VDA ECNL

[Anonymous]

PWSI and VSA are not losing players to McLean, FCV, BRYC, RU, etc anymore. They will be the dominant NOVA club in 2 years once their older teams age out (who have lost players every year to the previously mentioned clubs). Their 06's and 05's paint a pretty clear picture. Spirit is full of kids that didn't make VDA from PWSI and VSA. Dark days ahead for the DA. Driving 300 miles or having to fly to get a decent game is going to get old quick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PWSI and VSA are not losing players to McLean, FCV, BRYC, RU, etc anymore. They will be the dominant NOVA club in 2 years once their older teams age out (who have lost players every year to the previously mentioned clubs). Their 06's and 05's paint a pretty clear picture. Spirit is full of kids that didn't make VDA from PWSI and VSA. Dark days ahead for the DA. Driving 300 miles or having to fly to get a decent game is going to get old quick.

Ummm, don't you drive to South Carolina, North Carolina and Richmond?

Don't you also fly to Florida, Phoenix, Seattle and San Diego? I'm not sure you can sell ECNL as a travel bargain. At least with DA, if your team makes the Finals in their National Championship the trip is on US Soccer. If you are a successful ECNL team, of which several VDA teams will be, your expense just went through the roof.

There many arguments Pro ECNL that you can make but less travel is not one of them.

[Anonymous]

ECNL helps with expenses to finals but not playoffs just like DA. I think the point being made is good DA clubs have to travel quite some distance to get a competitive game where ECNL clubs in Maryland and VA can get competition every weekend. That's why the DA is allowing for cross-conference scheduling. The clubs that could not go back to ECNL were worried about the level of play top to bottom. FCV playing Spirit VA 4 times is not good for either club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just by the numbers, it looks like Loudoun isn't doing too well in any of the age groups. Not a statement on Loudoun, which is a good club, just the numbers. Of course, individual player development has absolutely nothing to do with game scores and results, but it's quite amusing to see all the chasing for the teams that win the most games!

In regards to Loudoun you must take into consideration the number of players that left for FCV, and ECNL/Loudoun in the past. I don’t think Loudoun can be judged on their U15/U14 and older age groups but how their 06 and younger will fair. Loudoun lost their best 04’s and older years ago.

McLean’s 06’s demonstrates a possible fall off.

But, both BRYC and McLean were able to keep their older rosters in tact and maintain success but with Arlington having DA and of course Spirit in their general back yard will both clubs be able to retain talent going forward?

VDA pulls from 2 strong clubs and their younger age groups are bearing the fruits of the affiliations already.

Loudoun's 06 team earned half the points that VDA's 06 team did so even in the youngest age group Loudoun is not doing great. I think VDA is much better positioned going forward.

[Anonymous]

Good luck to VDA keeping 05-06 players

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ECNL helps with expenses to finals but not playoffs just like DA. I think the point being made is good DA clubs have to travel quite some distance to get a competitive game where ECNL clubs in Maryland and VA can get competition every weekend. That's why the DA is allowing for cross-conference scheduling. The clubs that could not go back to ECNL were worried about the level of play top to bottom. FCV playing Spirit VA 4 times is not good for either club.

You don’t play MD teams because the HS seasons are opposite. Please stop with the BS argument that ECNL travels less.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just by the numbers, it looks like Loudoun isn't doing too well in any of the age groups. Not a statement on Loudoun, which is a good club, just the numbers. Of course, individual player development has absolutely nothing to do with game scores and results, but it's quite amusing to see all the chasing for the teams that win the most games!

In regards to Loudoun you must take into consideration the number of players that left for FCV, and ECNL/Loudoun in the past. I don’t think Loudoun can be judged on their U15/U14 and older age groups but how their 06 and younger will fair. Loudoun lost their best 04’s and older years ago.

McLean’s 06’s demonstrates a possible fall off.

But, both BRYC and McLean were able to keep their older rosters in tact and maintain success but with Arlington having DA and of course Spirit in their general back yard will both clubs be able to retain talent going forward?

VDA pulls from 2 strong clubs and their younger age groups are bearing the fruits of the affiliations already.

VDA 06 success shows that they were able to recruit/retain young talent in ECNL. Would not be surprised if they lose some of their best players to other teams at older ages.

McLean 05 is doing well despite replacing half of team from last year who left with new players from outside of club.

[Anonymous]

VDA is going to lose their best 05/06 players to teams they are beating from clubs on the decline? PWSI/VSA kids are going to leave their home clubs to go play somewhere else in the same league?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:VDA is going to lose their best 05/06 players to teams they are beating from clubs on the decline? PWSI/VSA kids are going to leave their home clubs to go play somewhere else in the same league?

I thought logistically, they are in kind of a unique market. Not like McLean, FCV or Loudoun, which are all pretty close relatively.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VDA is going to lose their best 05/06 players to teams they are beating from clubs on the decline? PWSI/VSA kids are going to leave their home clubs to go play somewhere else in the same league?

I thought logistically, they are in kind of a unique market. Not like McLean, FCV or Loudoun, which are all pretty close relatively.

You can also add Washington Spirit and Arlington to this group.

[Anonymous]

They also do the best job at developing players at the younger ages and have been feeding those clubs for years. It looks like things will be different now. They are also able to pull from areas south of Woodbridge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They also do the best job at developing players at the younger ages and have been feeding those clubs for years. It looks like things will be different now. They are also able to pull from areas south of Woodbridge.

So does that mean that VDA is in a unique area logistically, or are you saying they are in the same realm as several other clubs?

[Anonymous]

I think the PP was suggesting that VDA is in unique area logistically. Loudoun and FCV are right next to each other. Arlington, Mclean and Wash Spirit are very close geographically too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the PP was suggesting that VDA is in unique area logistically. Loudoun and FCV are right next to each other. Arlington, Mclean and Wash Spirit are very close geographically too.

People seem to be ok with driving around for what they feel is a good fit. I know families who drive an hour back and forth to practices for environments they feel are a good fit. There may be a small advantage in their location, but it’s not North Baltimore.

[Anonymous]

Their advantage is their base club, staff, and infrastructure.