very possible my charter will get 3 stars, but I know how much my daughter is learning there so will not be concerned.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard about the new 5 star report card for public and Charter schools? It's supposed to be released next week. How does compare with the Tier Rankings and PMF ratings? Now everyone is just going to want to go to 5 star schools. I wonder how my neighborhood school would rank? How are schools ranked anyway?

is it being released for all schools next week?

All of the report cards will be released in 'early december.'

Charter too?

Yes, all at once.

Why did we just go through the pmf tier stuff then. Seems like they just should have waited.

PMF is charter only and the inputs are not exactly the same. A charter school will have both a Tier and a STAR rating.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that is sad and we forget on this board is that there are kids enrolled at all these schools. How does it make a kid feel to be enrolled at a “one star” school?

I don’t think it’s forgotten. Though I don’t know if everyone cares. It was better when schools were designated rising or focused or distinguished. But doesn’t ESSA/NCLB require some kind of report card ranking of schools?

Yes - ESSA requires every state create and release this kind of report card annually.

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Isn't it going to be bad optics when a ton of tier 1 charters get three stars?

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't it going to be bad optics when a ton of tier 1 charters get three stars?

Have youncrunched the numbers? Why are you sure the results will turn out this way?