Glennon Doyle

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She went to school here-does anyone remember her?

She and my sister were in the same sorority at JMU!

DH went to college with her. She was a run of the mill party girl and DH always said that her supposed alcoholism was suspect. Kind of an after the fact characterization.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Her utter lack of boundaries and disregard for those of her children are staggering. Ugh.

This was my take away from Love Warrior, too, which was my first exposure to her. I was astounded at the level of detail she relayed about her marital issues. I also felt she had some key omissions when it came to her own life, but her husband’s life was fair game. For example, I very strongly suspect she was sexually abused as a child/tween.

I don’t want to buy her book. What was the marital issue? I remember seeing it alluded to on the blog.

I am the PP. So, it has been ages since I've read the book. But, basically, her husband was a sex addict of some sort (porn and other women, I think), and she basically put every level of detail on blast in the book. I thought it was a bit much given that they were married and have three kids together. It also was a bit rich, too, considering she is/was pretty effed up herself. She was a blackout alcoholic and struggled with bulimia her whole life. Imagine if the roles were reversed? If a husband wrote a book spilling all the deets about how the mother of his children is an alcohol-addicted bulimic, the husband would be skewered by the public, not praised.

I have a difficult time with people who do this kind of over-the-top, public oversharing. These people always act like they're being all altruistic, and hide behind the whole "I'm just being authentic" / "I'm being my true self" / "I'm putting this out there so I can help other people" crap. And that's rarely true. They're doing it for themselves, and for attention - and in some cases, like Glennon, for money.

I also thought she was clearly playing coy about her own issues. She starts out the book going on an on about all these messed up messages she got as a child (stuff like "I realized that I was there to be pleasing to others" / "my job was to be pretty"). She claims her parents gave her a great childhood, but she still ended up bulimic at the age of 8 or 10 or something. I'm my opinion, she's either lying about the messages she internalized as a child (which is to say, perhaps she is just making the stuff up after the fact), or she has some pretty dramatic omissions in the book (abuse of some sort - because how in the hell would a five year old kid come up with this stuff). At one point, perhaps in an interview or something, I don't recall, she said something like readers need to respect that some parts of her story aren't told... So, yeah.

Thanks! I thought he was gay. That clears it up for me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Her utter lack of boundaries and disregard for those of her children are staggering. Ugh.

This was my take away from Love Warrior, too, which was my first exposure to her. I was astounded at the level of detail she relayed about her marital issues. I also felt she had some key omissions when it came to her own life, but her husband’s life was fair game. For example, I very strongly suspect she was sexually abused as a child/tween.

I don’t want to buy her book. What was the marital issue? I remember seeing it alluded to on the blog.

I am the PP. So, it has been ages since I've read the book. But, basically, her husband was a sex addict of some sort (porn and other women, I think), and she basically put every level of detail on blast in the book. I thought it was a bit much given that they were married and have three kids together. It also was a bit rich, too, considering she is/was pretty effed up herself. She was a blackout alcoholic and struggled with bulimia her whole life. Imagine if the roles were reversed? If a husband wrote a book spilling all the deets about how the mother of his children is an alcohol-addicted bulimic, the husband would be skewered by the public, not praised.

I have a difficult time with people who do this kind of over-the-top, public oversharing. These people always act like they're being all altruistic, and hide behind the whole "I'm just being authentic" / "I'm being my true self" / "I'm putting this out there so I can help other people" crap. And that's rarely true. They're doing it for themselves, and for attention - and in some cases, like Glennon, for money.

I also thought she was clearly playing coy about her own issues. She starts out the book going on an on about all these messed up messages she got as a child (stuff like "I realized that I was there to be pleasing to others" / "my job was to be pretty"). She claims her parents gave her a great childhood, but she still ended up bulimic at the age of 8 or 10 or something. I'm my opinion, she's either lying about the messages she internalized as a child (which is to say, perhaps she is just making the stuff up after the fact), or she has some pretty dramatic omissions in the book (abuse of some sort - because how in the hell would a five year old kid come up with this stuff). At one point, perhaps in an interview or something, I don't recall, she said something like readers need to respect that some parts of her story aren't told... So, yeah.

Thanks! I thought he was gay. That clears it up for me.

She is now married to a woman, maybe that is what you were thinking about.

[Anonymous]

Weird coincidence that Glennon and Elizabeth Gilbert both left their husbands for women. I wonder if Glennon was inspired by Gilbert’s courage?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Weird coincidence that Glennon and Elizabeth Gilbert both left their husbands for women. I wonder if Glennon was inspired by Gilbert’s courage?

Plenty of people come out later in life, or realize they are bisexual and choose the different gender after a divorce. These two are more united by oversharing and poor boundaries than anything else.

9:05 from the previous page, I'm the PP who originally posted about her utter lack of boundaries, and your post hit the nail on the head. I despise attention-seeking under the guise of authenticity. You can be authentic and not, you know, whore your children and spouse on the internet/books. It's not that hard. I'm also staggered by the number of otherwise intelligent, thoughtful, emotionally mature women I know who admire Glennon. Like, really? You don't see right through her nonsense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird coincidence that Glennon and Elizabeth Gilbert both left their husbands for women. I wonder if Glennon was inspired by Gilbert’s courage?

