What is Pomona looking for?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just put down you are black. Race is self reported. No one can deny your self expression. She will get in

You must be so ashamed of belonging to a race that enslaved many fellow human beings for generations and prospered on their blood, sweat, and toil. I pity you.

Not defending the PP, but you really need to study World History. There is no one race that enslaved fellow human beings and prospered on their blood, sweat and tears. All races have done this in various times and places, more often than not throughout human history.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just put down you are black. Race is self reported. No one can deny your self expression. She will get in

You must be so ashamed of belonging to a race that enslaved many fellow human beings for generations and prospered on their blood, sweat, and toil. I pity you.

Not defending the PP, but you really need to study World History. There is no one race that enslaved fellow human beings and prospered on their blood, sweat and tears. All races have done this in various times and places, more often than not throughout human history.

And if you look at the U.S. history alone, slavery and jim crow laws were enforced in the south by the state and local laws. Northern states didn't allow this. Bigger government is not the solution. Bigger government is not our friend.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just put down you are black. Race is self reported. No one can deny your self expression. She will get in

You must be so ashamed of belonging to a race that enslaved many fellow human beings for generations and prospered on their blood, sweat, and toil. I pity you.

A) Many blacks are not descendants of slaves
B) The AAs themselves engaged in the slave trade
C) The Europeans engaged in the slave trade
D) My family did not engage in the slave trade
E) When is enough enough? Now legacy URMs at Stanford get in simply because of the color of their skin and because Stanford can check off the legacy box, the URM box and the "development case" box.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just put down you are black. Race is self reported. No one can deny your self expression. She will get in

I know you are being sarcastic, but it's true. My D's HS had a white girl who openly stated she's putting down as American Indian. She got into 5 ivies plus MIT. Official name for this is, Pocahontas effect. https://www.cnn.com/2015/04/07/living/feat-mindy-kaling-brother-affirmative-action/index.html

You and the two posts prior are unhelpful bitter racists.

You're also a liar, since you need a tribal registration for Native American to be considered.

In addition, the article you link, which I doubt you read, points out he wasn't very successful with that method.

What tribal registration has Elizabeth Warren produced?

You need to stop with your name calling. That's always a desperation sign.

You need to answer the challenge, liar. You don't. That's the ULTIMATE desperation sign.

[Anonymous]

I have heard Pomona kids look down on kids from the other Claremont colleges. Is that true? For a girl who is strong in STEM, would she have the best chance of admission at Harvey Mudd?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just put down you are black. Race is self reported. No one can deny your self expression. She will get in

I know you are being sarcastic, but it's true. My D's HS had a white girl who openly stated she's putting down as American Indian. She got into 5 ivies plus MIT. Official name for this is, Pocahontas effect. https://www.cnn.com/2015/04/07/living/feat-mindy-kaling-brother-affirmative-action/index.html

You and the two posts prior are unhelpful bitter racists.

You're also a liar, since you need a tribal registration for Native American to be considered.

In addition, the article you link, which I doubt you read, points out he wasn't very successful with that method.

What tribal registration has Elizabeth Warren produced?

You need to stop with your name calling. That's always a desperation sign.

You need to answer the challenge, liar. You don't. That's the ULTIMATE desperation sign.

Still name calling. Only because you are a liberal. In your world, everyone not liberal is a racist and a liar.

And you are hyperventilating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have heard Pomona kids look down on kids from the other Claremont colleges. Is that true? For a girl who is strong in STEM, would she have the best chance of admission at Harvey Mudd?

No, it’s not. My son had many friends from the other schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have heard Pomona kids look down on kids from the other Claremont colleges. Is that true? For a girl who is strong in STEM, would she have the best chance of admission at Harvey Mudd?

My data is like 15 years old, but yes, as an attendee of one of the other colleges, I found the Pomona kids to be arrogant pricks who looked down on the rest of us. I'd be shocked if that has changed.

Does she want to do STEM career-wise? Can she stand other STEM-types? If so, definitely Mudd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have heard Pomona kids look down on kids from the other Claremont colleges. Is that true? For a girl who is strong in STEM, would she have the best chance of admission at Harvey Mudd?

I have a ton of experience with students from across the Claremont Colleges since I've gone to recruit at their colleges and have several Pomona friends as a QuestBridge scholar (Pomona is a major partner school). This has not been my experience whatsoever. In fact, I've found Pomona to have some of the kindest and most friendly people I've seen among any of the consortium or partner colleges.

Pomona is the least likely to utilize the consortium since they have the largest campus, endowment, and depth of offerings while being tucked away at the southern most corner of the colleges. Students from the other colleges see less use of the consortium as a sign that Pomona is "elitist" or "looks down on them", but really, it's just a factor of convenience. When asking their students to describe the other colleges, I've only heard great sentiments and a shared love for the other colleges- never ever anything like "Pomona is the highest ranked of the group" or even anything more implicit in focusing on the bigger name LACs of the consortium- all are talked about. Another big factor is that Pomona is much more socioeconomically diverse and has a higher chunk of first gen students than any of the 5Cs or most LACs in general, so it's not the typical "prep"/old-money vibe you often see at LACs (especially neighboring Claremont McKenna). I actually looked it up based on government data and Pomona has 69% of students with a household income below 75K and 22% above 110K, compared to 33%/52% at Scripps, 43%/45% at Claremont McKenna, 45%/36% at Pitzer, and 35%/46% at Harvey Mudd. As a previously low-income student, I definitely felt I would fit in best among Pomona students entering college.

