Petar for Ward 3: Endorsed by the Washington Post (Update)

[Anonymous]

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Cheh has been hearing it for 3 terms that the people of the Ward want an outdoor pool like every other ward and community in the city. She has listened and is trying to deliver.

God I hate that line of reasoning. You'd almost think we have to go through passport control to enter another ward. Ward boundaries are imaginary lines. There are large parts of Ward 3 that are closer to another ward than they are to Hearst.

Should residents everywhere in the city have high-quality, convenient recreational facilities? Absolutely. Do they have to be in the same ward? Absolutely not.

And yet, look at a map, there are huge swaths of areas west of Rock Creek Park that are not close to Jelleff or Takoma. Hearst will help serve those areas. Or do you not understand that?

See the map here: https://dpr.dc.gov/page/outdoor-pools

See that big huge area in the NW part of the city with no blue dots?

Just as there are large parts of Ward 3 that are closer to Jelleff, Volta or Upshur than they are to Hearst.

What that map tells me is that it's not at all a Ward 3 issue. There are large parts of Wards 1, 4 and 5 that are equally underserved. There is no pool anywhere in the city north of the Upshur pool. In fact, you can draw a line on that map through the geographic center of DC at 4th and L NW -- splitting the city in half by area -- with 16 pools on one side of the line and six on the other.

Casting the problem as "Ward 3 lacks an outdoor pool" mischaracterizes the problem. It's really that the pools that exist are poorly distributed, with the northern third of the city completely lacking.

True, but given there is a pool at Takoma, and there is nothing west of Rock Creek north or Upshur, then helping to fill the gap makes sense, which i what the city is trying to do. So why does Petar want to take this amenity that we all pay for in other parts of the city, away from us? It may not be a "Ward 3" problem, but Ward 3 residents are impacted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So why should the residents of the Ward, which is most of that blank area, be without a service that the rest of the taxpaying residents of the city have?

So for a political candidate to come out against it to curry what amounts to a handful of votes relative to those who have been asking for this, is crazy.

You're acting like the residents of the ward who don't live nearby will somehow benefit simply by virtue of being in the same ward. Ward boundaries are imaginary, invisible lines that change every ten years.

Will people who live in Kent go to Jelleff to swim? Probably not. Will they go to Hearst? More likely.
Will people who live in AU Park go to Jelleff to swim? Probably not. Will they go to Hearst? More likely.
Will people who live in Chevy Chase, DC go to Jelleff to swim? Probably not. Will they go to Hearst? More likely.
Will people who live in Palisades go to Jelleff to swim? Probably not. Will they go to Hearst? More likely.

Should I keep going?

And maybe I am making the point for those who are opposed to the pool. They don't want these fellow DC residents going to "their" neighobrhood even though they use Turle Park, Palisades Park, Lafayette Park, Livingson Park etc.

[Anonymous]

Petar, I read the City Paper story on you and I wish you well. DC politics needs good people to run for office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Petar, I read the City Paper story on you and I wish you well. DC politics needs good people to run for office.

The city also needs people who know what they are talking about. His platform his better streets as if the Councilmember and not the Mayor executes road repair. A basic lack of knowledge or understanding how the government works. Decent person, of course, but the bar should be much higher in this day and age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Cheh has been hearing it for 3 terms that the people of the Ward want an outdoor pool like every other ward and community in the city. She has listened and is trying to deliver.

God I hate that line of reasoning. You'd almost think we have to go through passport control to enter another ward. Ward boundaries are imaginary lines. There are large parts of Ward 3 that are closer to another ward than they are to Hearst.

Should residents everywhere in the city have high-quality, convenient recreational facilities? Absolutely. Do they have to be in the same ward? Absolutely not.

And yet, look at a map, there are huge swaths of areas west of Rock Creek Park that are not close to Jelleff or Takoma. Hearst will help serve those areas. Or do you not understand that?

See the map here: https://dpr.dc.gov/page/outdoor-pools

See that big huge area in the NW part of the city with no blue dots?

Just as there are large parts of Ward 3 that are closer to Jelleff, Volta or Upshur than they are to Hearst.

What that map tells me is that it's not at all a Ward 3 issue. There are large parts of Wards 1, 4 and 5 that are equally underserved. There is no pool anywhere in the city north of the Upshur pool. In fact, you can draw a line on that map through the geographic center of DC at 4th and L NW -- splitting the city in half by area -- with 16 pools on one side of the line and six on the other.