Plenty of people come out later in life, or realize they are bisexual and choose the different gender after a divorce. These two are more united by oversharing and poor boundaries than anything else.

9:05 from the previous page, I'm the PP who originally posted about her utter lack of boundaries, and your post hit the nail on the head. I despise attention-seeking under the guise of authenticity. You can be authentic and not, you know, whore your children and spouse on the internet/books. It's not that hard. [B] I'm also staggered by the number of otherwise intelligent, thoughtful, emotionally mature women I know who admire Glennon. Like, really? You don't see right through her nonsense?[B]

Glennon is all about Glennon ...

[Anonymous]

What I find irritating and yes nauseating is that on her blog and facebook she quotes herself. She memorializes her wonderfully profound words. Ick. Just really ick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I find irritating and yes nauseating is that on her blog and facebook she quotes herself. She memorializes her wonderfully profound words. Ick. Just really ick.

Hahahha. I’ve seen her do that too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I find irritating and yes nauseating is that on her blog and facebook she quotes herself. She memorializes her wonderfully profound words. Ick. Just really ick.

Yeah, this is over the top to me too. She finds herself incredibly prophetic. I think she has a raging ego. However, I think her work is incredible, just the force with which she has mobilized so many people for legitimately good causes, I feel like I can separate the bad from the good here, and there are both in my opinion.

I find the marriage fascinating.

[Anonymous]

Here's her latest FB post.

"I led a few town hall style family meetings in Falls Church, Virginia this week.
A mother stood and said: Glennon, how do we talk to our children about what’s going on at the border? How do we tell our kids that babies are being stripped from their mothers’ arms?

And I said: I can tell you what I tell my kids. You know the story about what Mister Rogers’ mother told him? She said, “When scary things happen: look for the helpers. There will always be helpers.” I tell my kids that story. And then I take it further. I tell them that it’s not enough to look for the helpers. We must BECOME THE HELPERS.

I tell my kids the truth about what’s going on at the border. I tell them the truth about everything:
I tell them the truth is that evil is real and powerful, but that Love is realer, and more powerful.
I tell them that there will always be those who use people as pawns for power. And there will always be helpers that stand up, show up and say: NO. People over power. People over politics. People over patriotism. People First.

And I tell them that as for our family: WE WILL BE THE HELPERS. As for us and our house: We will not stand for terrified babies being torn from their mothers’ arms. As for us and our house: We understand that immigration is complicated and still we say: NOT THIS.

As for us and our house: We will not surrender to despair. We will not wallow in heartbreak or anger without taking action. Heartbreak without action might as well be apathy.

No. As for us and our house we will not just feel sad -- we will feel and then ACT. And this is how our personal pain becomes HELP – BECOMES LOVE IN ACTION. This is how heartbreak becomes a revolution of love and change.

In honor of the Fathers in my life: I’ve given again to @Together Rising's efforts to reunify terrified babies with their fathers. I’ve done it in the name of Craig, of Bubba, of Abby’s father, of Sister’s Johnny.

I don’t know how long this nightmare will last: But I know we’ll outlast it.

We’ll make sure Love Wins or we’ll die trying.

I’ll keep asking shamelessly for help because it’s not for me, it’s for them.

See our previous updates (below) for how carefully we are vetting every organization to whom we give and how transparently we are updating you on our every move. As always, every penny we receive will go to organizations across this nation showing up in detainment centers – comforting, advocating for, and reuniting families.

There is no such thing as other people’s children.

Show up today in honor of the fathers in your life and then sit down tonight and tell your family WHO YOU ARE. That as for you and your house: YOU ARE THE HELPERS. Here is where to show up (all gifts are tax-deductible): https://app.mobilecause.com/f/tyb/n

Love ,
G & Together Rising"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's her latest FB post.

"I led a few town hall style family meetings in Falls Church, Virginia this week.
A mother stood and said: Glennon, how do we talk to our children about what’s going on at the border? How do we tell our kids that babies are being stripped from their mothers’ arms?

And I said: I can tell you what I tell my kids. You know the story about what Mister Rogers’ mother told him? She said, “When scary things happen: look for the helpers. There will always be helpers.” I tell my kids that story. And then I take it further. I tell them that it’s not enough to look for the helpers. We must BECOME THE HELPERS.

I tell my kids the truth about what’s going on at the border. I tell them the truth about everything:
I tell them the truth is that evil is real and powerful, but that Love is realer, and more powerful.
I tell them that there will always be those who use people as pawns for power. And there will always be helpers that stand up, show up and say: NO. People over power. People over politics. People over patriotism. People First.

And I tell them that as for our family: WE WILL BE THE HELPERS. As for us and our house: We will not stand for terrified babies being torn from their mothers’ arms. As for us and our house: We understand that immigration is complicated and still we say: NOT THIS.