Mudd and Pomona are the go-to STEM schools of the colleges. Mudd is better suited for someone who is single mindedly passionate about STEM and especially focused in CS/engineering. Pomona is better for someone who has many interests and is considering less traditional STEM disciplines or more interdisciplinary passions, like Science/Technology/Society, geology, or neuroscience- which Mudd doesn't offer. There is a big difference in the student body at these two schools and an overnight at both should help your daughter know what she likes. Mudd is an easier school to get into for female STEM majors while Pomona is an easier school to get into for math STEM majors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just put down you are black. Race is self reported. No one can deny your self expression. She will get in

I know you are being sarcastic, but it's true. My D's HS had a white girl who openly stated she's putting down as American Indian. She got into 5 ivies plus MIT. Official name for this is, Pocahontas effect. https://www.cnn.com/2015/04/07/living/feat-mindy-kaling-brother-affirmative-action/index.html

You and the two posts prior are unhelpful bitter racists.

You're also a liar, since you need a tribal registration for Native American to be considered.

In addition, the article you link, which I doubt you read, points out he wasn't very successful with that method.

What tribal registration has Elizabeth Warren produced?

You need to stop with your name calling. That's always a desperation sign.

You need to answer the challenge, liar. You don't. That's the ULTIMATE desperation sign.

Still name calling. Only because you are a liberal. In your world, everyone not liberal is a racist and a liar.

And you are hyperventilating.

No, in my world, people that tell lies are liars. Like you. If you show me how what you posted wasn't a lie I will a apologize. But we all know you posted lies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I actually looked it up based on government data and Pomona has 69% of students with a household income below 75K and 22% above 110K, compared to 33%/52% at Scripps, 43%/45% at Claremont McKenna, 45%/36% at Pitzer, and 35%/46% at Harvey Mudd. As a previously low-income student, I definitely felt I would fit in best among Pomona students entering college.

69% of students at Pomona come from families with HI below 75k? Wow. The figures for all the colleges, not just Pomona, are impressive. The eastern LACs will have very different ratios.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: I actually looked it up based on government data and Pomona has 69% of students with a household income below 75K and 22% above 110K, compared to 33%/52% at Scripps, 43%/45% at Claremont McKenna, 45%/36% at Pitzer, and 35%/46% at Harvey Mudd. As a previously low-income student, I definitely felt I would fit in best among Pomona students entering college.

69% of students at Pomona come from families with HI below 75k? Wow. The figures for all the colleges, not just Pomona, are impressive. The eastern LACs will have very different ratios.

So...would 100% be even more impressive? At some point it will no longer be economically diverse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: I actually looked it up based on government data and Pomona has 69% of students with a household income below 75K and 22% above 110K, compared to 33%/52% at Scripps, 43%/45% at Claremont McKenna, 45%/36% at Pitzer, and 35%/46% at Harvey Mudd. As a previously low-income student, I definitely felt I would fit in best among Pomona students entering college.

69% of students at Pomona come from families with HI below 75k? Wow. The figures for all the colleges, not just Pomona, are impressive. The eastern LACs will have very different ratios.

I have a difficult time believing that number! Do you have a link?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I actually looked it up based on government data and Pomona has 69% of students with a household income below 75K and 22% above 110K, compared to 33%/52% at Scripps, 43%/45% at Claremont McKenna, 45%/36% at Pitzer, and 35%/46% at Harvey Mudd. As a previously low-income student, I definitely felt I would fit in best among Pomona students entering college.

69% of students at Pomona come from families with HI below 75k? Wow. The figures for all the colleges, not just Pomona, are impressive. The eastern LACs will have very different ratios.

I have a difficult time believing that number! Do you have a link?

If you go to IPEDs (https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/datacenter), click on an institution, and search "Reported Data", on the Student Financial Aid & Net Prices component you can see this data.

It's kind of a pain to find, but Niche already includes it in their data for different schools, if you want to see it quickly:

https://www.niche.com/colleges/pomona-college/students/
https://www.niche.com/colleges/pitzer-college/students/
https://www.niche.com/colleges/scripps-college/students/
https://www.niche.com/colleges/claremont-mckenna-college/students/
https://www.niche.com/colleges/harvey-mudd-college/students/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just put down you are black. Race is self reported. No one can deny your self expression. She will get in

I know you are being sarcastic, but it's true. My D's HS had a white girl who openly stated she's putting down as American Indian. She got into 5 ivies plus MIT. Official name for this is, Pocahontas effect. https://www.cnn.com/2015/04/07/living/feat-mindy-kaling-brother-affirmative-action/index.html

You and the two posts prior are unhelpful bitter racists.

You're also a liar, since you need a tribal registration for Native American to be considered.

In addition, the article you link, which I doubt you read, points out he wasn't very successful with that method.

What tribal registration has Elizabeth Warren produced?

You need to stop with your name calling. That's always a desperation sign.

You need to answer the challenge, liar. You don't. That's the ULTIMATE desperation sign.

Still name calling. Only because you are a liberal. In your world, everyone not liberal is a racist and a liar.

And you are hyperventilating.

No, in my world, people that tell lies are liars. Like you. If you show me how what you posted wasn't a lie I will a apologize. But we all know you posted lies.

Hundreds of thousands of men and women wake up in the morning counting blessings they are not married to a nutcase like you. Bye bye