Casting the problem as "Ward 3 lacks an outdoor pool" mischaracterizes the problem. It's really that the pools that exist are poorly distributed, with the northern third of the city completely lacking.

True, but given there is a pool at Takoma, and there is nothing west of Rock Creek north or Upshur, then helping to fill the gap makes sense, which i what the city is trying to do. So why does Petar want to take this amenity that we all pay for in other parts of the city, away from us? It may not be a "Ward 3" problem, but Ward 3 residents are impacted.

If you're going to count the indoor pool at Takoma then you have to count the indoor pool at Wilson too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So why should the residents of the Ward, which is most of that blank area, be without a service that the rest of the taxpaying residents of the city have?

So for a political candidate to come out against it to curry what amounts to a handful of votes relative to those who have been asking for this, is crazy.

You're acting like the residents of the ward who don't live nearby will somehow benefit simply by virtue of being in the same ward. Ward boundaries are imaginary, invisible lines that change every ten years.

Will people who live in Kent go to Jelleff to swim? Probably not. Will they go to Hearst? More likely.
Will people who live in AU Park go to Jelleff to swim? Probably not. Will they go to Hearst? More likely.
Will people who live in Chevy Chase, DC go to Jelleff to swim? Probably not. Will they go to Hearst? More likely.
Will people who live in Palisades go to Jelleff to swim? Probably not. Will they go to Hearst? More likely.

Should I keep going?

And maybe I am making the point for those who are opposed to the pool. They don't want these fellow DC residents going to "their" neighobrhood even though they use Turle Park, Palisades Park, Lafayette Park, Livingson Park etc.

According to Google Maps from Palisades or Kent to Jelleff is 9 minutes, to Hearst is 10.

[Anonymous]

Mary Cheh has done an excellent job in Ward 3 since she was elected in 2006. I lived in Ward 3 long before she was elected. She has a broad view of what needs to be done and her office is always super responsive to constituents.

Petar seems like a nice guy but he has not knocked on my door or called me and I know absolutely nothing about him other than the youtube video I saw here. That is troubling in and of itself.

I want someone who is engaged and interested in more than "infrastructure."

Best of luck to both but Mary has my vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Cheh has been hearing it for 3 terms that the people of the Ward want an outdoor pool like every other ward and community in the city. She has listened and is trying to deliver.

God I hate that line of reasoning. You'd almost think we have to go through passport control to enter another ward. Ward boundaries are imaginary lines. There are large parts of Ward 3 that are closer to another ward than they are to Hearst.

Should residents everywhere in the city have high-quality, convenient recreational facilities? Absolutely. Do they have to be in the same ward? Absolutely not.

And yet, look at a map, there are huge swaths of areas west of Rock Creek Park that are not close to Jelleff or Takoma. Hearst will help serve those areas. Or do you not understand that?

See the map here: https://dpr.dc.gov/page/outdoor-pools

See that big huge area in the NW part of the city with no blue dots?

Just as there are large parts of Ward 3 that are closer to Jelleff, Volta or Upshur than they are to Hearst.

What that map tells me is that it's not at all a Ward 3 issue. There are large parts of Wards 1, 4 and 5 that are equally underserved. There is no pool anywhere in the city north of the Upshur pool. In fact, you can draw a line on that map through the geographic center of DC at 4th and L NW -- splitting the city in half by area -- with 16 pools on one side of the line and six on the other.

Casting the problem as "Ward 3 lacks an outdoor pool" mischaracterizes the problem. It's really that the pools that exist are poorly distributed, with the northern third of the city completely lacking.

True, but given there is a pool at Takoma, and there is nothing west of Rock Creek north or Upshur, then helping to fill the gap makes sense, which i what the city is trying to do. So why does Petar want to take this amenity that we all pay for in other parts of the city, away from us? It may not be a "Ward 3" problem, but Ward 3 residents are impacted.

If you're going to count the indoor pool at Takoma then you have to count the indoor pool at Wilson too.

The pool I was thinking of in Takoma is on the Maryland side. So that makes the issue even more acute, but it doesn't take away from DPR rightfully addressing it with the support o Cheh. Why does Petar want to undermine something that most of the people living in the area want? It is a red herring to suggest other sites, particularly ones not owned by the District. This is what is on the table now and the Cheh has listened to her constituents and is delivering on it.

Thank you Mary Cheh.

[Anonymous]

There are a surprisingly large number of Petar yard signs in Cleveland Park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh has done an excellent job in Ward 3 since she was elected in 2006. I lived in Ward 3 long before she was elected. She has a broad view of what needs to be done and her office is always super responsive to constituents.