As for us and our house: We will not surrender to despair. We will not wallow in heartbreak or anger without taking action. Heartbreak without action might as well be apathy.

No. As for us and our house we will not just feel sad -- we will feel and then ACT. And this is how our personal pain becomes HELP – BECOMES LOVE IN ACTION. This is how heartbreak becomes a revolution of love and change.

In honor of the Fathers in my life: I’ve given again to @Together Rising's efforts to reunify terrified babies with their fathers. I’ve done it in the name of Craig, of Bubba, of Abby’s father, of Sister’s Johnny.

I don’t know how long this nightmare will last: But I know we’ll outlast it.

We’ll make sure Love Wins or we’ll die trying.

I’ll keep asking shamelessly for help because it’s not for me, it’s for them.

See our previous updates (below) for how carefully we are vetting every organization to whom we give and how transparently we are updating you on our every move. As always, every penny we receive will go to organizations across this nation showing up in detainment centers – comforting, advocating for, and reuniting families.

There is no such thing as other people’s children.

Show up today in honor of the fathers in your life and then sit down tonight and tell your family WHO YOU ARE. That as for you and your house: YOU ARE THE HELPERS. Here is where to show up (all gifts are tax-deductible): https://app.mobilecause.com/f/tyb/n

Love ,
G & Together Rising"

Dramatic much? How do people fall for this rhetoric??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's her latest FB post.

"I led a few town hall style family meetings in Falls Church, Virginia this week.
A mother stood and said: Glennon, how do we talk to our children about what’s going on at the border? How do we tell our kids that babies are being stripped from their mothers’ arms?

And I said: I can tell you what I tell my kids. You know the story about what Mister Rogers’ mother told him? She said, “When scary things happen: look for the helpers. There will always be helpers.” I tell my kids that story. And then I take it further. I tell them that it’s not enough to look for the helpers. We must BECOME THE HELPERS.

I tell my kids the truth about what’s going on at the border. I tell them the truth about everything:
I tell them the truth is that evil is real and powerful, but that Love is realer, and more powerful.
I tell them that there will always be those who use people as pawns for power. And there will always be helpers that stand up, show up and say: NO. People over power. People over politics. People over patriotism. People First.

And I tell them that as for our family: WE WILL BE THE HELPERS. As for us and our house: We will not stand for terrified babies being torn from their mothers’ arms. As for us and our house: We understand that immigration is complicated and still we say: NOT THIS.

As for us and our house: We will not surrender to despair. We will not wallow in heartbreak or anger without taking action. Heartbreak without action might as well be apathy.

No. As for us and our house we will not just feel sad -- we will feel and then ACT. And this is how our personal pain becomes HELP – BECOMES LOVE IN ACTION. This is how heartbreak becomes a revolution of love and change.

In honor of the Fathers in my life: I’ve given again to @Together Rising's efforts to reunify terrified babies with their fathers. I’ve done it in the name of Craig, of Bubba, of Abby’s father, of Sister’s Johnny.

I don’t know how long this nightmare will last: But I know we’ll outlast it.

We’ll make sure Love Wins or we’ll die trying.

I’ll keep asking shamelessly for help because it’s not for me, it’s for them.

See our previous updates (below) for how carefully we are vetting every organization to whom we give and how transparently we are updating you on our every move. As always, every penny we receive will go to organizations across this nation showing up in detainment centers – comforting, advocating for, and reuniting families.

There is no such thing as other people’s children.

Show up today in honor of the fathers in your life and then sit down tonight and tell your family WHO YOU ARE. That as for you and your house: YOU ARE THE HELPERS. Here is where to show up (all gifts are tax-deductible): https://app.mobilecause.com/f/tyb/n

Love ,
G & Together Rising"

Dramatic much? How do people fall for this rhetoric??

Exactly. Why on earth does anyone give a f*ck about this woman's opinion? Good lord.

[Anonymous]

^^Also, this "people first" "love wins" garbage is pretty hard to swallow given how she's put her children's and husband's privacy waaaay down the list. Who knows, maybe her ex-husband is fine with it, but for their kids? To have this information all over the way it is? Shameful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^Also, this "people first" "love wins" garbage is pretty hard to swallow given how she's put her children's and husband's privacy waaaay down the list. Who knows, maybe her ex-husband is fine with it, but for their kids? To have this information all over the way it is? Shameful.

I think the only reason her ex may be fine with it is he got a pay off. Pretty sure I recall Glennon blogging about her buying him his house and I assume/hope he gets a lot of much deserved alimony after she threw him under the bus so many times and portrayed herself only as a victim and/or saint.

My respect for Oprah really decreased once Oprah become buddies with Glennon. I get it. Oprah is trying to stay relevant and was likely advised to kiss up to bloggers with big followings, but part of me wonders if even Oprah regrets aligning with someone like this. Yes, to Glennon's credit she raises a ton of money for chairy and I applaud that, but the lies, contradictions and boundary issues are highly concerning.

[Anonymous]

I read an article yesterday that had some other writer/blogger saying that glennon is the "next gloria steinem" WHA?