Petar seems like a nice guy but he has not knocked on my door or called me and I know absolutely nothing about him other than the youtube video I saw here. That is troubling in and of itself.

I want someone who is engaged and interested in more than "infrastructure."

Best of luck to both but Mary has my vote.

I disagree. My experience is that if you agree with Cheh, fine. But she does not listen to her constituents. She thinks she's the smartest person in the room (news flash: that's usually not the case) and that she always knows best. Perhaps this is her law professor personality. This tendency seems to have gotten worse the longer that she has stayed in office. Lately, her historically high energy level seems to have been replaced by a certain boredom. Combined with her natural arrogance, this is not a good combination. So I'm voting for change = Petar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So why should the residents of the Ward, which is most of that blank area, be without a service that the rest of the taxpaying residents of the city have?

So for a political candidate to come out against it to curry what amounts to a handful of votes relative to those who have been asking for this, is crazy.

You're acting like the residents of the ward who don't live nearby will somehow benefit simply by virtue of being in the same ward. Ward boundaries are imaginary, invisible lines that change every ten years.

Will people who live in Kent go to Jelleff to swim? Probably not. Will they go to Hearst? More likely.
Will people who live in AU Park go to Jelleff to swim? Probably not. Will they go to Hearst? More likely.
Will people who live in Chevy Chase, DC go to Jelleff to swim? Probably not. Will they go to Hearst? More likely.
Will people who live in Palisades go to Jelleff to swim? Probably not. Will they go to Hearst? More likely.

Should I keep going?

And maybe I am making the point for those who are opposed to the pool. They don't want these fellow DC residents going to "their" neighobrhood even though they use Turle Park, Palisades Park, Lafayette Park, Livingson Park etc.

and they will drive. Not exactly green, is it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw signs that say vote for Petar to make roads better.

Are roads the biggest issue in the ward or the city?

That is strange.

I was recently in Moscow. Russian roads seem better now than the ones in DC. Thanks, Bowser.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh has done an excellent job in Ward 3 since she was elected in 2006. I lived in Ward 3 long before she was elected. She has a broad view of what needs to be done and her office is always super responsive to constituents.

Petar seems like a nice guy but he has not knocked on my door or called me and I know absolutely nothing about him other than the youtube video I saw here. That is troubling in and of itself.

I want someone who is engaged and interested in more than "infrastructure."

Best of luck to both but Mary has my vote.

I disagree. My experience is that if you agree with Cheh, fine. But she does not listen to her constituents. She thinks she's the smartest person in the room (news flash: that's usually not the case) and that she always knows best. Perhaps this is her law professor personality. This tendency seems to have gotten worse the longer that she has stayed in office. Lately, her historically high energy level seems to have been replaced by a certain boredom. Combined with her natural arrogance, this is not a good combination. So I'm voting for change = Petar.

Interesting. I personally do not get that vibe from her at all. She knows what is going on, knows how the city works, knows how to prioritize based on what is possible at a given point in time (even when that upsets some constituents), and can compromise to get things done. This isn't an easy city. I don't see Petar as ready for that yet.

[Anonymous]

Now there is a reason to vote for you..endorsed by Washington post LOL. Get real

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So why should the residents of the Ward, which is most of that blank area, be without a service that the rest of the taxpaying residents of the city have?

So for a political candidate to come out against it to curry what amounts to a handful of votes relative to those who have been asking for this, is crazy.

You're acting like the residents of the ward who don't live nearby will somehow benefit simply by virtue of being in the same ward. Ward boundaries are imaginary, invisible lines that change every ten years.

Will people who live in Kent go to Jelleff to swim? Probably not. Will they go to Hearst? More likely.
Will people who live in AU Park go to Jelleff to swim? Probably not. Will they go to Hearst? More likely.
Will people who live in Chevy Chase, DC go to Jelleff to swim? Probably not. Will they go to Hearst? More likely.
Will people who live in Palisades go to Jelleff to swim? Probably not. Will they go to Hearst? More likely.

Should I keep going?

And maybe I am making the point for those who are opposed to the pool. They don't want these fellow DC residents going to "their" neighobrhood even though they use Turle Park, Palisades Park, Lafayette Park, Livingson Park etc.

and they will drive. Not exactly green, is it?

And if you're going to drive anyway, physical proximity becomes less important than convenience issues like parking. Getting in your car and driving for ten minutes isn't that different from driving for fifteen minutes.